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I have a BRILLIANT idea for you. Here it is!
You should think CAREFULLY before you open your mouth. It would do everyone here a HUGE favor!
Many students from Alpha aviation at SHJ have passed exams with either great help or by alpha ignoring their bad exam performance. Seriously if you are not going to be using the tool, which i must add that every aviation college in the world does, then why use it. U want to know more?
I sadly cannot proof this but lets hope that u believe me. I was quietly revising for my GCAA exams in one of the classrooms when all of a sudden I find 2 nervous students coming in for their pre-selection exams. I spoke to both and they both said that their maths was weak. I said it is k do not worry you will not find it that hard!
Anyways i was proved to be wrong. One of the staff (i am not mentioning his name) came into the room with the exams and when the students faced difficulties he would just help them to get the answers. He would not say that question 1 is 15 he would use an example and hope that the students would then get it right.
Now are all exams done like that? If so in the future when I have an accident I will say 'Sorry, captain but you were not there next to me to guide me how to fly well'
I am sorry but ALL exams in the pilot training should be done as professionally as possible. That means that you should remove all the cheating that happens. I as a student know that not all can be removed but atleast make an effort. People get help in their interview and pre-selection exams, GCAA exams and then they go for flying. I have been in alpha for 8 months or so and EVERYONE apart from 1 student that has gone for the exams has passed. Seriously is that good? It shows that there are NO standards. My friend went to Oxford in the UK for the mpl and failed. He said that there were 6 students in hit batch and NO ONE was offered a place. Seriously, alpha should not bother with the pre selection exams. It is just pointless. They should have a banner saying "Do you have 450k DHS to lose, If so Alpha Aviation is the place for you"
I have a BRILLIANT idea for you. Here it is!
You should think CAREFULLY before you open your mouth. It would do everyone here a HUGE favor!
Many students from Alpha aviation at SHJ have passed exams with either great help or by alpha ignoring their bad exam performance. Seriously if you are not going to be using the tool, which i must add that every aviation college in the world does, then why use it. U want to know more?
I sadly cannot proof this but lets hope that u believe me. I was quietly revising for my GCAA exams in one of the classrooms when all of a sudden I find 2 nervous students coming in for their pre-selection exams. I spoke to both and they both said that their maths was weak. I said it is k do not worry you will not find it that hard!
Anyways i was proved to be wrong. One of the staff (i am not mentioning his name) came into the room with the exams and when the students faced difficulties he would just help them to get the answers. He would not say that question 1 is 15 he would use an example and hope that the students would then get it right.
Now are all exams done like that? If so in the future when I have an accident I will say 'Sorry, captain but you were not there next to me to guide me how to fly well'
I am sorry but ALL exams in the pilot training should be done as professionally as possible. That means that you should remove all the cheating that happens. I as a student know that not all can be removed but atleast make an effort. People get help in their interview and pre-selection exams, GCAA exams and then they go for flying. I have been in alpha for 8 months or so and EVERYONE apart from 1 student that has gone for the exams has passed. Seriously is that good? It shows that there are NO standards. My friend went to Oxford in the UK for the mpl and failed. He said that there were 6 students in hit batch and NO ONE was offered a place. Seriously, alpha should not bother with the pre selection exams. It is just pointless. They should have a banner saying "Do you have 450k DHS to lose, If so Alpha Aviation is the place for you"
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I agree with everyword that honest pilot has written. There is no point
in having a pre selection exam if you are helping the cadets to cheat and inducting cadets into the programme with low compass scores. Strato i think it is about time that Alpha is exposed to the entire aviation community. Think about it. Your game is up. I too endorse the banner If you want to lose DH 440,000 come and join Alpha. Meet an aviation academy with no standards.
in having a pre selection exam if you are helping the cadets to cheat and inducting cadets into the programme with low compass scores. Strato i think it is about time that Alpha is exposed to the entire aviation community. Think about it. Your game is up. I too endorse the banner If you want to lose DH 440,000 come and join Alpha. Meet an aviation academy with no standards.
