SIA cadet pilot (Merged - Again!).
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Hi all,
Just to answer some of your questions here...
First, if you did not pass the first interview, you can try as many times as you like. I know of a Captain who only got through after the 7th attempt, and now he's happily flying.
As for the second interview, no second chance is given. Once you fail this round, it is extremely unlikely that you will be offered another shot at it. Likewise for the medical. I know of one guy who cleared both interviews but was rejected after the medical. And yes, they do have your records once you apply.
There are many differences between flying for SQ, Cargo or Silkair, but the training is still (almost) the same, where you still have to complete your Phase A in Singapore Flying College (Seletar) and your CPL/IR in Jandakot. Only when you have obtained your CPL/IR, Silkair cadets will return to Singapore to begin their simulation training on the A320, while the SQ and Cargo cadets will go Maroochydore for their Learjet 45 training. On completion of the L45 course, Cargo cadets will begin their sims on B744, and SQ on B777. At this point, it is unlikely that cadets will go direct onto A345 or A380, but that may change in the future.
As mentioned by another here, Silkair pilots get to go home everyday, since they do not have night stops. And due to the shorter destinations they fly, they do get to clock their sectors faster (as compared to SQ or Cargo), hence, they will get their Captainship earlier. Of course, the downside is that they do not get paid for overnight allowances... hence, lower pay.
For Cargo, yes, their destinations are exotic. And yes, no cabin crew around as well... but then again, flying cargo is more relaxing (or rather, less stressful) than passengers... since you dun get your cargo to complain about the food, the landing, turbulence.... etc, right?
As for life in Jandakot, if you're not flying, then your time is yours. You can go out if you wish to, but there is a 'curfew' imposed and certain rules as well. There are also other programmes to involve the cadets and (sometimes) instructors. It is not a holiday camp, yet, you can still make the most out of it whenever you're not flying.
Hope this clears some doubts you guys may have...
Cheers!
Just to answer some of your questions here...
First, if you did not pass the first interview, you can try as many times as you like. I know of a Captain who only got through after the 7th attempt, and now he's happily flying.
As for the second interview, no second chance is given. Once you fail this round, it is extremely unlikely that you will be offered another shot at it. Likewise for the medical. I know of one guy who cleared both interviews but was rejected after the medical. And yes, they do have your records once you apply.
There are many differences between flying for SQ, Cargo or Silkair, but the training is still (almost) the same, where you still have to complete your Phase A in Singapore Flying College (Seletar) and your CPL/IR in Jandakot. Only when you have obtained your CPL/IR, Silkair cadets will return to Singapore to begin their simulation training on the A320, while the SQ and Cargo cadets will go Maroochydore for their Learjet 45 training. On completion of the L45 course, Cargo cadets will begin their sims on B744, and SQ on B777. At this point, it is unlikely that cadets will go direct onto A345 or A380, but that may change in the future.
As mentioned by another here, Silkair pilots get to go home everyday, since they do not have night stops. And due to the shorter destinations they fly, they do get to clock their sectors faster (as compared to SQ or Cargo), hence, they will get their Captainship earlier. Of course, the downside is that they do not get paid for overnight allowances... hence, lower pay.
For Cargo, yes, their destinations are exotic. And yes, no cabin crew around as well... but then again, flying cargo is more relaxing (or rather, less stressful) than passengers... since you dun get your cargo to complain about the food, the landing, turbulence.... etc, right?
As for life in Jandakot, if you're not flying, then your time is yours. You can go out if you wish to, but there is a 'curfew' imposed and certain rules as well. There are also other programmes to involve the cadets and (sometimes) instructors. It is not a holiday camp, yet, you can still make the most out of it whenever you're not flying.
Hope this clears some doubts you guys may have...
Cheers!
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Thanks Limpeh, pretty informative stuff, appreciate that.
Is the attrition rate high over the various phases of the training? Are there instances when a cadet is being axed off on the reasons that he did not get along well with the instructors ( non-flying reasons) ?
From your observation, how many of your batch mates went home since training started ?
Is flying with SQ captains a tense affair? i heard stories of how a few of them can be quite nasty in the way they treat new F/O's. Is this fact or fiction ? anyone care to comment?
Is the attrition rate high over the various phases of the training? Are there instances when a cadet is being axed off on the reasons that he did not get along well with the instructors ( non-flying reasons) ?
From your observation, how many of your batch mates went home since training started ?
