Shenzhen & Hainan A/Ls hiring
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Shenzhen & Hainan A/Ls hiring
20 737 Capts to be interviewed in Shenzhen next week.
Hainan Airlines will finalise contract details within 10 days.
Shenzhen US$5000/mth incl good accommodation. Many 737-800s to be delivered this year.
HNA US$6500/mth basing most likely Haikou but Beijing (Xin Hua) and Shanghai (Yangtse River Express) are also on the cards. Accom allowance RMB1500/mth HAK and RMB3000/mth in the big smoke. HNA require a minimum of 30 Captains ( requirements are now at 500 PIC on Classic or NG)
HAK-KIX-HAK opened last week
HAK-PUS-HAK opened on New Years day
SYX-ICN-SYX will increase from 4 times per week to daily next week.
BKK service opens end of the month. Normal SIN and KUL charters during the Chinese New Year.
HNA have 30 more 737s to be delivered this year (Most will be 2nd hand) Fleet currently at 81 plus Aircraft (3 new 767s, lots of 737-3/4/7/800s, 22 Dornier 328s and 3 Dash 8-400s) Old news: 8 A320s for HNA this year as well
Numerous agencies courting HNA.
You heard it here .. email [email protected] if you require any more info
Hainan Airlines will finalise contract details within 10 days.
Shenzhen US$5000/mth incl good accommodation. Many 737-800s to be delivered this year.
HNA US$6500/mth basing most likely Haikou but Beijing (Xin Hua) and Shanghai (Yangtse River Express) are also on the cards. Accom allowance RMB1500/mth HAK and RMB3000/mth in the big smoke. HNA require a minimum of 30 Captains ( requirements are now at 500 PIC on Classic or NG)
HAK-KIX-HAK opened last week
HAK-PUS-HAK opened on New Years day
SYX-ICN-SYX will increase from 4 times per week to daily next week.
BKK service opens end of the month. Normal SIN and KUL charters during the Chinese New Year.
HNA have 30 more 737s to be delivered this year (Most will be 2nd hand) Fleet currently at 81 plus Aircraft (3 new 767s, lots of 737-3/4/7/800s, 22 Dornier 328s and 3 Dash 8-400s) Old news: 8 A320s for HNA this year as well
Numerous agencies courting HNA.
You heard it here .. email [email protected] if you require any more info
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Will non-Chinese be considered - do you need to speak the local language? Are type ratings or time-on-type in specific aircraft required? I hear Haikou is a nice place - very tropical.
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Shenzhen are interviewing mainly Brazilians. They currently have 4 or 5 Expats (Thru Contractair)
HNA have 2 (Australians) and expect to take many more expats within the next few months.
NB They have been promising to take lots of Lau Wai's for awhile. This time appears for real.
Air China and China Eastern have made a few moves in this direction as well.
If you are dealing with any company from mainland China: Don't call them China Airlines. No.1 shows your ignorance. No.2 Political reasons.
HNA have 2 (Australians) and expect to take many more expats within the next few months.
NB They have been promising to take lots of Lau Wai's for awhile. This time appears for real.
Air China and China Eastern have made a few moves in this direction as well.
If you are dealing with any company from mainland China: Don't call them China Airlines. No.1 shows your ignorance. No.2 Political reasons.
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Lack of Info
Foreign worker. I am just informing the masses of lots of decent jobs. As for me I love it here. Just the missus is trying to drag me out because of her appetite for original copies
Sorry Original goods.
Living in Haikou is fantastic if you are a native Chinese or most foreigners. The remaining Lau Wai's (foreigners) find it difficult to live here because practically nobody can communicate with you unless you speak Mandarin or Hainanese. Even Cantonese is as foreign as English here.
The weather overall is great. 22 celsius today and they say it's winter. Wearing a T-shirt at the moment & it's midnight.. Should be in bed but the night life here is only beginning.. Single guys are out there like a pack of Wolves!
The money that Hainan are offering is very good considering Haikou is probably one of the cheapest places on the planet. The VP and the "leaders" have decided to go for quality Pilots, meaning they will try and be fussy with who they choose.
The package is Tax free, The housing allowance is almost enough, the management are great guys as long as you remember it's their train set.
Children's education: Sorry only Chinese schools. Their are montessori Kinergartens but that's it.
Western restaurants: 2 decent 5 star hotels (The rest of the 5 star joints paid for the extra stars) Mandarin..best Western food. Crowne Plaza.. Pretty good too but overpriced.
1 Scottish Hamburger Joint.. Something starting with a golden M Opened 14 months ago..
The medical care in Haikou is quite poor, the company drs are probably the best in Haikou.
It is an emotional rollercoaster but if you survive 6 mths you probably will never want to leave!
Sorry Original goods.Living in Haikou is fantastic if you are a native Chinese or most foreigners. The remaining Lau Wai's (foreigners) find it difficult to live here because practically nobody can communicate with you unless you speak Mandarin or Hainanese. Even Cantonese is as foreign as English here.