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Strato will Alpha return Honest Pilots money not a chance. Which world are you living in. Please think twice before you speak.You seem to be speaking just for the sake of speaking and you statement has no logic. Will they also return the one year lost because he was lured into joining an academy run by non professionals. That is the sole reason he and all of us are here to make cadets aware before they gamble their money.
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Seriously man in what world do you live in?!
You should know that if i leave alpha I will not get any money back. I signed such a contract! If alpha was to give me back Dhs 300k then yes I would leave!
Seriously man in what world do you live in?!
You should know that if i leave alpha I will not get any money back. I signed such a contract! If alpha was to give me back Dhs 300k then yes I would leave!
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honestpilot... how about focusing on your studies and becoming a successful pilot with Air Arabia and flying for them as an FO....
Stop moaning and hit the books ! seek help of the instructors !...
the new HOT Capt Peder is a very open guy if there are any issues talk to him in private and he will help
Stop moaning and hit the books ! seek help of the instructors !...
the new HOT Capt Peder is a very open guy if there are any issues talk to him in private and he will help
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excuse me dude but who the hell are you to tell me to study?!
I have finished my ground school and avged 90% so i know my stuff.
I am only pointing out the flaws with alpha. And like i have said several times before I am not talking to the heads of Alpha. There is no point. When i first mentioned a problem i was complete ignored and told lies about improvements were made. 6 months later none thing happened!
I have finished my ground school and avged 90% so i know my stuff.
I am only pointing out the flaws with alpha. And like i have said several times before I am not talking to the heads of Alpha. There is no point. When i first mentioned a problem i was complete ignored and told lies about improvements were made. 6 months later none thing happened!
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"dude" ... if you have scored 90% then why worry your place with Air Arabia is secure and you should be helping your fellow students.
So if you have not even tried speaking to the new team and just continue to hide behind a key board and cry nothing will help you...
Go and talk to Carsten the new sales guy, he is a young guy like and will help you out.
So if you have not even tried speaking to the new team and just continue to hide behind a key board and cry nothing will help you...
Go and talk to Carsten the new sales guy, he is a young guy like and will help you out.
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hmm k u are so very very wrong
one of the students who was removed avged 85% in his exams and he did not mind helping his friends. When he came to the flight line he got removed due to his poor performance.
So please do not explain to me that my job is secure. If this was the case alpha would not have made us sign a one sided document. They can remove us when they want and for whatever reason.
There is unlimited proof that alpha has f***ed up. So why should i trust them. I am the one counting myself very stupid that i did not go to the UK for flying. One of the reasons was because getting a visa takes forever and is difficult!
anyways back to bed to try and sleep. Damn my insomnia!
one of the students who was removed avged 85% in his exams and he did not mind helping his friends. When he came to the flight line he got removed due to his poor performance.
So please do not explain to me that my job is secure. If this was the case alpha would not have made us sign a one sided document. They can remove us when they want and for whatever reason.
There is unlimited proof that alpha has f***ed up. So why should i trust them. I am the one counting myself very stupid that i did not go to the UK for flying. One of the reasons was because getting a visa takes forever and is difficult!
anyways back to bed to try and sleep. Damn my insomnia!
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Strato and RP C000 remember Alphas game is up and cadets can fight back for their rights. No point in going on and on like a broken record and use this energy to salvage your academys reputation what ever is left. Be fair to cadets then you dont need to come and defend Alpha.
Truth is apparent so save your energy. As i said spot light is on Alpha.
Truth is apparent so save your energy. As i said spot light is on Alpha.
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There is no challenge to answer Traveller93. Bottom line is that 90+ MPL students have graduated from Clark and are flying A320's in the Philippines and UAE. The majority of the very few students that have not found jobs or were released early from training were all as a result of poor perfomance and lack of aptitude. Nothing more, nothing less. My sources tell me that the couple of non-Filipino students who have yet to find jobs will be employed very soon. Not sure why you continue to try to promote such a negative picture of Alpha, when the truth nowadays is so different. Keep up the great work Alpha and don't let the untruths told by people such as Traveller93 and TarasB get you down.
