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Manga reflect xenophobia in Japan
A worrying fad: Comics degrading Koreans and Chinese
By Norimitsu Onishi - The New York Times.
Tokyo: A young Japanese woman in the comic book "Hating the Korean Wave" exclaims, "It's not an exaggeration to say that Japan built the South Korea of today!"
In another passage, the book states that "there is nothing at all in Korean culture to be proud of."
In another comic book, "Introduction to China", which portrays the Chinese as a depraved people obsessed with cannibalism, a woman of Japanese origin says: "Take the China of today, its principles, thought, literature, art, science, institutions. There's nothing attractive."
The two comic books portraying Chinese and Koreans as base peoples and advocating confrontation with them have become runaway best sellers in Japan in the past four months.
In their graphic and unflattering drawings of Japan's fellow Asians and in the unapologetic, often offensive contents of their speech bubbles, the books reveal some of the sentiments underlying Japans worsening relations with the rest of Asia.
They also point to Japans long-standing unease with the rest of Asia and its own sense of identity, which is akin to Britain's apartness from the Continent. Much of Japan's history in the last century and a half has been guided by the goal of becoming more like the West and less like Asia. Today, China and South Korea rise to challenge Japan's position as Asia's economic, diplomatic, and cultural leader is inspiring renewed xenophobic bias against them here.
So far the two books, each running about 300 pages and costing around $10 have drawn little criticism from public officials, intellects, or the mainstream media.
The comic books, perhaps inadvertently, betray Japan's conflicted identity, its long-standing feelings of superiority towards Asia, and of inferiority toward the West. The Japanese characters in the book are drawn with big eyes, blond hair, and Caucasian features ; the Koreans are drawn with black hair, narrow eyes, and very Asian features.
"An introduction to China", which depicts the Chinese as obsessed with cannibalism and prostitution has sold 180,000 copies. The book describes China as the "world's prostitution superpower" and says, without offering evidence, that prostitution accounts for 10 percent of the country's gross domestic product.
It describes China as a source of disease, and depicts Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi saying, "I hear that most of the epidemics that broke out in Japan on a large scale, are from China."
The book waves away Japan's worst wartime atrocities in China, and dismisses the Rape of Nanking - in which historians say 100,000 to 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese soldiers in 1937 to 1938, as a fabrication of the Chinese government, devised to spread anti-Japanese sentiment - "postwar China's biggest hit."
A worrying fad: Comics degrading Koreans and Chinese
By Norimitsu Onishi - The New York Times.
Tokyo: A young Japanese woman in the comic book "Hating the Korean Wave" exclaims, "It's not an exaggeration to say that Japan built the South Korea of today!"
In another passage, the book states that "there is nothing at all in Korean culture to be proud of."
In another comic book, "Introduction to China", which portrays the Chinese as a depraved people obsessed with cannibalism, a woman of Japanese origin says: "Take the China of today, its principles, thought, literature, art, science, institutions. There's nothing attractive."
The two comic books portraying Chinese and Koreans as base peoples and advocating confrontation with them have become runaway best sellers in Japan in the past four months.
In their graphic and unflattering drawings of Japan's fellow Asians and in the unapologetic, often offensive contents of their speech bubbles, the books reveal some of the sentiments underlying Japans worsening relations with the rest of Asia.
They also point to Japans long-standing unease with the rest of Asia and its own sense of identity, which is akin to Britain's apartness from the Continent. Much of Japan's history in the last century and a half has been guided by the goal of becoming more like the West and less like Asia. Today, China and South Korea rise to challenge Japan's position as Asia's economic, diplomatic, and cultural leader is inspiring renewed xenophobic bias against them here.
So far the two books, each running about 300 pages and costing around $10 have drawn little criticism from public officials, intellects, or the mainstream media.
The comic books, perhaps inadvertently, betray Japan's conflicted identity, its long-standing feelings of superiority towards Asia, and of inferiority toward the West. The Japanese characters in the book are drawn with big eyes, blond hair, and Caucasian features ; the Koreans are drawn with black hair, narrow eyes, and very Asian features.
"An introduction to China", which depicts the Chinese as obsessed with cannibalism and prostitution has sold 180,000 copies. The book describes China as the "world's prostitution superpower" and says, without offering evidence, that prostitution accounts for 10 percent of the country's gross domestic product.
It describes China as a source of disease, and depicts Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi saying, "I hear that most of the epidemics that broke out in Japan on a large scale, are from China."
The book waves away Japan's worst wartime atrocities in China, and dismisses the Rape of Nanking - in which historians say 100,000 to 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese soldiers in 1937 to 1938, as a fabrication of the Chinese government, devised to spread anti-Japanese sentiment - "postwar China's biggest hit."