Is flying with SQ captains a tense affair? i heard stories of how a few of them can be quite nasty in the way they treat new F/O's. Is this fact or fiction ? anyone care to comment?
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Attrition really depends on the individual. For example, for my course, out of 18, all successfully completed the Jandakot phase, and (most) are now on the B744, B777 or A320 fleet, with some doing the L45 phase.
While there are other courses, where 4-5 get terminated at different stages of training.
Regarding the instructors, if you're not learning well with one instructor, you can get a change to another instructor, since each has his own way of teaching you (or explaining to you).
As for Leion, since SIA is not a military organisation, having previous broken limbs should not affect your application, provided the injuries have no permanent effect, and you range of mobility is unaffected. However, your blood disorder may be a factor. I had a interview mate who got rejected after the medical due to a blood disorder. Dunno which though, cos he didn't elaborate.
While there are other courses, where 4-5 get terminated at different stages of training.
Regarding the instructors, if you're not learning well with one instructor, you can get a change to another instructor, since each has his own way of teaching you (or explaining to you).
As for Leion, since SIA is not a military organisation, having previous broken limbs should not affect your application, provided the injuries have no permanent effect, and you range of mobility is unaffected. However, your blood disorder may be a factor. I had a interview mate who got rejected after the medical due to a blood disorder. Dunno which though, cos he didn't elaborate.
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Hi, I received an email for the 1st interview for coming Friday the 13th May. Anyone going for the same interview?
Does anyone know how many interviewees will there roughly be?
Regards.
Does anyone know how many interviewees will there roughly be?
Regards.
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Wow, fantastic stuff, Limpeh! It's good to hear from a real pilot
Chopping is always a concern for us pilot wannabes. I just bumped into an old fren of mine who was chopped because he couldn't do his solo! Tough. He told me that he had serious parallax problems, and trimming was difficult as well. He said he was extremely sad when he returned his uniform. Ai.
I heard abt positioning. That is when the cargo pilot has to take a flight as a passenger to another airport to fly the a/c. I understand that the cargo pilot is not paid allowance for positioning. Is this true? And will this be changed soon?
Another question: do pilots get lonely?
I would love to go diving over in Australia! But not sure whether we're given time off...
Jessie Blue
Chopping is always a concern for us pilot wannabes. I just bumped into an old fren of mine who was chopped because he couldn't do his solo! Tough. He told me that he had serious parallax problems, and trimming was difficult as well. He said he was extremely sad when he returned his uniform. Ai.
I heard abt positioning. That is when the cargo pilot has to take a flight as a passenger to another airport to fly the a/c. I understand that the cargo pilot is not paid allowance for positioning. Is this true? And will this be changed soon?
Another question: do pilots get lonely?
I would love to go diving over in Australia! But not sure whether we're given time off...
Jessie Blue
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which months of the year are the cadet pilot interview normally held?
it seems that every month there is an interview.. is that true.. this information is particularly important to me because i signed a contract with a company and it will end around august.. so i need to gauge the best time to send in my application and hopes to complete the final interview and at the same time contract with my company ended...
it seems that every month there is an interview.. is that true.. this information is particularly important to me because i signed a contract with a company and it will end around august.. so i need to gauge the best time to send in my application and hopes to complete the final interview and at the same time contract with my company ended...
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Tango Tango:
There will be approximately 40 candidates for the first interview. For the second interview, there will only be 10 of you for each session.
Jessie Blue:
Yes, clearing solo is the first important hurdle you have to clear during the Jandakot phase. If you are not safe to fly alone, how will you be able to fly passsengers (or cargo) next time? Some people can do it, some people can't. That's the sad truth. And you won't know until you've tried.
As for positioning, it depends on which allowance you're talking about. I don't have the exact details, and I don't think it should be discussed here anyway. As for the lonely part... well, it depends... if you're flying passenger, then there's cabin crew to go out with (if you wanna join them)...
As for diving, yes, you will be able to find time to pursue your other interests when you are in Jandakot.
Predator:
There are interviews held on a regular basis; but everyday, there are applications coming in, so you may have to wait for a while before you're called up for interview. My suggestion is to send in the application anyway, and see how it goes from there. I think it would be better for you to make a decision when you're offered the position (after clearing the interviews AND medical).
There will be approximately 40 candidates for the first interview. For the second interview, there will only be 10 of you for each session.
Jessie Blue:
Yes, clearing solo is the first important hurdle you have to clear during the Jandakot phase. If you are not safe to fly alone, how will you be able to fly passsengers (or cargo) next time? Some people can do it, some people can't. That's the sad truth. And you won't know until you've tried.