Show us ONE single post of mine where I was wrong since I began writing on PPRuNe about the plight of the AAG MPLrs.
Regarding the content of your post quoted above, lets see what happens, shall we? Hope you're right, but......
I'll be back until this sorry business is properly squared, no matter what you or others like you say.
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There is no challenge to answer Traveller93. Bottom line is that 90+ MPL students have graduated from Clark and are flying A320's in the Philippines and UAE. The majority of the very few students that have not found jobs or were released early from training were all as a result of poor perfomance and lack of aptitude. Nothing more, nothing less. My sources tell me that the couple of non-Filipino students who have yet to find jobs will be employed very soon. Not sure why you continue to try to promote such a negative picture of Alpha, when the truth nowadays is so different. Keep up the great work Alpha and don't let the untruths told by people such as Traveller93 and TarasB get you down.
Show us ONE single post of mine where I was wrong since I began writing on PPRuNe about the plight of the AAG MPLrs.
Regarding the content of your post quoted above, lets see what happens, shall we? Hope you're right, but......
I'll be back until this sorry business is properly squared, no matter what you or others like you say.
This thread will not die.
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Considering your position with Alpha Aviation, this is a bold statement. Could you elaborate for the masses.
I happen to know what these Foreign cadets, that were promised employment by Clark Aviation when they enrolled, have gone through until now to keep their dream alive. No thanks to Clark Aviation and Alpha Group.
What do you know that they don't. As far as I know they haven't been communicated with any update on employment.
The remaining (non-Filipino) cadet will be employed within the month.
I happen to know what these Foreign cadets, that were promised employment by Clark Aviation when they enrolled, have gone through until now to keep their dream alive. No thanks to Clark Aviation and Alpha Group.
What do you know that they don't. As far as I know they haven't been communicated with any update on employment.
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Batch 7 of AAG UAE
Alpha Aviation Group UAE's 7th batch of MPL students completed their Core Flying Phase at the Australian Airline Pilot Academy (AAPA) in Wagga Wagga, New South Wales
Alpha Aviation Group UAE's 7th batch of MPL students completed their Core Flying Phase at the Australian Airline Pilot Academy (AAPA) in Wagga Wagga, New South Wales
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25 April 2012
More pilots for SEAir from AAG Philippines
Eight ambitious students commenced Airbus 320 type training today at AAG Ph’s Clark academy. These current flyers from SEAir in the Philippines come from a range of turboprop aircraft within the airline’s fleet and are now stepping up to the jet fleet. The placement of this group is a further testament to the faith shown by the airlines of the country in AAG and its experienced team.
SEAir is expanding its fleet through the lease of further Airbus 320 aircraft to add to its current fleet of two.
More pilots for SEAir from AAG Philippines
Eight ambitious students commenced Airbus 320 type training today at AAG Ph’s Clark academy. These current flyers from SEAir in the Philippines come from a range of turboprop aircraft within the airline’s fleet and are now stepping up to the jet fleet. The placement of this group is a further testament to the faith shown by the airlines of the country in AAG and its experienced team.
SEAir is expanding its fleet through the lease of further Airbus 320 aircraft to add to its current fleet of two.
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get your facts mate ! 
....but unfortunately, SEAir doesn't trust its MPL cadets to Clark (Alpha) Aviation and is sending them instead to CAE/Oxford Aviation... SE air has no MPL programme parent company Tiger has an MPL with STAA
...currently, SEAir is simply sending some pilots over to Clark (not the Alpha Academy per se) to use the Cebu Pacific A320 sim to get a type rating. Clark (Alpha) Aviation has to send their own (unsponsored) A320 cadets over to France... no A320 sim time for them! Cebu Pacific does not lease the sim to SE Air as they are competitors; AAG sim instructors train SE Air crew at the 320 sim in BKK until AAG's own 320 sim arrives...
