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Originally Posted by sizematters
Actually I think the poor chap is confused, or maybe his english is not very good, I think $1500 USD is a DAILY rate for freelance work.............................................either that or or he is a complete
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ever thought of the idea that maybe my proper english is better than your own language ,you're trying to name english ?
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Hi Guys
Has anyone come back from Jade interview recently. Who has any new info. Who wants to share there experience good or BAD..
What's the whole thing like???
JJ696
Has anyone come back from Jade interview recently. Who has any new info. Who wants to share there experience good or BAD..
What's the whole thing like???
JJ696
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Originally Posted by jetjockey696
For the pilots who attended the Jade cargo recruitment interview, I search the topic no mention on the questions they ask at the interview.
I got a interview with them shortly, I am lucky that I am in asia. as I said no one mention the questions they ask at the interview. How about the sim ride (is it in the 777 as they mention or 737...747)??? what is the profile..
I looking for some new news about Jade..any about would helpful at this stage.
JJ696
I got a interview with them shortly, I am lucky that I am in asia. as I said no one mention the questions they ask at the interview. How about the sim ride (is it in the 777 as they mention or 737...747)??? what is the profile..
I looking for some new news about Jade..any about would helpful at this stage.
JJ696
There is no actual interview per sei. It is a serious of medical, english , and phyciatric tests. Then a sim in a B737. Standard profile.
After that a small briefing about pay (vaguely) and benefits.. then you realise it has all been a waste of time and a joke.
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Hello JJ696,
I received your pm but figured that i might as well shed some light on the "Jaded Cargo" operations.....
I did go to the interview/screening process back in Feb and did pass the whole thing including the Chinese medical
. I am currently on a different contract
(way better than Jade) in a different part of the world and the way I looK at it, unless you are hopelessly in need of a job, forget about even attending that interview
.....I did a posting a few pages back about the T's& C's they proposed at the time and from what I have read lately, those have gone down considerably
......and it is not surprising that they are not finding people...at least properly qualified people!
The guy who sat in with me for the sim was supposedly a 737 "captain" and was filling in as an F/O since there was no F/O available but I wouldn't even let this guy fly a 737 as an F/O let alone let him loose on a brand new 744!!! I am a wide body aircraft training/check captain and if they are basing themselves on the few candidates that I've seen of which quite a few have no wide body experience (not to mention the parker pen hours
!!) and no international experience then they will be in for a big surprise!!!
.
Now, to finally answer your pm about the screening process, the first day will be a DLR multiple choice test (personality test) of about 100 questions then an English test of 90 questions in 30 minutes(if English is your mother tongue, then this is a no brainer),and after all that, the 2 German Psychologists briefly interview you to let you know if you have passed the first phase.
If you pass that, then you have the long medical the second day which is about a 2 hour drive to Beijing University Hospital/clinic....not a bad setup and surprisingly very clean. It's a very thorough physical but if you don't have any restrictions or medical conditions and are in relatively good health, then it should not be a problem.
Once that is finished
(you get most of the results the same day) you go for the sim evaluation(on a 737NG) the next day (times may vary depending on the number of candidates) and it is very straight forward....standard noise abatement take off following a sid on raw data, then climbing to 5000 feet for step turns (a 360 but if you do well, the guy will stop you after 180 degrees and just go the other way then roll out).You're given a heading to a VOR ( mine was in Frankfurt) and told to enter the hold....I just mentioned the type of entry, EFC,entry speed and he said fine and cleared me for raw data VOR approach 25R (if I remember right) with a missed approach at minimum....engine failure on the go around with vectors back for a raw data single engine ILS 25L with full stop landing. a bit of work involved but pretty standard stuff..... had to do this single pilot most of the time since the monkey next to me was f
useless.....and I wonder how he managed to get through the interview since his English was poor and unreadable at best.....anyways.....
And finally on the last day, having passed all that, the chief pilot/director flt ops tells you about the poor terms and conditions.....but he puts such a positive spin on it that this guy could sell sand to the Arabs. Then you wake up.
I figured that with Lufthansa Cargo involved it would be a serious operation but boy was I way off the mark.
Hope that this answers your question(s) and like the guys before said,unless you are short of becomimg homeless or flightless, give it a big miss.....
Thats my two cents and a nickels worth....
Cheers,
Rwethereyet
I received your pm but figured that i might as well shed some light on the "Jaded Cargo" operations.....
