26 New Start ups this year!

[Sheep Guts]

Looks like Oasis are starting with 747-400, they are leasing 3 initially. also looks like WOW Macau is startup involving Virgin and AirMacau, and will be leasing B757 initially. Dam I thought these guys were going the BUS.


SHEEP

Keep the info coming in guys

[Capt Snooze]

More on Okay Airlines, Beijing.

Avflash are quoting:

The first private airlines are taking flight in China and they'll need at least 8,000 pilots over the next 10 years. Since there is virtually no GA system to produce those pilots, the airlines must look abroad. "China is short of captains and co-pilots," said Liu Jieyin, chairman of Okay Airways, China's first privately held airline. "We offer young foreign pilots an opportunity to grow." The airline recently hired seven young pilots, including a Canadian and two Swiss as well as four from Hong Kong, and Liu said there are plans to hire more as the fledgling airline's fleet of six leased 737s starts competing for business with the three state-owned airlines. First officers will earn about $2,500 a month.

Snooze

[Sheep Guts]

$2500 a month


keep the info coming thanks Snooze

Sheep

P.S. If they offer that kind of dosh they will soon learn what to offer.

[Sheep Guts]

I used to fly a KingAir for $4000.00usd/month. I suppose its all relative, I dont think they will get many qualified guys for that salary, unless they are guys who want time on type and then leave after a year or 6 months.

Maybe now is the time that Chinese Pilots go fo higher wages. Chinas economy is still growing and its wage scale is no doubt being left behind in this dynamic market place.

Sheep

[Chocks Away]

Some "late mail" ex New Straits Times, Tues March 22nd:

(Not a new start as such domestically, but is launching International ops)

Sriwijaya Air : Indonesian carrier is still in discussions with authorities over routes into Malaysia (KL & Penang).
Sriwijaya Air's district manager Heru Tony Hardjanto confirmed interest was in the Medan/KL and Medan/Penang routes and is hoping to start international ops within 6 months.

Currently serving 10 destinations domestically throughout Indonesia, with 12 full-service B737-200s, Malaysia will be the airline's maiden international destination.


Nok Air (already established) also planning expansion into KL next month, as are Jet Airways (India) and Air Sahara (India) latter this year. Shenzhen Airlines already flying to KL from early this year.

PS AirAsia starting Manilla flights (Clark Angeles Airport) April 5th.

[Capt Snooze]

Some more detail about Indian startups here.




Snooze

[SmoothCriminal]

Heard from unconfirmed sources that the Indian Operators are now "allowed to take pilots with foreign licences" including FO's ! with working rights.

Know for a fact that they are recruiting Captains and C&T's on a contract basis.

Any comments ?! much appreciated in advance.

Smoothie

[ucfthug4u]

Update in new airlines list

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Jet Star Asia, Operating from Singapore(nov.2005) 8 x A320. Adding 20 planes by 06-07.

Intersting article regarding Singapore Airlines ordering more planes.

check it out.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._boeing23.html


Keep updating this post! Great Info. Thanks everyone.

[Sheep Guts]

ucfthug4u,
Hate to say this, but Jetstar Asia has been operating since mid 2004 hence it is not part of this list "26 New Start Ups this year" being 2005. Thanks for your contribution though. If any of the above airlines have started last year they cant be put on the list. Im am not sure on the Indian ones.

Sheep
P.s. keep bringing them in 2005 debut airlines only guys!

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)


Regards
SHEEP

[SmoothCriminal]

Another one;

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India

Hmmmm.... 10 of the above are in India !!

Smoothie....

[Dart18]

As far as I know, no.8 on the "list" is called UNITED EAGLE, based in Chengdu area, China ( www.ueair.com )

[Sheep Guts]

Back to the top. To see if anyone has more info.

Thanks again to everyone involved


Sheep

[asiancanucks]

OK AIR

Okay is finaly OK Air internet
www.okair.net

nice picture here!

http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?airline=OKAIR

cheers

[Boeing737jock]

OK air

Anyone got OK Airways

e-mail or adress?

[Giant88]

Asmara Air

May remove Asmara Air frm the list. DCA Malaysia did not approved their AOL. Supposed to start with 3 F50s...

[Capt Snooze]

A bit more info on a couple of the starters............

Low-cost for the long-haul

By Charles Anderson

Two veterans of the Hong Kong aviation scene, Steve Miller and Andrew Pyne, are involved in attempts to start long-distance, low-cost airlines.
Miller, an aviation consultant who was the first chief executive of Hong Kong Dragon Airlines when it was founded 20 years ago, has been named as chief executive of Oasis Hong Kong Airlines.
The new carrier will concentrate on long-haul routes from Hong Kong International Airport. Backers are reported to include an American property developer and one of Hong Kong’s top electronics moguls.
The airline, which aims to launch by the year-end using a small fleet of Boeing B747-400s or Airbus A340-300s, is to target tour groups and holiday travellers looking for low-priced flights to Europe. North American cities may be added later.
Pyne, head of international affairs at Cathay Pacific Airways until last year, is a director of Macau Eagle Aviation Services, which plans to launch WOW Macau by early autumn. It is looking to lease Boeing 767s and 757s and is exploring the availability of routes under a possible agreement with Air Macau, which has first call on them as the city’s home carrier. Virgin Blue has also been wooing Air Macau over the 'formation of a joint-venture, low-cost carrier there.
Talks were said to be under way, at the time of writing, with both Macau and Hong Kong over which would become its base. If WOW Macau chooses the latter, its name will be WOW Asia.

from Orient Aviation Magazine



Another couple re WOW!Macau................

