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Old 6th Oct 2004, 22:59
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There is a rumor going around that now you have to do a real flight on the ac with the Thai DCA in order to convert your type rating if you don't have any time on type. Does anyone else hear anything about this???
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I know an O.T. F/O that was recently denied a validisation because he didn't have any time on type. Riding with the Thai authorities wasn't an option. The answer was NO. I don't know what their current ad says, but it appears the situation has taken a turn for the worse. No time on type means no validisation. A type rating received in the sim won't get you a job here unless you have some time in an actual plane.
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If that is the case then there will be a few more NOs in another month as there are a couple guys doing their type right now who are going to O/T with no time on type.
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Danger

Guys,

Read my previous post if its not your last sex romp before you die then stay clear of this joint.

BKK 6000THB what a load of puke

The machines (seem a bit of a worry)

The operation questionable, the loads stink and the planes are parked most of the time especially the 74's

The fares up and down trying to compete with the other players and quite frankly you don't have to be Einstien to see that there is no yield. (just go count pax and look at the fares)

Where the cash is coming from well who knows !!!???!!!

Perhaps it should be called DODGEY AIR.

BTW WHY WOULD ANYBODY WORK THERE WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY JOBS AVAILABLE WORLD WIDE FOR REAL AIRLINES PAYING REAL MONEY. GO FIGURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wooblah.
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Old 17th Oct 2004, 02:34
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Does anybody else hvae any updates where the Thai DCA stands on this and how much experecnce on type they actually want?

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Old 17th Oct 2004, 17:59
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Everytime you contact them you will get a different answer. It's still all up in the air.
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Old 18th Oct 2004, 23:52
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This just confirms what everyone on this particular topic has been stating for some time about this oufit !!!!!

"Enough Said"


A Thai charter plane veered off course while approaching Tokyo's Haneda Airport last month, almost hitting the Tokyo Tower, a well-known landmark in the Japanese capital, a newspaper said on Monday.

The Orient Thai charter jumbo jet came within 200 metres (656 ft) of striking the tower, a 333 metre (1,093 ft) high copy of the Eiffel Tower, when it veered to the north during the final stages of its approach to Haneda just after midnight on September 19, the Mainichi Shimbun said.

There were no passengers on the plane, a Boeing 747-200 that was to depart for the Thai resort island of Phuket, a popular destination for Japanese tourists, after picking up passengers at Haneda.

Orient Thai airlines said the plane's captain had failed to explain to his crew the content of a manual on landing at Haneda, the Mainichi said. The captain is to be suspended, the paper reported the company as saying.

"The plane appears to have come near Tokyo Tower, but we don't know exactly how low it was flying at that point," a Transport Ministry official said.

"This has never happened before, and we would like to know the reason," he added.

(Reuters)
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Old 19th Oct 2004, 09:27
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everytime i go to bkk i seem to hear another horror story about this mob, i'm simply amazed they haven't been either closed down or restricted as to where they can operate. by any account any best practices that seem to have evolved in our industry are by and large disregarded there. i understand guys longtime furloughed from usa going there but why would anyone else?
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"i understand guys longtime furloughed from usa going there but why would anyone else?"

Time on type, possibility of a "quick command", get current again - anything that will enable some to bs their way to a decent job.

Sorry guys, employers are now aware of this company, and how some of you might try to use it.
Do not waste your time, money and effort.
You may well find yourself in a worse position, than if you had NOT gone there.
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Old 24th Oct 2004, 11:06
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Yeah its a shame foreign worker. I would love to relocate up there due personal reasons but not for that hassle.
Regards,
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Wow, what a thread.

Started with a simple question (not a kiss like the song says).

Got a kiss though, a Glaswegian one.

Has OT got OTT?

Obviously brings out the best in people!

Greatings from 'gorgeous Utarra' Bangladesh (don't ask).

Whatever you fly and wherever you are - do it carefully.

Regards DD
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Old 25th Oct 2004, 16:54
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hi, i'd like to know if orient thai is doing the hajj for anyone this year. what are their plans this hajj and are they expanding their services in the winter schedule.

would appreciate if someone could let me know

thanks
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Old 26th Oct 2004, 02:15
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It looks like they finally updated their website. No mention of needing pilots anymore.
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Old 27th Oct 2004, 17:05
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who are they doing the hajj for this year or is it that they have no hajj contract. they just put an add on climbto350 yesterday for current and qualified 747 crew (urgent). i wonder why they want crew so urgent.
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Old 28th Oct 2004, 00:07
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Few people are willing to accept what they are offering and I hear there are quite a few people leaving also.
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just back from my my most recent bangkok jolly and i can confirm that there is a great great deal of unhappiness with the chaps at this mob now, reasons are vast, but largely covered on these forums. guys are already either leaving or in the process of
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Old 3rd Nov 2004, 00:18
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Well, that explains the urgent posting on climbto350.com
Only time will tell what will happen to them.
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I think you guys are missing the whole point.

People don't work for Orient Thai. I thought it was just a good excuse to live and play in Thailand.

To expect more would be an act of futilism...
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Old 10th Nov 2004, 09:14
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taikonaut, unless you're on a wind up you're missing the point matey. most professional pilots still have financial obligations in whichever country they originate/live. anyway i just heard 3 pilots have resigned, or left. you see having a laugh in bkk on rubbish money only lasts so long.
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Red face

Not a wind up mate. Used to work for them when they were just a scumbag operations. But we all knew what we were getting ourselves into flying from one war zone to another in a couple of broken TriStars.

Unfortunately it still is a scumbag outfit disguised as an airline with nicely painted aircraft. The maintainance has not changed. The mentality of the management has not changed. There is not one original crew (Orient Express, Kampuchea) left (last one left in 2001).

It was fun while it lasted. and it lasted for as long as it could. None of us expect much from it except as mentioned above. Just an excuse to have a good time. Some were low time jet pilots, some were no time pilots who wanted to fly a jet, some were retired from the majors and just looking for good times before they hang up their wings, some were just losers with nowhere elses to go. But we all knew the company's limitaions. You just can't bleed a crab and we knew that.

Get what you came for and get out. If they can't give you what you want then don't go there.

If you have financial obligations then bite the bullet mate. We have all been there trying to make ends meet. No one put a gun up to anyone's head. If one don't like it then one leaves. Period.

Don't let the shiny paint job fool you...
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