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Seletar Flying Club
Hi Guys,
Anyone here had any experience picking up PPL lessons with Seletar Flying Club?
Am thinking of joining.
Is there any better alternative to get PPL in Singapore?
Please advice.
Thanks....
Anyone here had any experience picking up PPL lessons with Seletar Flying Club?
Am thinking of joining.
Is there any better alternative to get PPL in Singapore?
Please advice.
Thanks....
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Aren't you waiting on SIA's reply after your first interview?
Taking lessons in Seletar is really expensive. Even before your first lesson, you'd have to put down a hefty deposit, plus some misc fees, amounting to a few thousand dollars. If you want that PPL, it'll be much cheaper in M'sia. IIRC, a PPL in M'sia will cost about S$8000, while in s'pore, the PPL will cost more than twice as much. Moreover, in s'pore, you'd have to be content with a tiny and crowded training area.
If you just want something to impress the interviewers with, a good alternative would be to simply go for a familiarisation flight with the flying club. It will cost you about S$400 for an hour's flight inclusive of other fees like a day pass, instructor fees etc.
If you're still keen on taking your PPL in s'pore, then I'd say go for it, even if SIA takes you in before you actually complete the course. The extra hours would certainly help you, and such an investment will never go to waste.
Taking lessons in Seletar is really expensive. Even before your first lesson, you'd have to put down a hefty deposit, plus some misc fees, amounting to a few thousand dollars. If you want that PPL, it'll be much cheaper in M'sia. IIRC, a PPL in M'sia will cost about S$8000, while in s'pore, the PPL will cost more than twice as much. Moreover, in s'pore, you'd have to be content with a tiny and crowded training area.
If you just want something to impress the interviewers with, a good alternative would be to simply go for a familiarisation flight with the flying club. It will cost you about S$400 for an hour's flight inclusive of other fees like a day pass, instructor fees etc.
If you're still keen on taking your PPL in s'pore, then I'd say go for it, even if SIA takes you in before you actually complete the course. The extra hours would certainly help you, and such an investment will never go to waste.
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The CFI in Seletar has a very good reputation in the region.He has trained several PPL's who has gone on to drive for SQ,CX and 1st Singaporean female pilot in Mi.
I think training in a crowded area [Seletar] is great for increasing SA, and also the intense radio environment will give you a good grounding.And who says you have to stick in the area, Nav Ex takes you up to WMKM.
With regards to WMKJ, Asked around and try to find out what happened to 4 beautiful Cessna's in 3 years. I.e they converted all the C 172 to retractables!
I think training in a crowded area [Seletar] is great for increasing SA, and also the intense radio environment will give you a good grounding.And who says you have to stick in the area, Nav Ex takes you up to WMKM.
With regards to WMKJ, Asked around and try to find out what happened to 4 beautiful Cessna's in 3 years. I.e they converted all the C 172 to retractables!
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i am currently training in SFC, the FI is okay, but the club is kinda busy so have to book early. The other alternative is Republic of Singapore flying club,their planes are about half the age of the cessna 172 used by SFC but they cost more and over the long run accumulates to a considerable sum. But you can be assured of quality training here in Singapore, and relatively well mantained planes. Airspace is tight but as the previous post mentioned it sharpens your situational awarness. IF you have the time to travel back and forth to Sultan Ismail then by all means learn to fly in Johor.
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Hi Knight,
Yeah, unfortunately I did not make it thru the 1st interview.
Basically, I think I had not shown enough passion for flying to the interviewers.
Nevertheless, I will not give up still...
In fact, I had ask the HR if I am able to re-apply again.
The answer is 6 mths. And guess the next opening probably will be ard the last quarter. So meanwhile trying to pick something.
I used to fly in Seletar (during my Airforce time), so am quite familiar with the training area and the procedure. Like wat you have mentioned, watever it is, such investment will never gone to waste. Even if I still didnt make it for my next selection, I will just treat it for personal interest then and prob will do flying for leisure.
Mooney - Thanks for the info.
Bravo - Please ignore my previous mail to you at the "PPL at Seletar" thread.
I had my answer already. BTW, SFC is really Ex...
And Guys,
Should I have not had the chance to fulfill my dream as a Pilot, I am planning to switch my industry and have a career in the Aviation Industry.
Being having an engineering dip. and no experience in the aviation ind.
Any advice for me if I want to prospect toward that direction? (ie. Studies, kind of job to start off with?)
Cheers!!!
Yeah, unfortunately I did not make it thru the 1st interview.
Basically, I think I had not shown enough passion for flying to the interviewers.