WOW!Macau
(courtesy of Speedbreak, on another thread.)


and


This news item.



Is this another one?

\'CR Airways, has launched its first China scheduled service, to Nanning in Guangxi province, flying twice daily, three times a week. It plans to follow soon with Jinan and Wengzhou and said it will add secondary cities that need point-to-point services for business travellers. Dragonair does not operate to those first three destinations.

CR Airways, owned by Hong Kong business-man Robert Yip, is currently operating two 50-seat Bombardier CRJ200s, which it plans to swap for larger CRJ700s. It runs charter services to Laoag, the Philippines, Siem Reap, Phuket, Langkawi and Danang in Vietnam.\'


Snooze

[Kaptin M]

Star Flyer - an A320 operation kicking off later this year, or early next year, from the new airport in Kitakyushu (northern Kyushu......just north of Fukuoka), initially with 3 aircraft. They are supposedly paying USD14k/month for Captains.
Recruiting through several contract companies.

[flycold]

1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India
+
32. HanSung Airlines, South Korean 1st LCC, ATR72

[PK-KAR]

The list grows and grows...

Looks like I missed one that's already running now...
Lintas Nusantara/Linus... now flying 722/732 and soon 146s... however looks like they're going bust soon too...

FlyCold:
Effatha Papua Air is at:
"Menara Dea, Jl. Mega Kuningan Barat I, Jakarta-Selatan." My fiancee just went there last week. I'll ask for the contact number if they call her up again...

Not much else is known apart from they're going to operate ex BO/5H MD82s.


The way things are at the moment... for Indonesia=
1. Lintas Nusantara/Linus. Already flying last month.
2. Top Air = Still in limbo. Aircraft and crew ready, no news on AOC.
3. Gatari Air Charter, already operating, where and for who no one knows.
4. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, but still no info. Unlikely to start 2005.
5. Efatha Papua Air, currently recruiting, MD82s. Office details above.
6. Cendrawasih Air, Twotter operator, current plans in limbo as finances dried up.
7. ASCO. F50 operations planned, subject to CASR121 type supplement being approved. Looking at September 2005. Timika base.
8. "X" Air, with Singaporean finance, seeking to purchase an Indonesian AOC. A320s reported to be coming in from July, up to 5 for 2005. Recruiting, no airline name, and still looking for AOC to buy. Purchase candidate is Bali Air or Indonesian Airlines.
9. "Y" Air, local finance, seeking to purchase Indonesian AOC. "Base somewhere in Papua". Currently in financing discussion. Target start date August. F50 initial, ATR42 planned. C212 initial, to be replaced with 30 seater. F100 being offered but not decision.
10. Royal Bali Air, no further news. I heard they're having AOC difficulties.

So the list should now be...
1.Oasis HongKong Airlines HK Sar leasing 3x744?
2.Air India Express, INDIA(18XB737-800)
3. WOW MACAU Macau SAR leasing B757or A320?
4. Asmara Air, Malaysia
5.Okay Airlines, Tianjing Airport,Beijing CHINA B737-900(10 order)
6.Spring Air, Shanghai CHINA Airbus or Boeing?
7.United Eagle Airlines, Chengdu CHINA
8. Spicejet (www.spicejet.com), India B737-800 (20 Order)
9. Kingfisher(www.flykingfisher.com),India A320(20),A319(3)
10. Indus Airways, India 5 leased Embraer RJ-145s
11. Go Airways, India
12. Air One, India
13. Yamuna Airways, INDIA
14. Ozjet, Adelaide,Australia B737-200
15. Air Next Fukuoka, Japan B737 operator
16. HongKong Express , HK Sar EMB 170
17. Paramount Airways, India (Coimbatore) EMB170/190?
18. Jeju Air (tentative), in South Korea.
19. Royal Air Service, Bali, Indonesia. B733/A310
20. Top Air, 732/722/MD80
21. Gatari Air Charter, 5x F28
22. Satrio Mataram Airlines, recruiting, no other info.
23. Effatha Papua Air
24: Huaxia Airlines in Gansu Province, China, B737-900
25. Virgin Macau, Macau SAR A320/B737??
26. Golden Dragon, Macau SAR
27. Magic Air, New Delhi, India A320or B737( 10)?
28. Gold Airways, Melbourne Australia www.flygold.com.au
29. ECO Air,HongKong Financed, Brisbane based Australia YAK12?
30. Visa Airways,India. (DHC Dash 8)
31. Crescent Air Cargo (Cargo Dedicated F50's), India
32. HanSung Airlines, South Korean 1st LCC, ATR72
33. Linus Air, Indonesian, 722/732/146
34. Cendrawasih Air, Indonesia, Twotter Ops
35. ASCO, Indonesia. F50/C402.
36. Kakoak Air, East Timor, using Merpati C212 at the moment. Started March 05.

"X" and "Y" not being put to the list yet until further details available.

PK-KAR

[Outlaw]

Asmara Air??????

can anyone give more info bout this asmara air???

when will it start?
any contact?
what type of aircrafts?
base?kl?jb?pg?

thanx guys.