...things are never quite what RP-C000 claims them to be! and these are the facts
....but unfortunately, SEAir doesn't trust its MPL cadets to Clark (Alpha) Aviation and is sending them instead to CAE/Oxford Aviation... SE air has no MPL programme parent company Tiger has an MPL with STAA
...currently, SEAir is simply sending some pilots over to Clark (not the Alpha Academy per se) to use the Cebu Pacific A320 sim to get a type rating. Clark (Alpha) Aviation has to send their own (unsponsored) A320 cadets over to France... no A320 sim time for them! Cebu Pacific does not lease the sim to SE Air as they are competitors; AAG sim instructors train SE Air crew at the 320 sim in BKK until AAG's own 320 sim arrives...
...things are never quite what RP-C000 claims them to be! and these are the facts
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Taras B.. Its clear you have ZERO knowledge about TRTO training... Go back to school young boy..
AAG provides the CAAP approved instructors and the type rating course; a simulator is just a machine; does not matter if you use BKK or Oxford; the key is in the quality of the sim instructors and the course-ware all provided by AAG.
Hence training is provided by AAG.
AAG provides the CAAP approved instructors and the type rating course; a simulator is just a machine; does not matter if you use BKK or Oxford; the key is in the quality of the sim instructors and the course-ware all provided by AAG.
Hence training is provided by AAG.
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You are absolutely correct that CA/AAG provides approved instructors by the CAAP for the type rating course on the A320. And that its just a machine.
That's about as factual and correct as you will get in that matter.
TARAS B couldn't have explained the rest what you have said better than anyone else.
As I recall CA/AAG had to send their cadets to Airbus in France to do their A320 type rating not to long ago. To their surprise of course as CA/AAG did not explain to them initially that they wouldn't be able to do their type rating in Clark. As I recall also Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong have been utilized by CA/AAG to do the type rating training also.
Seems like the company is everywhere except where its suppose to be. Of course this does not only pump the price up considerably, it also always has additional unforeseen costs for the cadet to incur...
As for the quality you are stating a lot can be said about that at this moment. Especially with the new HOT and hes SOP's, but that's a completely different topic.
So RPC000, instead of exerting your efforts and energy here with a futile pissing match (and no you cant do it like the big boys) why not focus your concerns to all those cadets that have not made it into an airline yet but have trusted the promises made by CA/AAG.
Only then can CA/AAG re-branding strategy really work for you and the company.
You are absolutely correct that CA/AAG provides approved instructors by the CAAP for the type rating course on the A320. And that its just a machine.
That's about as factual and correct as you will get in that matter.
TARAS B couldn't have explained the rest what you have said better than anyone else.
As I recall CA/AAG had to send their cadets to Airbus in France to do their A320 type rating not to long ago. To their surprise of course as CA/AAG did not explain to them initially that they wouldn't be able to do their type rating in Clark. As I recall also Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong have been utilized by CA/AAG to do the type rating training also.
Seems like the company is everywhere except where its suppose to be. Of course this does not only pump the price up considerably, it also always has additional unforeseen costs for the cadet to incur...
As for the quality you are stating a lot can be said about that at this moment. Especially with the new HOT and hes SOP's, but that's a completely different topic.
So RPC000, instead of exerting your efforts and energy here with a futile pissing match (and no you cant do it like the big boys) why not focus your concerns to all those cadets that have not made it into an airline yet but have trusted the promises made by CA/AAG.
Only then can CA/AAG re-branding strategy really work for you and the company.
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so are you saying as a local Filipino...that the AAG instructors who are senior capts ex PAL and ex Philippines Air Force are of poor quality and the Airbus JOC course that is approved by EASA & CAAP is useless..
again a fact that you have ZERO knowledge about TRTO operations...
again a fact that you have ZERO knowledge about TRTO operations...
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why not focus your concerns to all those cadets that have not made it into an airline yet but have trusted the promises made by CA/AAG.
The new HOT Richard is highly experienced airline TRE his SOP's are in line with future airline training AAG cadets would need to be ready for.
AAG UAE & AAG Ph offers professional pilot course this is very different from other schools in Philippines who offer a generic CPL/IR course.
Ask the 50 cadets who were successfully employed by Air Phil