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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 06:36
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Medical health requirements for Viet nam

What is the medical requirements.
Is it crazy like Japanese? Does anyone have documented information that explains the pass/fail requirements? I appreciate your reply.
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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 06:46
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the medical here its quite simple & quick
top's on your 1st time it'll take you 2 hours
& thats 'cause you don't have a guide to take to you each room
if you happen to go alone that day
if not ask the any other expat that you might bump into
all is in 1 building except the xRay guy
who's on a different building (really old & crappy) a minute walk

but in th end is all very straight fwd
blood & urine sample 1st
eyes, ears, ecogram, brain stuff, cardio, xray
and some others that dont come to me now
but nothing stressful like chine or japan...............no way jose!

you'll have the results within 2 days

company does the rest for you
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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 19:13
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Angel Vietnam Airlines

hey guys,i don't know why some guys like to bitch,we are pilots....that means flying.not many airlines will pay a good salary and give you 6/2 or 4/4 or 5/3.
flying 70hrs a month is fair,for us xpat pilots we mostly fly the local routes.
i see that alot of guys getting 2 days off...so for the guys who are not happy and thing that you want to leave..pls go and stop bitching .
all airlines have their good and the bad,even the 5 star airlines.
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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 19:38
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right ON man
bunch of whiners
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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 23:17
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hey anyone know how long to the left seat on the 777
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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 23:19
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think any contract pilot has ever done a right seat to left seat upgrade on the B777 at Vietnam Airlines.

So I would say the answer is a very long time.
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Old 23rd Jun 2008, 00:21
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777 expat seat change

It has not happened, but almost all the 777 expat F/Os who want upgrade are on A320 command upgrade courses at the moment.
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Old 23rd Jun 2008, 00:32
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So how long before they let you upgrade?
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Old 23rd Jun 2008, 00:38
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No upgrades on the 777. and for those wanting upgrade on the 320, there are fos alread here ready, waiting, and more than capable so expect to stand in line for around a year. You can't stroll in and go to the front of the queue.

Don't shoot the messenger. What i've told you about the rostering is absolutely true. I've been here over 4 years. I returned from leave 5 weeks ago and have had exactly 5 days off. I'll show anyone my roster if they want. I wouldn't call that whining. When i was thinking of coming here some people here told me a lot of bs too. Don't be fooled.

All i'm saying is that if you are jumping ship from a mainline or legacy carrier you need to do the math on the 6/2 option. Most of my mates in europe average 10 days off a month on short haul ops, plus 36 days leave a year. Thats 156 days off a year. Guys it's more days off in total than you get here. Think about what you do on your days off during the month at home if you're in a first world country, coz most of your normal activities you can't do in HCMC. You can't even ride a bike around. sitting in a pub drinking cheap beer wears thin after a while. The nearset decent watersport beach is 4 hours drive away. There is a small rock climbing wall which is pretty neat. And golf is the same price as home if you play that.

If you're coming from the states, don't burn your bridges and try to keep your travel benefits. They've been talking about flying to the US since before i arrived. It hasn't happened yet and with current climate in the US i doubt they'll let it happen any time soon. We only have 1 american left here. The other 2 left and they didn't go home much when they were here. Too far and too expensive.

Jumpdrive, you haven't been here long have you. We all had a certain honeymoon period here too.
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Old 23rd Jun 2008, 23:26
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Well, I'm sure we all appreciate hearing both sides, but which is it? I mean, two days off a week and only one layover in Hanoi is vastly different than one (sort of) day off and 3 nights in Hanoi. I've talked with several pilots here in the US who are keen to go based on the first scenario but might think twice if it's the second.
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Ok. well i do know that we don't all get the same deal from rostering for reasons that i won't mention again. If people are getting 2 days off a week and only 1 overnight then I'd like to know why i'm getting shafted as do 2 or 3 other captains i know.I'll take a look next time i'm in work.

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Old 24th Jun 2008, 02:28
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ia1166,
thanks for the other look inside. It is absolutlely necessary to be told all sides of businness.

But show me the place where heaven meets earth - and I will go there.

Some people might be attracted by a good payscale (much much much more than I have here) or the promise to change to the left seat after a while (and this with a contract job!).
But having the job which gives you the maximum of benefits its rarely to find. I don't know. You always know better afterwards. But the question is: What do you leave behind...