I did go to the interview/screening process back in Feb and did pass the whole thing including the Chinese medical
. I am currently on a different contract (way better than Jade) in a different part of the world and the way I looK at it, unless you are hopelessly in need of a job, forget about even attending that interview .....I did a posting a few pages back about the T's& C's they proposed at the time and from what I have read lately, those have gone down considerably ......and it is not surprising that they are not finding people...at least properly qualified people!The guy who sat in with me for the sim was supposedly a 737 "captain" and was filling in as an F/O since there was no F/O available but I wouldn't even let this guy fly a 737 as an F/O let alone let him loose on a brand new 744!!! I am a wide body aircraft training/check captain and if they are basing themselves on the few candidates that I've seen of which quite a few have no wide body experience (not to mention the parker pen hours
!!) and no international experience then they will be in for a big surprise!!! .Now, to finally answer your pm about the screening process, the first day will be a DLR multiple choice test (personality test) of about 100 questions then an English test of 90 questions in 30 minutes(if English is your mother tongue, then this is a no brainer),and after all that, the 2 German Psychologists briefly interview you to let you know if you have passed the first phase.
If you pass that, then you have the long medical the second day which is about a 2 hour drive to Beijing University Hospital/clinic....not a bad setup and surprisingly very clean. It's a very thorough physical but if you don't have any restrictions or medical conditions and are in relatively good health, then it should not be a problem.
Once that is finished
(you get most of the results the same day) you go for the sim evaluation(on a 737NG) the next day (times may vary depending on the number of candidates) and it is very straight forward....standard noise abatement take off following a sid on raw data, then climbing to 5000 feet for step turns (a 360 but if you do well, the guy will stop you after 180 degrees and just go the other way then roll out).You're given a heading to a VOR ( mine was in Frankfurt) and told to enter the hold....I just mentioned the type of entry, EFC,entry speed and he said fine and cleared me for raw data VOR approach 25R (if I remember right) with a missed approach at minimum....engine failure on the go around with vectors back for a raw data single engine ILS 25L with full stop landing. a bit of work involved but pretty standard stuff..... had to do this single pilot most of the time since the monkey next to me was f useless.....and I wonder how he managed to get through the interview since his English was poor and unreadable at best.....anyways.....And finally on the last day, having passed all that, the chief pilot/director flt ops tells you about the poor terms and conditions.....but he puts such a positive spin on it that this guy could sell sand to the Arabs. Then you wake up.
I figured that with Lufthansa Cargo involved it would be a serious operation but boy was I way off the mark.
Hope that this answers your question(s) and like the guys before said,unless you are short of becomimg homeless or flightless, give it a big miss.....
Thats my two cents and a nickels worth....
Cheers,
Rwethereyet
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Thanks for the information you supplied, very comprehensive. I guess some of the airline companies around the world "rnotthereyet"
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Thanks again
JJ696
Thanks for the information you supplied, very comprehensive. I guess some of the airline companies around the world "rnotthereyet"
. Thanks again
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Check out Great Wall Airlines
Great Wall 744 terms are up to 60,000rmb Capt, plus500rmb hr up to 70 hrs, 900rmb after, annual increments and profit share prob, medical and dental benefits, 2500rmb for staff travel, 12250rmb housing, education allowance etc etc and based in Shanghai. Now that could be fun!
It should make Jade realise that its terms and conditions are way out of line. any company employing 747 capts should be in the region of $12000us per month plus benefits with F/O's on a commensurate deal. They will lose their trained crews after a very short period if they do not review their contract, it will be very attractive for them to move up the road to Shanghai......
It should make Jade realise that its terms and conditions are way out of line. any company employing 747 capts should be in the region of $12000us per month plus benefits with F/O's on a commensurate deal. They will lose their trained crews after a very short period if they do not review their contract, it will be very attractive for them to move up the road to Shanghai......
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Anybody out there with info as how to apply to this outfit or do they just take guys from SIN Cargo!? I read up about them and they seem much more serious than Jade....
A website or any other info would be greatly appreciated....
Thanks, Cheers
RWTY
A website or any other info would be greatly appreciated....
Thanks, Cheers
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where do i apply with this good rating sponsor?
