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Come on Topman!
I would appreciate some INFO on VietNam Airlines here on the board if possible. I have to wait for A330/A340's to arrive, since I have never flown the A320, and apparently normal CCQ is not accepted. Are there differences in pay btn A320/B777 crews? Is it possible to bring a family, and would the 6/2 deal still be on if You live in Ho Chi Min? Cost of living? Availability and quality of schooling? Is it better or worse than Korean and China Airlines?
Basic pay, Per Diem at an acceptable level? Do the locals treat You OK? Lots of questions, looking forward to lots of answers!
Best Regards,
Porkand cold, cold brew!
Basic pay, Per Diem at an acceptable level? Do the locals treat You OK? Lots of questions, looking forward to lots of answers!
Best Regards,
Porkand cold, cold brew!
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Are there differences in pay btn A320/B777 crews?
Pay is approx the same for A320, B767 Capt and F/O at appox $9,000 and $6,000 USD per month.
There are currently no Expat B777 F/O’s and I don’t expect you will see any for some time. I believe Captains make a little more than the others. $10,000 ?
There are also no Expat ATR F/Os, but there is speculation that they may have trouble filling those jobs as well. ATR Captains make close 6K as well I think
Is it possible to bring a family, and would the 6/2 deal still be on if You live in Ho Chi Min? Cost of living? Availability and quality of schooling? Is it better or worse than Korean and China Airlines?
Many guys bring their families. Yes you get the same time off if you live in HCMC. You also get one confirmed pass anywhere in the VN system to use each time on your days off.
Cost of living is very cheap. You can rent a nice house for $1,000 per month. Full time maid is only $50 / month. Beer, food and entertainment is also cheap. There are quite a few International Schools but they are expensive at $1,000 USD per month and there is no schooling allowance.
You get full medical coverage from your contractor and they have some first rate clinics here staffed by English speaking foreigners.
Example … I went to a clinic because of a sore back and within minutes a “nice Jewish Doctor” from Israel saw me, sent me upstairs for Xrays and then had the on staff Radiologist (his wife) go over the “films”. There was no problem but he offered me an MRI just to be sure. I declined even though that service would takes months to schedule back home in Canada. They gave me some medication and I walked out without paying a cent.
Basic pay, Per Diem at an acceptable level? Do the locals treat You OK? Lots of questions, looking forward to lots of answers!
As I said, pay is about 9K for Capt and 6K for F/O all tax free. There are no per diems paid. You take care of your own expenses but of course hotels and transportation is paid at all layovers. Some hotels include breakfast.
The locals are great. Everyone is friendly to you and overall HCMC is a pretty safe place to live. The other pilots treat us very well even though they only make a fraction of what we do. They do get per diems though and as a result they like flying to Japan where they get the most.
I have no personal experience living on Korea or China, but from what I hear Vietnam compares favorably.
I hope you find this information useful.
Lost in Saigon
Pay is approx the same for A320, B767 Capt and F/O at appox $9,000 and $6,000 USD per month.
There are currently no Expat B777 F/O’s and I don’t expect you will see any for some time. I believe Captains make a little more than the others. $10,000 ?
There are also no Expat ATR F/Os, but there is speculation that they may have trouble filling those jobs as well. ATR Captains make close 6K as well I think
Is it possible to bring a family, and would the 6/2 deal still be on if You live in Ho Chi Min? Cost of living? Availability and quality of schooling? Is it better or worse than Korean and China Airlines?
Many guys bring their families. Yes you get the same time off if you live in HCMC. You also get one confirmed pass anywhere in the VN system to use each time on your days off.
Cost of living is very cheap. You can rent a nice house for $1,000 per month. Full time maid is only $50 / month. Beer, food and entertainment is also cheap. There are quite a few International Schools but they are expensive at $1,000 USD per month and there is no schooling allowance.
You get full medical coverage from your contractor and they have some first rate clinics here staffed by English speaking foreigners.
Example … I went to a clinic because of a sore back and within minutes a “nice Jewish Doctor” from Israel saw me, sent me upstairs for Xrays and then had the on staff Radiologist (his wife) go over the “films”. There was no problem but he offered me an MRI just to be sure. I declined even though that service would takes months to schedule back home in Canada. They gave me some medication and I walked out without paying a cent.
Basic pay, Per Diem at an acceptable level? Do the locals treat You OK? Lots of questions, looking forward to lots of answers!
As I said, pay is about 9K for Capt and 6K for F/O all tax free. There are no per diems paid. You take care of your own expenses but of course hotels and transportation is paid at all layovers. Some hotels include breakfast.
The locals are great. Everyone is friendly to you and overall HCMC is a pretty safe place to live. The other pilots treat us very well even though they only make a fraction of what we do. They do get per diems though and as a result they like flying to Japan where they get the most.
I have no personal experience living on Korea or China, but from what I hear Vietnam compares favorably.
I hope you find this information useful.
Lost in Saigon
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Life in Vietnam in general and with HVN in particular is crap.
Full stop!
Anybody interested further about my opinion - look up my posts under swish266...
I find a lot of guys cant use a modern search engine! Shame!
Full stop!
Anybody interested further about my opinion - look up my posts under swish266...
I find a lot of guys cant use a modern search engine! Shame!