So, please again, what are your weekly hours, 4 legs every day? Your monthly hours? I did not see any payscale for overtime. So they will wear you off then.
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Old 24th Jun 2008, 06:46
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we don't all get the same deal from rostering for reasons that i won't mention again by ia1166
Question: Have you ever given chocolate to the rostering department at Vietnam Airlines?

Anxiously awaiting your response.
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Old 24th Jun 2008, 07:40
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What is a typical working day like?

How long is a normal working day? What counts as a duty day? Is it from the first brief to the last block in time?

What about the turn time between each leg. Is there a lot of sitting around time twiddling your thumbs or is the aircraft turn quickly and the day fairly efficient?

I am just trying to get an idea of a typical day so any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance guys.
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Old 24th Jun 2008, 07:41
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he he right on man

i have indeed

& it has worked WONDERS for me

its like a holiday all year long for me

its like having my personal asistant

je je je je

by the way.............i gave belgium chocolate
ha ha ha ha ha

good one
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Old 24th Jun 2008, 08:05
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ok. this week of the 40 so expat captains, a total of 11 have more than 1 day off in the week. 1 guy has 3. only around half of these have 2 days together. almost everyone has time in hanoi. some 1 day, some 2 days and maybe 40% have a 3 day lay over in hanoi. I guess by looking over the lot most people are flying 14 to 20 sectors with a very few flying less.

Look this is just a snap of this week. It's not the hardest flying but it's exactly as i said guys. You get 7 days a month, so obviously you can get 2 together maximum twice in a month if you ask, and they will try to work you the 8 days before it so you pick up on the 60 hours off in 10 day rule. for my part i now have 4 days off before the end of the month but i had a 30 minute battle with rostering to get it and i had to get the CAAV involved. And that just gets me to my minimum 7 days this month.

Having said that what do you expect? 2 days a week off, good money, 2 weeks off every 6 weeks, we're short of pilots. Guys one of these statements isn't correct is it.

It's a good place all in all if you can take the rostering, but if you come, then know what it's like before you get here, otherwise you'll be unhappy. Pprune isn't a recruitment sitefor management, it's hopefully where the truth can be told pilot to pilot.

Oh and the post above highlights exactly what i was saying. I jst can't wait for more people like him to turn up.

And i see you have 2 nights in hanoi this week jump drive. and you're getting in at midnight tonight, back into saigon midnight tomorrow night, and working thursday night too. Some roster.

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Old 24th Jun 2008, 12:12
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3 Day layover in Hanoi in the hotel, when you are based in Saigon? That seems odd. I never saw that when I was there 2003-2006.

Just so there is no confusion, can you confirm that most of what has been said here applies to the A320/A321 rostering?

The B777 rostering is of course substantially different. I only mention this because there must be potential B777 pilots reading this as well.

When I flew the B767 at VNA the rostering was very good. I am curious how the the B777 is now.

I know the B777 often has double augment(2 CA, 2 FO) for the longer flights so you will never max out on flight hours because time in the bunk doesn't count.

Can someone post a typical B777 roster for us?
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Old 24th Jun 2008, 13:31
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ok here's one from this week for a mate of mine.
sgn dad sgn han
han cxr han hui han this is a long day
han rep han sgn arriving back in sgn around 2300

ok? 3 days. and actually he's the first captain i came to. i could go on.

there's one guy on the list whose line already starts in hanoi and he's there for 3 days so he most be there for 4 days or more.

Anyway, maybe the choclatiers have something. I just like to operate as per my contract, thank you.
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Again, please confirm that it is a 320/321 roster.

Is it possible that the 3 days in Hanoi is actually because he ended in Hanoi and was positioned back to Saigon? Then he is positioned back to Hanoi 3 days later to again start flying?

This happened to me once or twice on the B767. Occasionally I spent 48 hrs in Hanoi because they liked the extra "Standby"(reserve) coverage. But never 3 days.
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Old 24th Jun 2008, 16:05
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Anyway, maybe the choclatiers have something. I just like to operate as per my contract, thank you.
And for some reason you are avoiding a direct question, could it be that perhaps you are guilty of bringing chocolate to rostering, the same person winging at others for the same offense, so if you are guilty, get off your high horse you hypocrite, your dribble is getting old.

Apologies to all crews just looking for intelligent information about the operation.
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