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Kapitan M:
Depraved and warped comic books have been circulated in Japan for years but those two "best sellers" you have cited appear to have sunk to a level of lying that even reasonable Japanese would find hard to accept. I wonder what the hordes of Japanese tourists who visit China seeking a link with their identify think of it all. I also wonder why it is that Japanese literature never seems to refer to that mushroom cloud that they as a nation are so privileged to be identified with.
Prince of Dzun
P.S. May I wish you and those two gentlemen from the other side of the river ("N" and "S") all the best for the coming year and let's all hope 2006 will provide some positive enlightenment for those who need it.
Depraved and warped comic books have been circulated in Japan for years but those two "best sellers" you have cited appear to have sunk to a level of lying that even reasonable Japanese would find hard to accept. I wonder what the hordes of Japanese tourists who visit China seeking a link with their identify think of it all. I also wonder why it is that Japanese literature never seems to refer to that mushroom cloud that they as a nation are so privileged to be identified with.
Prince of Dzun
P.S. May I wish you and those two gentlemen from the other side of the river ("N" and "S") all the best for the coming year and let's all hope 2006 will provide some positive enlightenment for those who need it.
Interesting... this thread really does remind me of the claims of the JET program English teachers in Japan.
I managed to live in Japan for six years, experiencing PRACTICALLY NO RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.
Andi I worked in an industry in which I was pretty much the only foreigner around. None of my co-workers spoke any English. A majority of them had never been overseas. Those that had, had been to the US for a two-week holiday, or similar.
Somebody claimed that Japan is extremely restricted.
Couldnt be further from the truth.
In Japan... rules restrict nothing! Rather, people rely on morals... oh my god???
Example: Drinking -
The legal age may be 20, but responsible drinkers aged much younger are still allowed in pubs... They have a very valid reason to kick them out at any time if they cause any troube... but almost never have to.
Also, one of the few countries where you can still drink on a beach!!! They dont punish the responsible drinkers just becuase of a few misbehaving youger adults...
Having said that... The one thing that the Japanese people will discriminate passionately against is ignorance of the Japanese culture when in Japan. That is not a racial issue.
The other 50% of the perceived problems are language based. I am yet to meet a Japanese person (and living in Japan) who speaks English to a level in which they can communicate their emotions efficiently. I am also yet to meet a foreigner in Japan who can express their emotions efficiently.
Then again... I didnt go out of my way to meet foreigners... and they make up less than 1% of the polulation, I think.
Kaptin M>
Re: Working conditions - comparison between Japanese and
Foreign pilots
Not really fair to compare contract employees full-time employees, but I do stand to be corrected if this is not the case.
If you applied via the Japanese language website for their ab-initio scheme (which also has a clear statement that people of all nationalities will be equally considered) you would be earning just what they are. A Japanese national who trained overseas and was working through the same contract as you, would be paid the same and have the same conditions as you, correct?
Re: Burakumin and Zainichi Koreans-
There have been movements to remove the "burakumin" status entirely. Guess what... Its them who dont want it. Why would they vote to lose their subsidised housing and lower taxes?
The only dislike whatsoever towards them is based on these issues. God damn... theyre not even a different race or anything.
What defines them? The only thing defining them is govenment handouts based on bloodline.
3rd and 4th generation Koreans being not considered Japanese.... interesting again. They have every opportunity to consider themselves Japanese, just choose not to. Once again, that is basis of the only residual discrimination. Funny thing is.... did you know that a large number of them moved to Japan voluntarily, as they were able to with Korea being considered a part of Japan during the war?
AND WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE REST OF ASIA STILL GOIN ON ABOUT WWII?? GET OVER IT!!!
Live in Japan, in a non-sheltered (ie. living with other foreigners) part of Japan, and show an effort to learn their culture. It isnt all that hard... because you know what... If you show you are willing to try things their way, they will help you 100%!
Prince of Dzun>
Mate... I know Ill never be able to change your mind at all... but please.... How many Japanese people do you know???
Stop hating an entire of nation of people based on media and government sensationalizations of the actions of a few evil Japanese people during the war.
Do you think nobody else of a different nationality raped or murdered anybody?
The medias representations of "ignorant" Japanese teenagers is appauling, I agree.
Now head down to a local pub in Australia or New Zealand and see what knowledge the locals have of any Asian topics, or world war II for that matter.
Acutally... go to a Chinese restraunt at 1am and listen to all the drunk fools rubbishing the Chinese peolpe/food while they eat their fried rice.
There may be a few racist people, murderers, and rapists in Japan; ****.... there are 127 million people there.
But, can you find me a nation anywhere with less!?