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Would you bafanguy and swish be more exact about payment $8000-$5000 and lifestandards are cr@p. What does it mean? Is it too small? Or too much to believe? All the conditions in Vietnam are much better then those you can expect in Middle East, or may be I do not understand something? Taking into consiederation the fact of crying coming from Emirates and almost total silence from Far East, something really important escapes me.
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People should keep in mind the very low cost of living in vietnam. Its less than 10% of the average EU country. So even if it is $5000 a month, it would compare to earning $50,000 a month in europe. How would that be ? The problem is that most pilots coming out here invariably have a wife and kids with them and this is where costs can escalate in addition to the wife and kid(s) becoming jadded with the cultural difference. They than nag the husband (pilot) who invariably speaks badly of the country he is in as his wife and kid are not happy and take it out on him. Go figure the rest! Hence the negativity here among some posters.
If you are free and single, jump at the chance to work for Vietnam airlines. They are generally a good airline with good respect for foreigners and word has it that some F/O's (expats) will be in line for promotion due to fleet expansion. Vietnam is beautiful by the way, - unspoilt landscape and charming people who are welcoming. A difference from other asian countries I could mention for sure. The weather is also great as well as the food. I need not mention the women there as we all know how beautiful they are.
So give it a go.
If you are free and single, jump at the chance to work for Vietnam airlines. They are generally a good airline with good respect for foreigners and word has it that some F/O's (expats) will be in line for promotion due to fleet expansion. Vietnam is beautiful by the way, - unspoilt landscape and charming people who are welcoming. A difference from other asian countries I could mention for sure. The weather is also great as well as the food. I need not mention the women there as we all know how beautiful they are.
So give it a go.
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Hello out there
I'm finishing my JAA ATPL in three month - just passed my CPL-multi - and i'm looking for a job anywhere on this planet. As for money: I spent it all on my training so my bank loan can not accomodate a type rating.
IS THERE COMPANIES OUT THERE LOOKING FOR A 29-YEAR-OLD SCANDINAVIAN WITH MINUMUM HOURS BUT GLIDER SINCE THE AGE OF 15?
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I'm finishing my JAA ATPL in three month - just passed my CPL-multi - and i'm looking for a job anywhere on this planet. As for money: I spent it all on my training so my bank loan can not accomodate a type rating.
IS THERE COMPANIES OUT THERE LOOKING FOR A 29-YEAR-OLD SCANDINAVIAN WITH MINUMUM HOURS BUT GLIDER SINCE THE AGE OF 15?
[email protected]
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BC!
Sorry to give U an online lesson,
But as I said b4, just click on my login, swish 266, go to my profile and click option "view all comments by this member". Then U can read plenty bout this Cr-p Ho-e
top999
I gather U might'av never set a foot in SGN.
What about the filthy Mekong that caries all d **** from S/E Asia right through downtown Saigon?
What about d small dead creek just 3 km from d apt (all dat go for a flt must pass over it) that "flavors" close and no so close neighbourhoods?
What about drugs being pushed on yr kids at every corner of d top int. secondary school?
What about d famous amoeba?
What about gettin gastro couple times a month.
This is a filthy Country with bottom standards in everythin...
Saved 100.000USD in 3.4 years but dont think it justifies d sacrifice...
Good luck to all d adventure seekers... And take up an AIDS ins policy if U can get one. Vietnam has currently d highest HIV-pos grouth rate in dis World...
Sorry to give U an online lesson,
But as I said b4, just click on my login, swish 266, go to my profile and click option "view all comments by this member". Then U can read plenty bout this Cr-p Ho-e
top999
I gather U might'av never set a foot in SGN.
What about the filthy Mekong that caries all d **** from S/E Asia right through downtown Saigon?
What about d small dead creek just 3 km from d apt (all dat go for a flt must pass over it) that "flavors" close and no so close neighbourhoods?
What about drugs being pushed on yr kids at every corner of d top int. secondary school?
What about d famous amoeba?
What about gettin gastro couple times a month.
This is a filthy Country with bottom standards in everythin...
Saved 100.000USD in 3.4 years but dont think it justifies d sacrifice...
Good luck to all d adventure seekers... And take up an AIDS ins policy if U can get one. Vietnam has currently d highest HIV-pos grouth rate in dis World...
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TOP 999 is very right and do not take the advise of Swish 266
I have been there for many years on B767 and it is a great place to work. Nothing is perfect and if you know a place to life and to work who is perfect let me know
I have been living and working there for more than 10 years and the only reason that I left was because the B767 is fadind away
I have been there for many years on B767 and it is a great place to work. Nothing is perfect and if you know a place to life and to work who is perfect let me know
I have been living and working there for more than 10 years and the only reason that I left was because the B767 is fadind away
Props are for boats!
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Ok fellas this is a Hypothetical.
Say someone turned up with an A320 Type Rating bare and around 5200tt with 3000 Multi Turbine Command P1 . Would one get a look in. Swish ev ery country has its pros and cons. Veitnam is alot closer to OZ than where I am at the moment.
Any advice appreciated
Sheep
Say someone turned up with an A320 Type Rating bare and around 5200tt with 3000 Multi Turbine Command P1 . Would one get a look in. Swish ev ery country has its pros and cons. Veitnam is alot closer to OZ than where I am at the moment.
Any advice appreciated
Sheep