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jo_bac 14th Mar 2004 12:20

SIA cadet pilot
 
i recently applied for the post of cadet pilot but was rejected as i have only 4 'O' level credits even though i got a diploma.

i understand that there are some guys who are pursuing their 'frozen' ATPL from overseas as a self funded student but would have to retake their 'O' levels when they get back before seeking employment either because they do not meet the required 5 credits or do not have the required grades for certain subjects.

would i be considered for the post of cadet pilot if i were to retake my 'O' levels and obtain 5 credits?
i do not have an ATPL.

Pls help

thanks

donaldstan 14th Mar 2004 15:53

rejected?
 
u mean u were told by SIA that u r rejected becos of O-Level result? firstly, i'm surprised that they wil tel u tat u r not accepted. i've applied for more than a month but no news at all. secondly, i really have no idea why O-Level is more important that a degree/diploma.

but anyway, i cant comment cause i'm still waiting miserably for a reply from them. hopefully, they WILL reply me whether or not i'm accepted.

cheers and all the best.. ;)

satumare 15th Mar 2004 02:06

Guys, ''O'' Level IS indeed more important than a degree or diploma as it will gauge your aptitude and also to a certain level of attitude of what you are capable of.
Taking 'O'level on normal time streamlined with your age and normal school schedule and passing it well in one sitting shows basically whether you're intelligent enough and also says a lot about your attitude for time management. Whilst taking a degree or diploma is like you can afford what you can afford on a minimal entry reqiurement in this age of Commercially driven institute of higher learning.
Having said that,with a very good 'O'level and a degree will definitely put one on a higher chances of being selected.

southernmtn 15th Mar 2004 02:11

For flying, "O"-level credits are required in English Language, Mathematics and a science subject (like, Gen Science, Physics or Chemistry, but Biology does not count).

So, you may have a Doctorate in History or Geography or some Business Ad; without the required credits in the humble O-levels you will not be accepted.

Those are not the only hurdles one has to overcome.

donaldstan 15th Mar 2004 04:11

how long will SIA normally take to reply? I'm from Msia, met the criteria for O-Level (SPM), have a degree, applied one month ago, but no reply yet..... :(

jo_bac 15th Mar 2004 09:37

satumare, u mentioned that "Taking 'O'level on normal time streamlined with your age and normal school schedule and passing it well in one sitting shows basically whether you're intelligent enough and also says a lot about your attitude for time management."

but then guys' with ATPL but have to retake their 'O's aint' doing that on normal time streamlined with their age as well...

therefore, wat are my chances if any, that i'll be accepted into cadet pilot recruitment if i retake my 'O's now?

thanks

donaldstan 22nd Mar 2004 06:24

yeah!
 
SIA just asked me to go for an interview!!! any1 knows what will happen? this is the first interview for Cadet Pilot. pls advise. thanks.

any1 knows the recruitment process?

sq111 22nd Mar 2004 10:21

the 5 O levels criteria is set by CAAS, not SIA.

Anyway, SIA Interview in the first round is simple, just ask a few questions about aviation, about yourself, etc. No big deal here.

The tough one is the final interview cum tea party

And... don't waste time and money doing your ATPL elsewhere, the best way is the cadet pilot programme. DOing it via MFA does not guarantee you a job...

donaldstan 22nd Mar 2004 18:26

interview
 
questions on aviation? I basically do not know much. any sample questions so i can get myself prepared? any book/etc to recommend?

sq111 22nd Mar 2004 23:52

Tell us about yourself...

why you want to be a pilot.

in your opinion, what makes a good pilot.

Why you want to join SIA, not Malaysia airlines?



First round is simple questions like this, maybe you should also understand how a jet engine works.

Remember, they are looking for attitude, if you possess good attitude, you'l easily go thru the first interview. Be humble, address the interviewers as sir or Captain xxx. Likely to be one captain and another officer, can be both Captain though.


Final interview is tougher, but make it thru the first rough first.

donaldstan 23rd Mar 2004 05:02

thanks for the info. if i were to pass the first interview, how long will they take to reply to me again? what's the next step after the interview?

sq111 23rd Mar 2004 05:49

no hard and fast rule, my time was about 3-4 weeks later.

By then, you'll attend the interview in about 1 week, it'll be 2 days affair, first day is just some physcometric tests. 2nd day is situational test in the morning, followed by final interview (with about 6-8 interviewers) and then finally tea party.

marlin 23rd Mar 2004 07:30

Jo bac........your guess is as good as mine.I can't say and I do not know.Sorry

P.O.M 23rd Mar 2004 13:08

When were you here??
 
sq111 - you have obviously made it through, where abouts are you now and when did you do your time at JKT?

Cheers
P.O.M:ok:

donaldstan 24th Mar 2004 05:00

tests
 
thanks, sq111, for the reply.

2 more questions: what's the situational test about? what's involved in the psychometric test? games?

sq111 24th Mar 2004 09:23

its simple task that you can handle. if you can't even handle, then you may not be suitable to be a pilot.

its not some difficult task, so no worries. In fact I think its best you dun know much about these phase, just concentrate on the 1st interview first.

BTW, I always crash on flight simulator, even those in arcades, but of course I don't crash a B777, so games aren't a good guage of whether can you fly, so don't be bothered about it.

But be prepared lor, international flying means you are away 2/3 of the time, and there are those who don't like it and left their flying careers after their 7 years bond.

Worst if you are on A345, super long flying hours and few sectors under your belt compared to your peers. and of course, most of your life is spend in the air....

LEADERSHIP...

donaldstan 24th Mar 2004 18:15

=)
 
thanks for tat again. I think i'm better to concentrate in the 1st interview, like what u said. not sure if i can pass it though.

I sat for the psychomotor test for MAS recently and guess I've failed as I couldn't 'play' the last game. that's y i'm a bit phobia in this kind of test. is there anything u can recommend to me so that i can practise? :)

sq111 25th Mar 2004 23:49

dun worry, during my time I also think I'll fail the test, but I still make it thru..

no need to do anything, physcomotor is in born, if you cannot even pass physomotor, there is nothing much you can do about it is inborn, not something you can practise.

But then, commercial flying is unlike military flying, you don't need unique physcomotor of military pilots to fly a 777, most normal person should make it.

winglet_fever 26th Mar 2004 05:33

sq111, i was just reading this..




Professional Pilot Licence

3.13 What qualifications will I need to apply for the initial issue of a Singapore Commercial Pilot Licence (CPL) and Airline Transport Pilot Licence (ATPL)?

i) You must not be less than 18 years old (CPL) and 21 years old (ATPL)

ii) You must pass at least five subjects at the GCE 'O' Level including English Language, Mathematics and a Science subject.

iii) Pass a Singapore Class 1 initial medical with a CAAS DME




notice there isnt anything written about having to pass five credits in one sitting? so is that an add-on by SQ? :8

limchristopher 27th Mar 2004 00:59

hi there ppl
 
Hi ppl,

Donald, did you get to go for the interview wth SIA yet? or still am waiting for it? Hows your preparation? eveyrthing fine?
ok, keep me updated,

Cheers,
Chris


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