Ive had similar time as an adult in Japan and in OZ/NZ... and a vast majority of any "racism" Ive seen has been in the latter two.
Enough rambling...
What has this got to do with flying anyway?
I managed to live in Japan for six years, experiencing PRACTICALLY NO RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.
Andi I worked in an industry in which I was pretty much the only foreigner around. None of my co-workers spoke any English. A majority of them had never been overseas. Those that had, had been to the US for a two-week holiday, or similar.
Somebody claimed that Japan is extremely restricted.
Couldnt be further from the truth.
In Japan... rules restrict nothing! Rather, people rely on morals... oh my god???
Example: Drinking -
The legal age may be 20, but responsible drinkers aged much younger are still allowed in pubs... They have a very valid reason to kick them out at any time if they cause any troube... but almost never have to.
Also, one of the few countries where you can still drink on a beach!!! They dont punish the responsible drinkers just becuase of a few misbehaving youger adults...
Having said that... The one thing that the Japanese people will discriminate passionately against is ignorance of the Japanese culture when in Japan. That is not a racial issue.
The other 50% of the perceived problems are language based. I am yet to meet a Japanese person (and living in Japan) who speaks English to a level in which they can communicate their emotions efficiently. I am also yet to meet a foreigner in Japan who can express their emotions efficiently.
Then again... I didnt go out of my way to meet foreigners... and they make up less than 1% of the polulation, I think.
Kaptin M>
Re: Working conditions - comparison between Japanese and
Foreign pilots
Not really fair to compare contract employees full-time employees, but I do stand to be corrected if this is not the case.
If you applied via the Japanese language website for their ab-initio scheme (which also has a clear statement that people of all nationalities will be equally considered) you would be earning just what they are. A Japanese national who trained overseas and was working through the same contract as you, would be paid the same and have the same conditions as you, correct?
Re: Burakumin and Zainichi Koreans-
There have been movements to remove the "burakumin" status entirely. Guess what... Its them who dont want it. Why would they vote to lose their subsidised housing and lower taxes?
The only dislike whatsoever towards them is based on these issues. God damn... theyre not even a different race or anything.
What defines them? The only thing defining them is govenment handouts based on bloodline.
3rd and 4th generation Koreans being not considered Japanese.... interesting again. They have every opportunity to consider themselves Japanese, just choose not to. Once again, that is basis of the only residual discrimination. Funny thing is.... did you know that a large number of them moved to Japan voluntarily, as they were able to with Korea being considered a part of Japan during the war?
AND WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE REST OF ASIA STILL GOIN ON ABOUT WWII?? GET OVER IT!!!
Live in Japan, in a non-sheltered (ie. living with other foreigners) part of Japan, and show an effort to learn their culture. It isnt all that hard... because you know what... If you show you are willing to try things their way, they will help you 100%!
Prince of Dzun>
Mate... I know Ill never be able to change your mind at all... but please.... How many Japanese people do you know???
Stop hating an entire of nation of people based on media and government sensationalizations of the actions of a few evil Japanese people during the war.
Do you think nobody else of a different nationality raped or murdered anybody?
The medias representations of "ignorant" Japanese teenagers is appauling, I agree.
Now head down to a local pub in Australia or New Zealand and see what knowledge the locals have of any Asian topics, or world war II for that matter.
Acutally... go to a Chinese restraunt at 1am and listen to all the drunk fools rubbishing the Chinese peolpe/food while they eat their fried rice.
There may be a few racist people, murderers, and rapists in Japan; ****.... there are 127 million people there.
But, can you find me a nation anywhere with less!?
Ive had similar time as an adult in Japan and in OZ/NZ... and a vast majority of any "racism" Ive seen has been in the latter two.
Enough rambling...
What has this got to do with flying anyway?
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glekichi,
Glad to finally see someone appear on this thread with a rational mind.
Comparing the racism over here in America...Japan is tame. glekichi makes some excellent points regarding language and cultural ignorance among immigrants in Japan. I have never experienced racism in Japan because I have made good faith efforts to understand the language and culture. If I were in France, Germany, Spain or Italy...the same rules would apply.
Also, I would like to add, that I could find racist propaganda on the NET from all the countries mentioned above and I could claim that these E.U. countries were racist as well.When your an immigrant, your MINORITY. Those of you experiencing difficulties in Japan...well...now you know what it feels like when someone from Africa immigrates to the U.K. or someone from Latin America immigrates to the United States. Yep...Japan can be racist...just like all the other First World Economic Countries. Overall though...people are people...and the Japanese are no worse or no better than anybody else.
Glad to finally see someone appear on this thread with a rational mind.