The weather overall is great. 22 celsius today and they say it's winter. Wearing a T-shirt at the moment & it's midnight.. Should be in bed but the night life here is only beginning.. Single guys are out there like a pack of Wolves!
The money that Hainan are offering is very good considering Haikou is probably one of the cheapest places on the planet. The VP and the "leaders" have decided to go for quality Pilots, meaning they will try and be fussy with who they choose.
The package is Tax free, The housing allowance is almost enough, the management are great guys as long as you remember it's their train set.
Children's education: Sorry only Chinese schools. Their are montessori Kinergartens but that's it.
Western restaurants: 2 decent 5 star hotels (The rest of the 5 star joints paid for the extra stars) Mandarin..best Western food. Crowne Plaza.. Pretty good too but overpriced.
1 Scottish Hamburger Joint.. Something starting with a golden M Opened 14 months ago..
The medical care in Haikou is quite poor, the company drs are probably the best in Haikou.
It is an emotional rollercoaster but if you survive 6 mths you probably will never want to leave!
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Best food in Hainan
The Orion crew thought the Chinese were trying to poison them. But actually they were being served the best... Including Shredded sows ear, Upper intestine of a young cow and one of my favourites..Braised Camel hoof 
Our friends here give only the best!
Their intentions are good... As long as you keep that in mind.
Our friends here give only the best!
Their intentions are good... As long as you keep that in mind.
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Oh plllleeeeease!!
Le Pilot perhaps you have been trying to live the Eastern line of culture - as a Westerner - for too long. You were raised in the western culture vs Asian, were't you?!
So let's cut the bs!
For Gwailos - non-Chinese - Dragonair is offering the very BEST conditions available.
And as a matter of FACT , DRAGONAIR are probably offering the BEST conditions of employment in the H.K. area to nationals!!!
Tell CX, "Dioulay".....which MIGHT be Arabic for "God bless you".............but I doubt it - and ask Le Pilot to grow up (and rmove that grey strip from his hair).
Le Pilot perhaps you have been trying to live the Eastern line of culture - as a Westerner - for too long. You were raised in the western culture vs Asian, were't you?!
So let's cut the bs!
For Gwailos - non-Chinese - Dragonair is offering the very BEST conditions available.
And as a matter of FACT , DRAGONAIR are probably offering the BEST conditions of employment in the H.K. area to nationals!!!
Tell CX, "Dioulay".....which MIGHT be Arabic for "God bless you".............but I doubt it - and ask Le Pilot to grow up (and rmove that grey strip from his hair).
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Well that was informative.
I've posted here over the last 2 years to give some of the drivers an idea what's happening here.
Surely the growth of grey hair does not influence my ability to help all have a better lifestyle. HU (& SZ) have limited info on their website. Just bridging the gap.
Just look through past posts over the last few years. Consistently trying to be informative.
They dont work us too hard here. So plenty of time to talk about the local scene.
Cheers!
I've posted here over the last 2 years to give some of the drivers an idea what's happening here.
Surely the growth of grey hair does not influence my ability to help all have a better lifestyle. HU (& SZ) have limited info on their website. Just bridging the gap.
Just look through past posts over the last few years. Consistently trying to be informative.
They dont work us too hard here. So plenty of time to talk about the local scene.
Cheers!
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
F.W. a "friend" of your's L.P.? She sure has sharp talons!
Anyway, it sounds as tho' things are moving in that part of the world - are the salaries post tax, ie. tax paid, L.P.? Paid in USD?
Is the housing allowance separate, or included in those figures?
Anyway, it sounds as tho' things are moving in that part of the world - are the salaries post tax, ie. tax paid, L.P.? Paid in USD?
Is the housing allowance separate, or included in those figures?
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Thanks KM
Felt a melenky bit of ultraviolence there for awhile.
The 20 victims who were supposed to turn up in SZ turned out to be 4 due Visa problems.
In China you need lots of patience.
But the good news in SZ is the salary has been pumped up to US$6000 ($1000 paid in RMB)
HU is at US$6500. Accom is supposed to be covered in HU as in SZ. But that will depend on where you're based. They raised the PEK based alowance to RMB4500. The big shots at the top say that you can get a pretty good apartment in Beijing (PEK) for that money
Latest news: my offsider quit yesterday to join Jet connect, (QF NZ) He has a 2 year old and felt AKL was more fun.
The management are having another meeting Mon morning to look at improving HU's deal. Dont hold yer breath!
This expat thing is totally new to these guys.
Sorry KM.
Yes the salaries are all Tax paid and China has a dual taxation agreement with most Western countries. Housing is seperate to the US dollars.
Felt a melenky bit of ultraviolence there for awhile.
The 20 victims who were supposed to turn up in SZ turned out to be 4 due Visa problems.
In China you need lots of patience.