Nevertheless, I will not give up still...
In fact, I had ask the HR if I am able to re-apply again.
The answer is 6 mths. And guess the next opening probably will be ard the last quarter. So meanwhile trying to pick something.
I used to fly in Seletar (during my Airforce time), so am quite familiar with the training area and the procedure. Like wat you have mentioned, watever it is, such investment will never gone to waste. Even if I still didnt make it for my next selection, I will just treat it for personal interest then and prob will do flying for leisure.
Mooney - Thanks for the info.
Bravo - Please ignore my previous mail to you at the "PPL at Seletar" thread.
I had my answer already. BTW, SFC is really Ex...
And Guys,
Should I have not had the chance to fulfill my dream as a Pilot, I am planning to switch my industry and have a career in the Aviation Industry.
Being having an engineering dip. and no experience in the aviation ind.
Any advice for me if I want to prospect toward that direction? (ie. Studies, kind of job to start off with?)
Cheers!!!
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As im going for my lasik soon, i can onli apply for SQ cadet pilot a year later. So in the mean time, am planning to take up flying lessons at either SFC or RSFC soon.
Will acquiring this license help my chances during the selection phase for cadet pilots?
Will acquiring this license help my chances during the selection phase for cadet pilots?
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SnoopDogg - Think very carefully about having Lasik. If you go to the Fragrant Harbour forum and use the search function, just type in Lasik, you will see that CX/HKG CAA don't approve. Have you checked to see if the CAAS allow Lasik for initial issue of licence? Don't want to alarm you but generally, in aviation, Lasik is not recommended.
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Hi BlueEagle, appreciate your concerns with regards to this.
Im also keeping my fingers crossed as I've always wanted to be a pilot, except for my shortsightedness (>500).
Have asked around (friends in the cadet scheme, searched forums), from what I gathered so far, seems like CAAS/SQ treats Lasik cases on a case by case basis, and the general consent is that 1 year after the Lasik, they might consider your application. So for me, although it might be a long shot, is a risk worth taking in order to fulfil my lifelong ambition.
And I was thinking of taking private flying lessons, which I hope will boost my chances in being selected too. Anyone knows if this will help?
Im also keeping my fingers crossed as I've always wanted to be a pilot, except for my shortsightedness (>500).
Have asked around (friends in the cadet scheme, searched forums), from what I gathered so far, seems like CAAS/SQ treats Lasik cases on a case by case basis, and the general consent is that 1 year after the Lasik, they might consider your application. So for me, although it might be a long shot, is a risk worth taking in order to fulfil my lifelong ambition.
And I was thinking of taking private flying lessons, which I hope will boost my chances in being selected too. Anyone knows if this will help?
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SnoopDogg,
I did ever post this question to the flying school.
The reply was the success rate of their student getting into SIA is high.
But I dun think it is adviceable to think that you will get thru the selection for sure if you are PPL holder. Probably allow you to stand out from the rest of the thousands applicants.
It might help during the intitial phase of selection but the rest will depend alot on yourself.
Cheers,
D2...
I did ever post this question to the flying school.
The reply was the success rate of their student getting into SIA is high.
But I dun think it is adviceable to think that you will get thru the selection for sure if you are PPL holder. Probably allow you to stand out from the rest of the thousands applicants.
It might help during the intitial phase of selection but the rest will depend alot on yourself.
Cheers,
D2...
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Hi D2,
Thanks for the reply.
Have you decided on your flying school, or started your lessons yet?
I'm still saving up for the initial registration fee and deposit lol. Am very interested in learning to fly.
Yup I know cannot expect that having a PPL will guarantee a passage into SIA.
Thanks for the reply.
Have you decided on your flying school, or started your lessons yet?
I'm still saving up for the initial registration fee and deposit lol. Am very interested in learning to fly.
Yup I know cannot expect that having a PPL will guarantee a passage into SIA.
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have you guys try to get a DCA PPL then convert back to CAAS PPL, from what i heard the CAAS lic is really useless unless u want to join SQ,and wat u need to do for the convertion is just get the medical,then take the Air Law and the flight test. so maybe Johor is a better and cheaper option,btw i got my PPL there and still have fun of flying to different place in MY.