Comparing the racism over here in America...Japan is tame. glekichi makes some excellent points regarding language and cultural ignorance among immigrants in Japan. I have never experienced racism in Japan because I have made good faith efforts to understand the language and culture. If I were in France, Germany, Spain or Italy...the same rules would apply.
Also, I would like to add, that I could find racist propaganda on the NET from all the countries mentioned above and I could claim that these E.U. countries were racist as well.When your an immigrant, your MINORITY. Those of you experiencing difficulties in Japan...well...now you know what it feels like when someone from Africa immigrates to the U.K. or someone from Latin America immigrates to the United States. Yep...Japan can be racist...just like all the other First World Economic Countries. Overall though...people are people...and the Japanese are no worse or no better than anybody else.
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glekichi:
I agree with some of your sentiments but you seem to have entirely missed the point. We are not discussing individual racism we are discussing the attitude of Japan as a nation, their real feelings towards non Japanese, and their lack of remorse for past deeds. Deeds that still affect the lives of millions of individuals either mentally or physically. Granted there are some decent and high principled Japanese but psychologists have great difficulty explaining to laymen like me why it is that they (the Japanese) change into animals when put into a uniform and mobilised as a single unit. This is the gist of the problem and your childish statement "an what the hell is up with the rest of Asia still going on about WWII?? Get over it!!" is in itself an admission that you don't really understand and that you are suffering from a touch of the Janus factor. I don't hear the Zionists asking the world to forget about the war and what happened in Europe. I suppose it would be too much for you to explain the difference to me but I'll standby anyway. Today's South China Morning Post under a banner headline is reporting that the Nanjing city government is planning to spend 478 million yuan to expand the Nanking Memorial erected as a result of the Japanese massacre, ask yourself why are they doing this. Also there is another report about Prime Minister Koizumi bleating about how he is being "misunderstood" for honoring executed Japanese war criminals . If you can make sense out of the actions of a leader who encourages worship of war criminals then perhaps you can explain that to me as well. I don't understand his motives except to consider them sinister.
As far a your "what has this to do with aviation" comment I think you will find that most of the contributors here are pilots with operating experience in Japan. What they think of the place is of interest and directed mainly to fellow pilots.
Prince of Dzun
I agree with some of your sentiments but you seem to have entirely missed the point. We are not discussing individual racism we are discussing the attitude of Japan as a nation, their real feelings towards non Japanese, and their lack of remorse for past deeds. Deeds that still affect the lives of millions of individuals either mentally or physically. Granted there are some decent and high principled Japanese but psychologists have great difficulty explaining to laymen like me why it is that they (the Japanese) change into animals when put into a uniform and mobilised as a single unit. This is the gist of the problem and your childish statement "an what the hell is up with the rest of Asia still going on about WWII?? Get over it!!" is in itself an admission that you don't really understand and that you are suffering from a touch of the Janus factor. I don't hear the Zionists asking the world to forget about the war and what happened in Europe. I suppose it would be too much for you to explain the difference to me but I'll standby anyway. Today's South China Morning Post under a banner headline is reporting that the Nanjing city government is planning to spend 478 million yuan to expand the Nanking Memorial erected as a result of the Japanese massacre, ask yourself why are they doing this. Also there is another report about Prime Minister Koizumi bleating about how he is being "misunderstood" for honoring executed Japanese war criminals . If you can make sense out of the actions of a leader who encourages worship of war criminals then perhaps you can explain that to me as well. I don't understand his motives except to consider them sinister.
As far a your "what has this to do with aviation" comment I think you will find that most of the contributors here are pilots with operating experience in Japan. What they think of the place is of interest and directed mainly to fellow pilots.
Prince of Dzun
Prince>
No doubt there were many atrocities committed by Japanese soldiers during WWII.
That does not make all Japanese soldiers criminals.
Most of them were doing just as the soldiers of every nation involved were; fighting for their country. Nothing more.
Koizumi's visits to Yasukuni to which you (I assume) are referring, are no different to the leader of any other nation paying tribute to those who gave their lives for their countries.
"the attitude of Japan as a nation, their real feelings towards non Japanese, and their lack of remorse for past deeds"
What is Japans attitude, as a nation then?
Now in no way do the following cancel out what has occurred in the past, but surely they indicate an acceptance of responsibility.
- Japan is still paying compensation to China as a nation.
- Japan helped to fund South Koreas involvement in the World Cup.
(ie. Built their stadiums for them!)
Like I said, communication might well be the problem here.
The Japanese way of expressing emotion is very different to other cultures. Japanese men are often accused of not showing affection towards their lovers, but I can assure you that they are just as loving as anybody else.
Do you know what a Japanese person looks like when they are showing remorse?
Try knowing them and then see if you still think that they think what Japan did in the war was right.
