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Anybody that have gone for the singapore flying college... can you tell me how is your life there? Like is that really true that the drop out rate is high or something? Thanks.
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Hi 777_my
Sorry if you haven't had quite the answers you were hoping for so far!!!
I have been lucky enough to enjoy over thirty six years in professional flying so if you don't mind I'll offer a few words that are just my thoughts, nothing else.
1. Don't even stop to think about 'drop-out' rates, they vary from course to course, some will lose, say, 50% and others maybe 5%,
all you have to do is make sure that you are in the MAJORITY, that shouldn't be too difficult as most of us can fall into that category without even trying!
K:
2. Singapore is what you choose to make it. As a cadet it won't be easy, life isn't like that. If what you are striving for is worth having then you must expect a few lumps and bumps on the way. SIA may make a point of stressing your position at an early stage but as you climb the ladder you will understand that when you reach the top the effort has been worthwhile, you will have learned, above all else, what it is to have responsibility on your shoulders.
Best of luck in your endeavours, some of the people who post here on PPRuNe have already failed and others gave up before they tried so don't take as Gospel all that you read!
regards,
Blue Eagle - Moderator.
I have been lucky enough to enjoy over thirty six years in professional flying so if you don't mind I'll offer a few words that are just my thoughts, nothing else.
1. Don't even stop to think about 'drop-out' rates, they vary from course to course, some will lose, say, 50% and others maybe 5%,
all you have to do is make sure that you are in the MAJORITY, that shouldn't be too difficult as most of us can fall into that category without even trying!
K: 2. Singapore is what you choose to make it. As a cadet it won't be easy, life isn't like that. If what you are striving for is worth having then you must expect a few lumps and bumps on the way. SIA may make a point of stressing your position at an early stage but as you climb the ladder you will understand that when you reach the top the effort has been worthwhile, you will have learned, above all else, what it is to have responsibility on your shoulders.
Best of luck in your endeavours, some of the people who post here on PPRuNe have already failed and others gave up before they tried so don't take as Gospel all that you read!
regards,
Blue Eagle - Moderator.
B777_my,
I have had the opportunity to see cadet programs from China, Singapore, and Malaysia.
None of the programs are easy, they are trying to teach you in a relatively short period of time skills and knowledge that will keep you and your passengers alive for the rest of your life.
You will need to apply yourself, however it is essential you work as a team with your fellow cadets, learning checklists, procedures, and theory.
The learning curve will initially seem insurmountable, however you will derive much personal satisfaction when you complete significant milestones like going solo.
I would think the drop out rate you mention would be in the initial phases, where people will be excluded for medical reasons, and consistent failures in theory examinations. I understand that SQ will give you 3 attempts at the exams. If you work as a team with your fellow cadets it is possible.
Good luck, think of the 80%+ that pass !!!
I have had the opportunity to see cadet programs from China, Singapore, and Malaysia.
None of the programs are easy, they are trying to teach you in a relatively short period of time skills and knowledge that will keep you and your passengers alive for the rest of your life.
You will need to apply yourself, however it is essential you work as a team with your fellow cadets, learning checklists, procedures, and theory.
The learning curve will initially seem insurmountable, however you will derive much personal satisfaction when you complete significant milestones like going solo.
I would think the drop out rate you mention would be in the initial phases, where people will be excluded for medical reasons, and consistent failures in theory examinations. I understand that SQ will give you 3 attempts at the exams. If you work as a team with your fellow cadets it is possible.
Good luck, think of the 80%+ that pass !!!
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Hi There,
Life at SFC is not as bad as what people say if you know what to expect, what is expected of you and what the company is investing in you.
The ATPL theory stage can be quite taxing mentally. You will be required to sit for 14 papers within a period of six months and it is not an easy task. Its a little bit like going back to university and staying in the hostel. For six months, all you'll do is study theory, understand concepts and apply them to questions. Many have gone through it and in the past one year, there were only 2 or 3 who did not make the grade (out of 100+ cadets).
With regards to the admin staff and teachers, its just like working with people anywhere else. If you're nice to them, they'll be nice to you. Nothing special and definitely no special boot licking required. They are there to facilitate your studies and will not go out of their way to make life difficult for you.
Let me know if you have any more questions and I will try to answer them.
Cheers
GhosRider
Life at SFC is not as bad as what people say if you know what to expect, what is expected of you and what the company is investing in you.