As for positioning, it depends on which allowance you're talking about. I don't have the exact details, and I don't think it should be discussed here anyway. As for the lonely part... well, it depends... if you're flying passenger, then there's cabin crew to go out with (if you wanna join them)...
As for diving, yes, you will be able to find time to pursue your other interests when you are in Jandakot.
Predator:
There are interviews held on a regular basis; but everyday, there are applications coming in, so you may have to wait for a while before you're called up for interview. My suggestion is to send in the application anyway, and see how it goes from there. I think it would be better for you to make a decision when you're offered the position (after clearing the interviews AND medical).
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Hi all,
thanks for all the info, well still have few questions.
1) for the age limit (26yrs old, correct me if im wrong) is only applied to Singaporean or all (PR, Malaysian)? btw is there any non singaporean / non malaysian cadet pilots (SG PR)?
2)Anyone knows someone with a PPL get in? does it help? from what i know a PPL doesnt help much, and during the training phase, can he skip the PPL and go direct to CPL/IR? and contract should be same right?
thanks
thanks for all the info, well still have few questions.
1) for the age limit (26yrs old, correct me if im wrong) is only applied to Singaporean or all (PR, Malaysian)? btw is there any non singaporean / non malaysian cadet pilots (SG PR)?
2)Anyone knows someone with a PPL get in? does it help? from what i know a PPL doesnt help much, and during the training phase, can he skip the PPL and go direct to CPL/IR? and contract should be same right?
thanks
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Hi guys!!
I'm kind of new ard here but after reading this thread,I'm just amazed cuz u guys are very"ON" which,being an aviation nut myself,i'm quite pleased to know
I'm interested in joining the air force though SIA is still on my cards juz in case somehow or rather i didnt get to nail a spot in d air force. I'm kinda curious abt d selection process in SIA though.
In terms of qualifications rite,does the grade u get plays a significant portion in the selection process?I did ok for my O's with mostly B's and when I did my dip,my average grades were B's too though there were cases of me getting A's as well as D's too.I'm kinda worried of the fact that they will consider ur grades too much that they will overlook the passion that I have for flying.
I sincerely appreciate if u guys mite b able to help me with this One more thing guys,is there anione here from the RSAF 2 who are flying in SQ now?
Once again,thanx alot guys.Cherios!!
I'm kind of new ard here but after reading this thread,I'm just amazed cuz u guys are very"ON" which,being an aviation nut myself,i'm quite pleased to know
I'm interested in joining the air force though SIA is still on my cards juz in case somehow or rather i didnt get to nail a spot in d air force. I'm kinda curious abt d selection process in SIA though.
In terms of qualifications rite,does the grade u get plays a significant portion in the selection process?I did ok for my O's with mostly B's and when I did my dip,my average grades were B's too though there were cases of me getting A's as well as D's too.I'm kinda worried of the fact that they will consider ur grades too much that they will overlook the passion that I have for flying.
I sincerely appreciate if u guys mite b able to help me with this
One more thing guys,is there anione here from the RSAF 2 who are flying in SQ now? Once again,thanx alot guys.Cherios!!
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Thank you very much Mat and LimPeh.
Some queries:-
1) What types of questions are asked during the 1st interview?
2) I believe it is a panel interview. How many interviewers would there be?
3) I heard that the interviews are really gruelling. Exactly what was the experience really like?
4) How long was your 1st interview?
TO ALL OUT THERE:- Anyone going for his 1st Cadet Pilot interview this Friday the 13th??
Thank you so much
Some queries:-
1) What types of questions are asked during the 1st interview?
2) I believe it is a panel interview. How many interviewers would there be?
3) I heard that the interviews are really gruelling. Exactly what was the experience really like?
4) How long was your 1st interview?
TO ALL OUT THERE:- Anyone going for his 1st Cadet Pilot interview this Friday the 13th??
Thank you so much
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tango,
1)
basic questions.
why are you here, why do you want to be a pilot, tell me about yourself, tell me about your military/education background.
technical questions
what a/c does SIA have in its fleet? how many? whats your favourite (i suggest you say a 777 or 747 or A345 as saying some military a/c like the XB-35 might result in the asking pressing questions on this a/c which still has most of its systems classified). be prepared for an a/c engine question, this crops up alot.
random questions
what are you most fearfull of? are you afraid of heights? are you afraid of water? can you swim? are you familiar with this cadetship BOND system?
prepare a question incase they ask "do you have anything to ask us" try not to touch the crash in taiwan or the recent labour scuffles.