"the Nanjing city government is planning to spend 478 million yuan to expand the Nanking Memorial"
Im not denying the incident, but surely you can see that it has and still is being distorted as propaganda by the Chinese government? The above only reinforces that.
The Chinese government has killed/tortured how many of their own people since then??
Why dont they build a 478 million yuan memorial for them?
Jeez.... I wonder why?
I stick by my get over it statements.
Learn from the past, and move on.
A majority of my grandfathers friends were killed when their ship was sunk by the Japanese.... he got over it.
They tried to invade Australia too. We are over it.
From what I can gather the Poms dont still hold a grudge against the Germans either.
No doubt there were many atrocities committed by Japanese soldiers during WWII.
That does not make all Japanese soldiers criminals.
Most of them were doing just as the soldiers of every nation involved were; fighting for their country. Nothing more.
Koizumi's visits to Yasukuni to which you (I assume) are referring, are no different to the leader of any other nation paying tribute to those who gave their lives for their countries.
"the attitude of Japan as a nation, their real feelings towards non Japanese, and their lack of remorse for past deeds"
What is Japans attitude, as a nation then?
Now in no way do the following cancel out what has occurred in the past, but surely they indicate an acceptance of responsibility.
- Japan is still paying compensation to China as a nation.
- Japan helped to fund South Koreas involvement in the World Cup.
(ie. Built their stadiums for them!)
Like I said, communication might well be the problem here.
The Japanese way of expressing emotion is very different to other cultures. Japanese men are often accused of not showing affection towards their lovers, but I can assure you that they are just as loving as anybody else.
Do you know what a Japanese person looks like when they are showing remorse?
Try knowing them and then see if you still think that they think what Japan did in the war was right.
"the Nanjing city government is planning to spend 478 million yuan to expand the Nanking Memorial"
Im not denying the incident, but surely you can see that it has and still is being distorted as propaganda by the Chinese government? The above only reinforces that.
The Chinese government has killed/tortured how many of their own people since then??
Why dont they build a 478 million yuan memorial for them?
Jeez.... I wonder why?
I stick by my get over it statements.
Learn from the past, and move on.
A majority of my grandfathers friends were killed when their ship was sunk by the Japanese.... he got over it.
They tried to invade Australia too. We are over it.
From what I can gather the Poms dont still hold a grudge against the Germans either.
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glekichi:
Your response is spirited and I will reply to the points you have raised many of which I do not agree with shortly (it is late at night here). However I specifically asked you about the Zionist and you have clearly dodged the issue. As you appear to have very positive ideas about why the Japanese should be forgiven I am disappointed you did not offer an explanation for what happened in Europe. The Zionist will never let the world forget and I think you know it. Why the diffrence ??
Prince of Dzun
Your response is spirited and I will reply to the points you have raised many of which I do not agree with shortly (it is late at night here). However I specifically asked you about the Zionist and you have clearly dodged the issue. As you appear to have very positive ideas about why the Japanese should be forgiven I am disappointed you did not offer an explanation for what happened in Europe. The Zionist will never let the world forget and I think you know it. Why the diffrence ??
Prince of Dzun
Accepted POD.....
I dont know enough about the zionists to know what exactly you are referring to.
Its complicated enough without involving religion mate.
Glekichi
I dont know enough about the zionists to know what exactly you are referring to.
Its complicated enough without involving religion mate.
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glekichi:
Who is talking about religion?? It certainly isn't me!! As I understand it the word Zion and Israel are one and the same but as I am no expert on these matters you could possibly prove me wrong.
Prince of Dzun
Who is talking about religion?? It certainly isn't me!! As I understand it the word Zion and Israel are one and the same but as I am no expert on these matters you could possibly prove me wrong.
Prince of Dzun
Zaionism is the belief in the religious right to a Jewish community in Israel/Palestine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
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Bit of information here too:
"Zionism, modern political movement for reconstituting a Jewish national state in Palestine.
Early Years
The rise of the Zionist movement in the late 19th cent. was influenced by nationalist currents in Europe, as well as by the secularization of Jewish life in Eastern Europe, which led many assimilated Jewish intellectuals to seek a new basis for a Jewish national life. One such individual was Theodor Herzl, a Viennese journalist who wrote The Jewish State (1896), calling for the formation of a Jewish nation state as a solution to the Diaspora and to anti-Semitism. In 1897 Herzl called the first World Zionist Congress at Basel, which brought together diverse proto-Zionist groups into one movement. The meeting helped found Zionist organizations in most countries with large Jewish populations.