The ATPL theory stage can be quite taxing mentally. You will be required to sit for 14 papers within a period of six months and it is not an easy task. Its a little bit like going back to university and staying in the hostel. For six months, all you'll do is study theory, understand concepts and apply them to questions. Many have gone through it and in the past one year, there were only 2 or 3 who did not make the grade (out of 100+ cadets).
With regards to the admin staff and teachers, its just like working with people anywhere else. If you're nice to them, they'll be nice to you. Nothing special and definitely no special boot licking required. They are there to facilitate your studies and will not go out of their way to make life difficult for you.
Let me know if you have any more questions and I will try to answer them.
Cheers
GhosRider
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Hello guys,
I understand that the Seletar stage is a residential program that requires cadets to stay in through the week. Would be great if there are cadets out there who can kindly give us an honest insight of how is life in this school, from the mundane daily tasks to the classroom scene.
Wonder what days are you allowed to go home, also wonder how much the pay is for a Cadet Pilot. I heard its on the low side.
I understand that the Seletar stage is a residential program that requires cadets to stay in through the week. Would be great if there are cadets out there who can kindly give us an honest insight of how is life in this school, from the mundane daily tasks to the classroom scene.
Wonder what days are you allowed to go home, also wonder how much the pay is for a Cadet Pilot. I heard its on the low side.
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pay is $1200 if u r graduate, $900 for diploma holders
you are not allowed to go home, but then u can if you are able to get back early enough to avoid being caught by the instructors. usually reach there by 7.15 and you are safe.
Life there, well, just like in school where u have nice teachers and fierce teachers, instructors there are also a mix of nice and fierce. you'll do 20 hours single engine, then the rest all theory studies for your ATPL.
you are not allowed to go home, but then u can if you are able to get back early enough to avoid being caught by the instructors. usually reach there by 7.15 and you are safe.
Life there, well, just like in school where u have nice teachers and fierce teachers, instructors there are also a mix of nice and fierce. you'll do 20 hours single engine, then the rest all theory studies for your ATPL.
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Thanks SQ111.
Wow, the pay is indeed low, hard to imagine how one can survive with such a pay, even during training stage. Also, what do cadets do over the weekend then, if u are not allowed to go home? life must be rather stressful if you don't see outside world at all.
Well, I guess thats the price people will pay to fly today i suppose.
Wow, the pay is indeed low, hard to imagine how one can survive with such a pay, even during training stage. Also, what do cadets do over the weekend then, if u are not allowed to go home? life must be rather stressful if you don't see outside world at all.
Well, I guess thats the price people will pay to fly today i suppose.
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Hi guys,
Very interesting post. I'm currently with massey uni, about to complete my degree and also flight training.
I have to agree that the initial learning curve is almost impossible to follow, but as our foundation, both theory and handling skills, improves, things will fall into place very nicely for most.
I myself am not a very quick learner, often have to do double the learning of what my classmates does, but it is still possible to be on par with due diligence.
Over here, we have the comfort of spreading the theory and flying into 3 years, unlike over in SFC. However, previous SFC courses have proven it to be possible to achieve, and so can you.
Keep your dreams, goals and desire alive, and they will propel you forward. There will be many moments during the course of training where you will question yourself about your decision, capabilities and personal limitations. Learn to understand yourself better, identify and thus improve on weaknesses.
Look forward only to the next nearest milestone. Eventually you'll reach your dream. (psss.. I'm trying to psycho myself here for extra motivation for the coming singapore ATPL next April!
)
I'm no pro or old timer.. just think everyone needs a pat on the back once in awhile. 80% or 5%... forget about these figures... it is all about you!
Cheers...
Very interesting post. I'm currently with massey uni, about to complete my degree and also flight training.
I have to agree that the initial learning curve is almost impossible to follow, but as our foundation, both theory and handling skills, improves, things will fall into place very nicely for most.
I myself am not a very quick learner, often have to do double the learning of what my classmates does, but it is still possible to be on par with due diligence.
Over here, we have the comfort of spreading the theory and flying into 3 years, unlike over in SFC. However, previous SFC courses have proven it to be possible to achieve, and so can you.
Keep your dreams, goals and desire alive, and they will propel you forward. There will be many moments during the course of training where you will question yourself about your decision, capabilities and personal limitations. Learn to understand yourself better, identify and thus improve on weaknesses.
Look forward only to the next nearest milestone. Eventually you'll reach your dream. (psss.. I'm trying to psycho myself here for extra motivation for the coming singapore ATPL next April!
) I'm no pro or old timer.. just think everyone needs a pat on the back once in awhile. 80% or 5%... forget about these figures... it is all about you! Cheers...