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Seletar FC and RSFC
Hi guys,
I have a PPL and it was done with RSFC. Yeah I agree that training in Singapore is indeed costly but I am in the opinion that the training is of a rather high standard. Also, with the kiasu mentality of CAAS, the aircraft are put through very stringent checks frequently to ensure airworthiness. In fact, the ELTs (Emergency Locator Transmitter) that the clubs were forced to install in the aircraft recently are of like airline standards. I hear that the device will transmit the aircraft registration as well as broadcast SARBE (Search And Rescue BEacon) signals in the event of a crash.. Hmm.. to me it's a rather extravagant waste of money.. but I guess when the authority says so, we all have to comply. Ok I have digressed but what I was trying to say here is that the aircraft registered in 9V (Singapore registration) are all very stringently enforced in terms of maintenance.. In fact in my personal opinion, too much for the good of General Aviation. It therefore costs more money becos you are getting safer aircraft to fly and more well trained instructors teach you. So I guess it's a case of what you pay is what you get.
Not trying to put anyone down but if you ask around about the safety track record of some of the flying clubs around the region, you will discover that there hasn't been a major mishap with the clubs in Singapore for a very long while already while the same cannot be said of the others.
It's also true that traffic and situational awareness will be well horned after training in Singapore. Since the airspace is limited and Seletar Airport can be real busy at times, it follows that being trained in Singapore forces you to have the habit of watching and listening out for other aircraft (really important to have to be a well-rounded pilot) incalcated into you so much so that is is ingrained and comes as second nature.
Lastly, while I think that it is expensive to take up flying lessons, it does paint a picture that you are really interested and serious abt flying. Even if you do not complete your PPL, it gives you a good grounding and indication of what is to be expected during the initial part of your training. I guess you can do this training while waiting for SIA to accept you as a cadet pilot. Once they do, you can always stop your own training and continue with College. Alternatively, if you are thinking of a familiarisation flight, it costs about S$280/hr in RSFC the last I checked. If anyone wants to know more about Singapore PPL or the flying clubs in Singapore or Johore, PM me and I may be able to provide some personal insights. Cheers and happy flying!
I have a PPL and it was done with RSFC. Yeah I agree that training in Singapore is indeed costly but I am in the opinion that the training is of a rather high standard. Also, with the kiasu mentality of CAAS, the aircraft are put through very stringent checks frequently to ensure airworthiness. In fact, the ELTs (Emergency Locator Transmitter) that the clubs were forced to install in the aircraft recently are of like airline standards. I hear that the device will transmit the aircraft registration as well as broadcast SARBE (Search And Rescue BEacon) signals in the event of a crash.. Hmm.. to me it's a rather extravagant waste of money.. but I guess when the authority says so, we all have to comply. Ok I have digressed but what I was trying to say here is that the aircraft registered in 9V (Singapore registration) are all very stringently enforced in terms of maintenance.. In fact in my personal opinion, too much for the good of General Aviation. It therefore costs more money becos you are getting safer aircraft to fly and more well trained instructors teach you. So I guess it's a case of what you pay is what you get.
Not trying to put anyone down but if you ask around about the safety track record of some of the flying clubs around the region, you will discover that there hasn't been a major mishap with the clubs in Singapore for a very long while already while the same cannot be said of the others.
It's also true that traffic and situational awareness will be well horned after training in Singapore. Since the airspace is limited and Seletar Airport can be real busy at times, it follows that being trained in Singapore forces you to have the habit of watching and listening out for other aircraft (really important to have to be a well-rounded pilot) incalcated into you so much so that is is ingrained and comes as second nature.
Lastly, while I think that it is expensive to take up flying lessons, it does paint a picture that you are really interested and serious abt flying. Even if you do not complete your PPL, it gives you a good grounding and indication of what is to be expected during the initial part of your training. I guess you can do this training while waiting for SIA to accept you as a cadet pilot. Once they do, you can always stop your own training and continue with College. Alternatively, if you are thinking of a familiarisation flight, it costs about S$280/hr in RSFC the last I checked. If anyone wants to know more about Singapore PPL or the flying clubs in Singapore or Johore, PM me and I may be able to provide some personal insights. Cheers and happy flying!
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2 Lasik or not 2 Lasik
SnoopDogg, please listen very carefully to what Blue Eagle has to say about Lasik.
My advise is be careful as to which pundit you listen to. I would suggest the only ‘safe’ course of action is to get a written opinion from the Chairman of the Civil Aviation Medical Board of CAAS, before you go for surgery. At least then you can make an appropriate decision regarding your future based on the facts and not ‘bar talk’.
Good luck!
My advise is be careful as to which pundit you listen to. I would suggest the only ‘safe’ course of action is to get a written opinion from the Chairman of the Civil Aviation Medical Board of CAAS, before you go for surgery. At least then you can make an appropriate decision regarding your future based on the facts and not ‘bar talk’.
Good luck!