The first issue to split the Zionist movement was whether Palestine was essential to a Jewish state. A majority of the delegates to the 1903 congress felt that it was essential and rejected the British offer of a homeland in Uganda. The opposition, the Territorialists led by Israel Zangwill, withdrew on the grounds that an immediate refuge for persecuted Jews was needed. Within the Zionist movement a broad range of perspectives developed, ranging from a synthesis of nationalism with traditional Jewish Orthodoxy (in the Mizrahi movement, founded 1902) to various combinations of Zionism with utopian and Marxist socialism.
The Balfour Declaration and Settlement in Palestine
After Herzl's death, the Zionist movement came under the leadership of Chaim Weizmann, who sought to reconcile the “practical” wing of the movement, which sought to further Jewish settlement in Palestine, and its “political” wing, which stressed the establishment of a Jewish state. Weizmann obtained few concessions from the Turkish sultan, who ruled Palestine; however, in 1917, Great Britain, then at war with Turkey, issued the Balfour Declaration (see Balfour, Arthur James), which promised to help establish a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. Great Britain was given a mandate of Palestine in 1920 by the League of Nations, in part to implement the Balfour Declaration.
Jewish colonization vastly increased in the early years of the mandate (see Palestine for the period up to 1948), but soon the British limited their interpretation of the declaration in the face of Arab pressure. There were disputes in the Zionist movement on how to counter the British position. The right-wing Revisionists, led by Vladimir Jabotinsky, favored large-scale immigration to Palestine to force the creation of a Jewish state. The most conciliatory faction was the General Zionists (representing the original national organizations), who generally remained friendly to Great Britain.
Since the Holocaust and Founding of Israel
After World War II the Zionist movement intensified its activities. The sufferings of the European Jews at the hands of the Germans demanded the opening of a refuge; the stiffening opposition of the Arabs increased the urgency. At this time the World Zionist Congress was divided, the Revisionists demanding all Palestine and the General Zionists reluctantly accepting the United Nations plan to partition Palestine (see Israel). After the Jewish state was proclaimed (May 14, 1948), the Zionist movement was forced to reevaluate its goals.
Against those who argued that the simple expression of support for Israel was sufficient for affiliation, the movement's 1968 Jerusalem Program defined the goal of personal migration to Israel as a requirement for membership. However, most Jews in the United States and other Western democracies seemed content to support the Zionist movement as a means of supporting Israel, without any personal commitment to living there. The Zionist movement today facilitates migration to Israel and supports Jewish cultural and educational activities in the diaspora."
Bibliography
See C. Weizmann, Trial and Error (1949, repr. 1972); I. Cohen, A Short History of Zionism (1951); B. Halpern, The Idea of the Jewish State (2d ed. 1969); W. Laqueur, A History of Zionism (1972); S. Avineri, The Making of Modern Zionism (1984); D. Vital, The Origins of Zionism (1980), Zionism: The Formative Years (1982), and Zionism: The Crucial Phase (1987); B. Morris, Righteous Victims (rev. ed. 2001).
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"Zionism, modern political movement for reconstituting a Jewish national state in Palestine.
Early Years
The rise of the Zionist movement in the late 19th cent. was influenced by nationalist currents in Europe, as well as by the secularization of Jewish life in Eastern Europe, which led many assimilated Jewish intellectuals to seek a new basis for a Jewish national life. One such individual was Theodor Herzl, a Viennese journalist who wrote The Jewish State (1896), calling for the formation of a Jewish nation state as a solution to the Diaspora and to anti-Semitism. In 1897 Herzl called the first World Zionist Congress at Basel, which brought together diverse proto-Zionist groups into one movement. The meeting helped found Zionist organizations in most countries with large Jewish populations.
The first issue to split the Zionist movement was whether Palestine was essential to a Jewish state. A majority of the delegates to the 1903 congress felt that it was essential and rejected the British offer of a homeland in Uganda. The opposition, the Territorialists led by Israel Zangwill, withdrew on the grounds that an immediate refuge for persecuted Jews was needed. Within the Zionist movement a broad range of perspectives developed, ranging from a synthesis of nationalism with traditional Jewish Orthodoxy (in the Mizrahi movement, founded 1902) to various combinations of Zionism with utopian and Marxist socialism.
The Balfour Declaration and Settlement in Palestine
After Herzl's death, the Zionist movement came under the leadership of Chaim Weizmann, who sought to reconcile the “practical” wing of the movement, which sought to further Jewish settlement in Palestine, and its “political” wing, which stressed the establishment of a Jewish state. Weizmann obtained few concessions from the Turkish sultan, who ruled Palestine; however, in 1917, Great Britain, then at war with Turkey, issued the Balfour Declaration (see Balfour, Arthur James), which promised to help establish a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. Great Britain was given a mandate of Palestine in 1920 by the League of Nations, in part to implement the Balfour Declaration.