Originally Posted by sizematters
$8000 US Dollars a month for Captains...................provided your type rated, less $1200 a month if not type rated so a non type rated Captain will bank $6,800 US Dollars, No loss of Licence, No medical insurance, no provident/ pension fund....................this is based on flying 50 hours a month (Flying hours not credit hours)
The way they explain the salary is this:
Base Salary is $5,500 a month but they GUARENTEE to pay you for 50 hour at $50/hour hence you will get $8000 as a CAPTAIN, but they expect you to fly 80 hours hence the additional 30 hours @ $50/hour to make it $9,500......................of course there is not a hope in Hell you'll fly 80 hours a month, you'll maybe do 50 as they will be busy training for at least two years
Days off.........Guarenteed 3 consecutive days a month, but 9 days off total, maybe 2 in Amsterdam, I in somewhere else and a couple of blocks of 2 or 3 in Shenzen......................
Per Diem...........$3 us dollars an hour............BUT............from the time you LAND at the destination till the time you LEAVE the destination, after all they are paying you $50/hour flight pay, why do you need any more???
This whole offer is a joke. they are getting some takers but all Non Type rated who are getting a very nice -400 course with British airways, and no doubt when they have a few hours under the belt they will just go work for someone who is prepared to pay a realistic salary.................
lots of excuse's about "you have to appreciate we are a start up, and things will gt better (yeah, right, please Mr.Tooth fairy) the guy who tells you about the salary scheme is so embarrasssed he can hardly look at you then mumbles about how, these scales are hard to decipher !!!
the bond is a joke though so if you want a type rating and 6 months being paid peanuts to then go elsewhere, come and take advantage of this very generous scheme..............you sign on and they deduct $1200 a month for 3 years end of story, so if you wait to pay day and leave they can chase you round a bit but I doubt they'll see any money back, even if you have to pay them the 1200 you can go work elsewhere and be considerably better off...........
Lots of very pleasant people at Jade, but the selection process is a joke and they will end up employing a lot of "bottom of the barrel" because no one who can do the job will work for this money................they actually passed some people on the sim ride who I personally wouldn't let loose on a push bike to the shops, let alone look after a shiny new -400..................still the first insurance claim is inevitable and that will obliterate the cost savings from the "Cheap" crews for the next 50 years...................
Final word, UNLESS YOUR DESPERATE, AND IN NEED OF A -400 RATING
FORGET IT !!!
The way they explain the salary is this:
Base Salary is $5,500 a month but they GUARENTEE to pay you for 50 hour at $50/hour hence you will get $8000 as a CAPTAIN, but they expect you to fly 80 hours hence the additional 30 hours @ $50/hour to make it $9,500......................of course there is not a hope in Hell you'll fly 80 hours a month, you'll maybe do 50 as they will be busy training for at least two years
Days off.........Guarenteed 3 consecutive days a month, but 9 days off total, maybe 2 in Amsterdam, I in somewhere else and a couple of blocks of 2 or 3 in Shenzen......................
Per Diem...........$3 us dollars an hour............BUT............from the time you LAND at the destination till the time you LEAVE the destination, after all they are paying you $50/hour flight pay, why do you need any more???
This whole offer is a joke. they are getting some takers but all Non Type rated who are getting a very nice -400 course with British airways, and no doubt when they have a few hours under the belt they will just go work for someone who is prepared to pay a realistic salary.................
lots of excuse's about "you have to appreciate we are a start up, and things will gt better (yeah, right, please Mr.Tooth fairy) the guy who tells you about the salary scheme is so embarrasssed he can hardly look at you then mumbles about how, these scales are hard to decipher !!!
the bond is a joke though so if you want a type rating and 6 months being paid peanuts to then go elsewhere, come and take advantage of this very generous scheme..............you sign on and they deduct $1200 a month for 3 years end of story, so if you wait to pay day and leave they can chase you round a bit but I doubt they'll see any money back, even if you have to pay them the 1200 you can go work elsewhere and be considerably better off...........
Lots of very pleasant people at Jade, but the selection process is a joke and they will end up employing a lot of "bottom of the barrel" because no one who can do the job will work for this money................they actually passed some people on the sim ride who I personally wouldn't let loose on a push bike to the shops, let alone look after a shiny new -400..................still the first insurance claim is inevitable and that will obliterate the cost savings from the "Cheap" crews for the next 50 years...................
Final word, UNLESS YOUR DESPERATE, AND IN NEED OF A -400 RATING
FORGET IT !!!