2) 2 interviewers. One is usually a Pilot and the other an HR representative.
3) It was gruelling
. But the second one is sopposed to be worse
. I was nervous at first but i got stuck into it and started feeling better about how it was going.
4) around 15 mins
my answers are purely based on my experience, i would urge you to read this forum in depth and ask friends or family that are familiar with the interview of thier opinions.
happy researching and best of luck to you
1)
basic questions.
why are you here, why do you want to be a pilot, tell me about yourself, tell me about your military/education background.
technical questions
what a/c does SIA have in its fleet? how many? whats your favourite (i suggest you say a 777 or 747 or A345 as saying some military a/c like the XB-35 might result in the asking pressing questions on this a/c which still has most of its systems classified). be prepared for an a/c engine question, this crops up alot.
random questions
what are you most fearfull of? are you afraid of heights? are you afraid of water? can you swim? are you familiar with this cadetship BOND system?
prepare a question incase they ask "do you have anything to ask us" try not to touch the crash in taiwan or the recent labour scuffles.
2) 2 interviewers. One is usually a Pilot and the other an HR representative.
3) It was gruelling
. But the second one is sopposed to be worse. I was nervous at first but i got stuck into it and started feeling better about how it was going.4) around 15 mins
my answers are purely based on my experience, i would urge you to read this forum in depth and ask friends or family that are familiar with the interview of thier opinions.
happy researching and best of luck to you
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Hello Mat Salleh,
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Appreciate your advice. Gosh, however, I have never had any experience with aviation except as a passenger...
Really wouldn't have an idea how an aircraft works or how a plane flies or even why which a/c is my favourite...
Guess I have to do some late readup and hope for the best.
Thank u again.
TO ALL OUT THERE: Anyone going for his 1st Cadet Pilot interview this Friday the 13th?
Regards
Thank you so much for sharing your experience.
Appreciate your advice. Gosh, however, I have never had any experience with aviation except as a passenger...Really wouldn't have an idea how an aircraft works or how a plane flies or even why which a/c is my favourite...
Guess I have to do some late readup and hope for the best.
Thank u again.TO ALL OUT THERE: Anyone going for his 1st Cadet Pilot interview this Friday the 13th?
Regards
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Hi guys,
to any of the lucky fellas, that are going for the interview, this friday the 13th, may I ask how long ago did you send your application in. I have sent mine in about 6 weeks ago and, nothing.....hmmmmmmmmm
Thanks guys and all the best of luck.
to any of the lucky fellas, that are going for the interview, this friday the 13th, may I ask how long ago did you send your application in. I have sent mine in about 6 weeks ago and, nothing.....hmmmmmmmmm
Thanks guys and all the best of luck.
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What sort of creature comforts do Cadets enjoy in training both locally and overseas? Do you have access to a phone or internet? Are laptops allowed in the premises of the training grounds?
I would think that an internet connection can be useful especially in obtaining information on some of the topics that we don't understand..
I would think that an internet connection can be useful especially in obtaining information on some of the topics that we don't understand..
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Hello guys,
I sent my application in March 05, just got the call up last week for the 1st interview. Have patience...if you qualify from what they see in ur application, they will call you when they need pilots. Timing is pretty crucial I think.
Well, I will be going for my 1st interview tomorrow, and to think it falls on Friday the 13th. haha...
Good luck, be patient and have fun!
Regards.
I sent my application in March 05, just got the call up last week for the 1st interview. Have patience...if you qualify from what they see in ur application, they will call you when they need pilots. Timing is pretty crucial I think.Well, I will be going for my 1st interview tomorrow, and to think it falls on Friday the 13th. haha...
Good luck, be patient and have fun!
Regards.
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Hi tangotango,
I am one of the many interviewees who had went for the interview. I just reached home after 30 minutes of intensive questions and answer sessions. Well, it was really a good experience.
Btw I got to know a guy named Vincent in the same interview. We were discussing about what was the updated no of B777s in SIA. If you read my post, please pm me. Thanks!
I am one of the many interviewees who had went for the interview. I just reached home after 30 minutes of intensive questions and answer sessions. Well, it was really a good experience.
Btw I got to know a guy named Vincent in the same interview. We were discussing about what was the updated no of B777s in SIA. If you read my post, please pm me. Thanks!