But the good news in SZ is the salary has been pumped up to US$6000 ($1000 paid in RMB)
HU is at US$6500. Accom is supposed to be covered in HU as in SZ. But that will depend on where you're based. They raised the PEK based alowance to RMB4500. The big shots at the top say that you can get a pretty good apartment in Beijing (PEK) for that money
Latest news: my offsider quit yesterday to join Jet connect, (QF NZ) He has a 2 year old and felt AKL was more fun.
The management are having another meeting Mon morning to look at improving HU's deal. Dont hold yer breath!
This expat thing is totally new to these guys.
Sorry KM.
Yes the salaries are all Tax paid and China has a dual taxation agreement with most Western countries. Housing is seperate to the US dollars.
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Just so that all the facts are correct;
Shenzhen now have 8 expats. The salary is USD5000 after tax. Agency A provides for apartment accomodation and 5 tickets per year. Agency B gives you the USD1000 (probably in RMB), says go find your own accomodation and provides for only 2 tickets per year. Agency B is yet to muscle in here yet but rumour has it, it may soon.
They are still very interested in employing about 20 more this year. A few have failed the medical and lots have failed the sim check, which is done raw data with emergencies at a very challenging airport.
Tax may be not what it seems........
Shenzhen now have 8 expats. The salary is USD5000 after tax. Agency A provides for apartment accomodation and 5 tickets per year. Agency B gives you the USD1000 (probably in RMB), says go find your own accomodation and provides for only 2 tickets per year. Agency B is yet to muscle in here yet but rumour has it, it may soon.
They are still very interested in employing about 20 more this year. A few have failed the medical and lots have failed the sim check, which is done raw data with emergencies at a very challenging airport.
Tax may be not what it seems........
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LP,
Saw a few of yours today at PEK. Whats with the hiring? Lots of people I know have had unsolicited emails from a certain agency downunder re Hainan and when questions were asked, replies were not forthcoming.
I now see Direct are visiting Oz's sunny shores to hire for SE Asia/ Pacific Rim. Get real- just call it China.
BTW, a certain Irish gentleman ex yours turned up here a while ago and must have got food poisoning (or was it something he drank?). He was too sick to fly the sim for the assesment!!!
The quest goes on here for Captains with a sense of adventure. Lots needed.
Saw a few of yours today at PEK. Whats with the hiring? Lots of people I know have had unsolicited emails from a certain agency downunder re Hainan and when questions were asked, replies were not forthcoming.
I now see Direct are visiting Oz's sunny shores to hire for SE Asia/ Pacific Rim. Get real- just call it China.
BTW, a certain Irish gentleman ex yours turned up here a while ago and must have got food poisoning (or was it something he drank?). He was too sick to fly the sim for the assesment!!!
The quest goes on here for Captains with a sense of adventure. Lots needed.
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Don't know much about what's happening with the Irish chap but you got it right with the agencies.
3 agencies are nipping at HNA's heals, all might put some candidates forward but Shenzhen are the ones who have stopped talking and started hiring.
Direct will be conducting interviews in OZ next month.
HNA are buying (leasing most) B737s from anybody who's hurting.
They need the Pilots.
Last few weeks, one more Dornier Jet from Germany737-300 from Eastern Europe and a 737-800 (all economy) from Shannon. The 738 from Shannon has a higher MTOW than any of their current 800s.
SHenzhen need 40 Captains I believe. HNA require 20 soon (When? Well how long is a piece of String?)
Don't know much about what's happening with the Irish chap but you got it right with the agencies.
3 agencies are nipping at HNA's heals, all might put some candidates forward but Shenzhen are the ones who have stopped talking and started hiring.
Direct will be conducting interviews in OZ next month.
HNA are buying (leasing most) B737s from anybody who's hurting.
They need the Pilots.
Last few weeks, one more Dornier Jet from Germany737-300 from Eastern Europe and a 737-800 (all economy) from Shannon. The 738 from Shannon has a higher MTOW than any of their current 800s.
SHenzhen need 40 Captains I believe. HNA require 20 soon (When? Well how long is a piece of String?)
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I don't know why the other poster jumped down your throat. I appreciate reading anything about other places in the world.
But what did you mean"if you get through the first 6 months"? Life at any airline is challenging in the first six months just learning how your employer does things "a little different" than you used to. Its only natural.
I don't know why the other poster jumped down your throat. I appreciate reading anything about other places in the world.
But what did you mean"if you get through the first 6 months"? Life at any airline is challenging in the first six months just learning how your employer does things "a little different" than you used to. Its only natural.
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Does the need for expat crews ever extend to Co-Pilots - or is that demand filled by locally trained crew? I am sure there are motivated and suitable pilots outside China who are still waiting for their "break" and would be happy to work in the right seat - me being one of them.
If there is any demand, would a type rating and / or experience on type be required?
Any feedback would be appreciated - thanks,
Fark!
If there is any demand, would a type rating and / or experience on type be required?
Any feedback would be appreciated - thanks,
Fark!