Vietnam Airlines (info please)

[Dream Land]

Same monthly income, I believe the only differences are in the first few weeks, initial hotel stay, pay during training.

[varigflier]

Which one pays for hotel and training?

[Dream Land]

Please check Rishworth and Parc websites, this stuff changes by the minute, they are very short of crews.

[jumpdrive]

i dont know why always such a mistery to give details of something
where piltos here comon!!!! geez!
help each other
thats why these damn brokers & airlines are doing what they want with us
we never stick together

here's rishworth package

ATR
$7,927

AIRBUS 320
$10,600

both are 6 weeks ON 2 weeks OFF
they will only pay the sim for screening
you will have to pay for evry' thing else, pay back its on 1st salary
if you are not on a vietnam airlines destination
they pay 50% of the tkt to get to one to go for the sim

there is no transport provided for work
only when outside base for overnite

a good appartment is $1,000
a good house $,1500

i dont know PARC's package .........if you have it, post it.......
its not on theyre current job list

happy ldg's

[varigflier]

Jumpdrive,

I agree with you........

Anyways, are these numbers for captain or F/O position? Do you know anything about the upgrade possibilities for F/Os? I appreciate the info.

[jumpdrive]

this is for capt.
have no idea for f/o, sorry

hopefully someone else will pop out & help U with that info

[Dream Land]

i dont know why always such a mistery to give details of something

The mystery is this, the contracts are constantly changing, pilots hired one year after me are on a different contract, people hired three years after me are on another contract, it's a very dynamic situation, getting on the boards and passing out outdated information serves no purpose- especially when and individual can simply make a couple keystrokes and get the information first hand, my intention is not to tell you which contract is better, I recommend that anyone interested in working here, do your homework, there's only two contractors so it's not difficult. I will do my best to answer any other questions based on my perspective, my recommendation is you correspond with several pilots.

Cheers, D.L.

[jumpdrive]

ok
it seems that no one wants to help the other
'cause its a few keystrokes, or not his job

ill have parc's package maybe tomorrow

c ya

[Metro man]

F/O Rishworth

Total US$7800 month net of Vietnamese taxes. Made up of :
Base $5100
Accomodation $1500
Per Diem $1200

Upgrades now possible.
Hope this helps

[varigflier]

So does anybody know how the upgrade works?

[LindbergB767]

upgrade are a nice carrot
So far 4 guys have been upgraded since 3 years
But it is not free
On 777 it was $26000 Us without salary while on the ground school and Sim plus a bank garrantee of$30000 The 26000 was deducted every month for about 18 months
Airbus 320??? but I think similar

[Dream Land]

upgrade

Please don't treat this as the gospel truth, the last upgrade deal was something like this:

1. The individual obtains a training bond for three years for $30K.

2. Training pay during training.

3. After training is completed, you receive captain pay less payments each month for three years, total 24K.

4. Due to abuse by other pilots, the bond stays at the 30K level the entire time.

[olepilot]

parc
10600usd for capts
in my opinion parc pay better for the training time and also better medical
also some other (minor) diffs that work in favor for parc.
but take this, except 10600, for what it is:
I'm parc and this is my personal views
rumour has it that they will upgrade again in the 2nd quarter this year and pay is going up

[jumpdrive]

A320 f/o with ....................parc

$6,300 + $1,500 housing

one more thing
they do give the airline ticket @ start & end of contract
rishworth DOES NOT

same work pattern 6x2
same ID tickets benefits
Parc provides Personal Accident / Emergency Insurance
also BUPA Gold.
TotalTemporary Disablement & Loss of Licence
rishworth NO sir

[Deske1]

VN direct hire?

There are direct-entry pilot vacancies on the website of VN for Capt and F/Os for B777,A320,A330 and ATR.

www.vietnamairlines.com

Is anyone familiar with the T and Cs?

[jumpdrive]

any one has an idea ; of how much the agencies are getting on our behalf
basicaly by doing nothing!

$1,000
$1,500

any one has a clue?

[varigflier]

upgrades and housing

So how does one get picked for the upgrade? Or is it a matter of just getting the bank garantee?
Also for housing, the prices listed above, is it for furnished or unfurnished apartment and houses? Is it easy to find a roommate?

[Lost in Saigon]

Most homes are furnished and it is very easy to find roommates. You are probably better off to stay in a "Mini Hotel" ($400-500 per month) until you can figure out where you want to live.

Some like staying near the airport. Others like downtown or even farther out.

[cucch69]

6 and 2

I am a Fractional pilot in the U.S. toying with the idea of getting some Airbus time and going back to SE Asia.

I dont know much about these contracts, but I am curious how you work 6 weeks in a row...

If anyone could give me an idea about how the schedule works I would greatly appreciate it.

good luck, Thanks

[olepilot]

During the 6 weeks you work acc. the FOM which governs days off, max duty period time, flight hours. etc.