Jewish colonization vastly increased in the early years of the mandate (see Palestine for the period up to 1948), but soon the British limited their interpretation of the declaration in the face of Arab pressure. There were disputes in the Zionist movement on how to counter the British position. The right-wing Revisionists, led by Vladimir Jabotinsky, favored large-scale immigration to Palestine to force the creation of a Jewish state. The most conciliatory faction was the General Zionists (representing the original national organizations), who generally remained friendly to Great Britain.
Since the Holocaust and Founding of Israel
After World War II the Zionist movement intensified its activities. The sufferings of the European Jews at the hands of the Germans demanded the opening of a refuge; the stiffening opposition of the Arabs increased the urgency. At this time the World Zionist Congress was divided, the Revisionists demanding all Palestine and the General Zionists reluctantly accepting the United Nations plan to partition Palestine (see Israel). After the Jewish state was proclaimed (May 14, 1948), the Zionist movement was forced to reevaluate its goals.
Against those who argued that the simple expression of support for Israel was sufficient for affiliation, the movement's 1968 Jerusalem Program defined the goal of personal migration to Israel as a requirement for membership. However, most Jews in the United States and other Western democracies seemed content to support the Zionist movement as a means of supporting Israel, without any personal commitment to living there. The Zionist movement today facilitates migration to Israel and supports Jewish cultural and educational activities in the diaspora."
Bibliography
See C. Weizmann, Trial and Error (1949, repr. 1972); I. Cohen, A Short History of Zionism (1951); B. Halpern, The Idea of the Jewish State (2d ed. 1969); W. Laqueur, A History of Zionism (1972); S. Avineri, The Making of Modern Zionism (1984); D. Vital, The Origins of Zionism (1980), Zionism: The Formative Years (1982), and Zionism: The Crucial Phase (1987); B. Morris, Righteous Victims (rev. ed. 2001).
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BlueEagle and glekichi:
I ploughed through all that information you put up and found it very interesting. It woud seem that what I said about Zionism being Israel is wrong. As I now understand it an Israeli is most likely a Zionist but a Zionist is not necessarily an Israeli. It certainly is a complicated subject and perhaps one that should be left to those involved.
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I am still standing by for an answer to my simple question "why the difference" meaning why should we be expected to forget what happened in Asia when the Israelis will never let the world forget what happened in Europe?
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I ploughed through all that information you put up and found it very interesting. It woud seem that what I said about Zionism being Israel is wrong. As I now understand it an Israeli is most likely a Zionist but a Zionist is not necessarily an Israeli. It certainly is a complicated subject and perhaps one that should be left to those involved.
glekichi:
I am still standing by for an answer to my simple question "why the difference" meaning why should we be expected to forget what happened in Asia when the Israelis will never let the world forget what happened in Europe?
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In Europe the Nazis are blamed. Present day Germans are not considered Nazis.
In Asia present day Japanese are still hated as if they were the warmongers. Most Japanese nowadays are much more peaceful, just like Germans nowadays. However the Germans are allowed to move on from their past, whereas as the Japanese are not. Multiple apologies and huge ongoing aid seems to be ignored but still required. Most of the Japanese population alive now were not alive during the war. In Europe it is generally accepted that people need to move on, and that those that were not alive during the war cannot be to blame, and should not be hated now. It is unfortunate that this does not seem to be possible in Asia.
In Asia present day Japanese are still hated as if they were the warmongers. Most Japanese nowadays are much more peaceful, just like Germans nowadays. However the Germans are allowed to move on from their past, whereas as the Japanese are not. Multiple apologies and huge ongoing aid seems to be ignored but still required. Most of the Japanese population alive now were not alive during the war. In Europe it is generally accepted that people need to move on, and that those that were not alive during the war cannot be to blame, and should not be hated now. It is unfortunate that this does not seem to be possible in Asia.
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The first Boeing 737NG operated by a Japanese airline - All Nippon Airways (ANA) - is painted in gold and white, instead of the usual blue and white.
The photo below was taken on the morning of Saturday, December 24 (2005) at Chubu Centrair Airport, Nagoya, following unusually heavy snow falls the previous couple of days that saw Chubu closed for several hours.
The photo below was taken on the morning of Saturday, December 24 (2005) at Chubu Centrair Airport, Nagoya, following unusually heavy snow falls the previous couple of days that saw Chubu closed for several hours.
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Shame what has happened to this post...Seems that typical pprune bashing drives everyone away from some helpful information.
Are we still on this whole world war 2 issue? NZLeardriver said it best in his last post...
Isreal? I have read this entire post over and over and I still can't make the connection. Prince please stop looking for something that isnt there...you have lost me on more than one post!
Japan is a magical country! Give me the chance and I'll be back there flying (this time) in a heartbeat.
You dont like it la, come back to Malaysia and take my job....
Are we still on this whole world war 2 issue? NZLeardriver said it best in his last post...
Isreal? I have read this entire post over and over and I still can't make the connection. Prince please stop looking for something that isnt there...you have lost me on more than one post!
Japan is a magical country! Give me the chance and I'll be back there flying (this time) in a heartbeat.
You dont like it la, come back to Malaysia and take my job....
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Gentlemen, your interview technique SUCKS!
I've seen it with my own eyes, and heard about it from other pilots.
If you really DO hope to score a job here in Japan (or elsewhere), here are a few do NOTs to remember....
* Do NOT wear "loud" shirts, ties, or trousers. They might have cost you a lot of $$$'s, but they make the WRONG statement at interview time.
A simple suit, with a white, or pastel coloured (matching, as opposed to clashing) shirt, is the preferred attire.
* Do NOT wear suede shoes - they look too much like unpolished leather shoes. Buffed shoes are the way to go.
* Do NOT cross your legs/slouch in the chair.
* Do NOT try to b.s with your flight times. The Japanese are very thorough and particular in this area. JCAB have cancelled check flights before they begin, because of discrepancies of only 2 or 3 minutes!
And some DO's....
* DO try to have a knowledge of some of the basic customs - a bow, as well as a handshake on introduction, is an indication to THEM that YOU are somewhat familiar with Japanese customs, and willing to accept their way.
* DO try to learn a couple of basic words/phrases....Hajimema****e (Haj-ee-may-mash-te....pleased to meet you), is a good starter.
It does seem somewhat strange to have to highlight the foregoing, but there are some guys who undoubtedly qualify for the job, but put THEMSELVES out of contention.
I've seen it with my own eyes, and heard about it from other pilots.
If you really DO hope to score a job here in Japan (or elsewhere), here are a few do NOTs to remember....
* Do NOT wear "loud" shirts, ties, or trousers. They might have cost you a lot of $$$'s, but they make the WRONG statement at interview time.
A simple suit, with a white, or pastel coloured (matching, as opposed to clashing) shirt, is the preferred attire.
* Do NOT wear suede shoes - they look too much like unpolished leather shoes. Buffed shoes are the way to go.
* Do NOT cross your legs/slouch in the chair.
* Do NOT try to b.s with your flight times. The Japanese are very thorough and particular in this area. JCAB have cancelled check flights before they begin, because of discrepancies of only 2 or 3 minutes!
And some DO's....
* DO try to have a knowledge of some of the basic customs - a bow, as well as a handshake on introduction, is an indication to THEM that YOU are somewhat familiar with Japanese customs, and willing to accept their way.
* DO try to learn a couple of basic words/phrases....Hajimema****e (Haj-ee-may-mash-te....pleased to meet you), is a good starter.
It does seem somewhat strange to have to highlight the foregoing, but there are some guys who undoubtedly qualify for the job, but put THEMSELVES out of contention.
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Hiding the Truth
An interesting report has just been published by the International Crisis Group (a think tank organisation concerned with international disputes) entitled "Northeast Asia's Undercurrents of Conflict". The report states amongst other things that quote" America should release all documents relating to Japanese war crimes" unquote. It the USA is hiding information that the world should know about then perhaps it's time someone started asking questions.
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The honesty of the Japanese is legendary at a personal level. When it comes to big business and politics it's something else. The head of one of the railway companies was indicted some time back for embezzling 180 billion yen.
I read recently that the IRCJ (the government organization that revitalizes ailing companies using private funding), appointed to 'assist' Sky Net down in Miyazaki, and the supposed saviour of the cosmetic company Kanebo, had been falsifying the financial reports for Kanebo for five years. They'd been telling the investors, smaller private banks mostly, that the company was healthy and showing good profits, but had been making losses.
Legends indeed, rather than legendar indeed!!
I read recently that the IRCJ (the government organization that revitalizes ailing companies using private funding), appointed to 'assist' Sky Net down in Miyazaki, and the supposed saviour of the cosmetic company Kanebo, had been falsifying the financial reports for Kanebo for five years. They'd been telling the investors, smaller private banks mostly, that the company was healthy and showing good profits, but had been making losses.
Legends indeed, rather than legendar indeed!!
Come on JapJok... did u seriously expect that all 125 million Japanese people were so honest that there would be no fraud in the country....?
Maybe you think higher of the Japanese people than you show...
Dissapointing as it may be, Japan is like any other country.
PS. The IRCJ is a publically listed company, not a government organization.
Maybe you think higher of the Japanese people than you show...
Dissapointing as it may be, Japan is like any other country.
PS. The IRCJ is a publically listed company, not a government organization.
