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Old 13th Mar 2004, 09:35
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Straits Times, 13.03.04

Capt Ryan Goh submits appeal against PR decision

Govt receives appeal of SIA pilot who was told his PR would be revoked after he was named as the instigator in Alpa-S ouster

By Rebecca Lee


SINGAPORE Airlines pilot Captain Ryan Goh, who has been served notice that his permanent resident status will be revoked, has appealed against the decision.

The Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) yesterday confirmed that Capt Goh, a Malaysian citizen, has made representations against the Controller of Immigration's intention to revoke his PR status.

On Friday, the ICA told Capt Goh of its intention to cancel his entry and re-entry permits, which are necessary for PRs here.
It was doing so as the Home Affairs Minister decided that Capt Goh was an 'undesirable immigrant' as specified by Section 8(3)(k) of the Immigration Act.

Capt Goh, 43, who has been a Singapore PR since 1981, was singled out by the Government as the 'instigator' behind last year's ouster of the executive committee of the Air Line Pilots Association-Singapore (Alpa-S).

The pilot, who declined comment when contacted, was given up till yesterday to say why his PR status should not be revoked.

Separately, the Manpower Ministry (MOM) has decided to allow three foreigners to sit on the executive council of Alpa-S, after its president Mok Hin Choon said he was shorthanded and needed them to help run the show.

It sent letters of approval to Captain George Howard Park and First Officers Srihari Vaidun and Viswanathan Nachiappan, who were elected in December but, according to the Trade Union Act, have to obtain the MOM's written approval to become union leaders.

They are all Singapore PRs.

Capt Park, a Malaysian who has been living here for 30 years, was delighted with the news.
'They don't have any doubts as to the credibility of my stake in Singapore. I'm here to stay for a very, very long time,' he said.

Capt Park, whose wife and daughter are Singaporeans, said he will consider taking up citizenship at a 'conducive time'.

'The letter of approval states very specifically that efforts to take up Singapore citizenship ought to be considered in the long term,' he said.

Similarly, First Officer Srihari Vaidun, an Indian national, said: 'I'm very happy that my application was approved. I hope to contribute to the union in whatever way I can.'

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Of course what the Senile Minister has done is the equivalent of a "Cathay 49'er" but by withdrawing the PR status of a single Malaysian ,a nationality without which SIA would cease to exist as it is in it's present size he has effectively silenced all opposition within SQ.

This will send a strong signal to any "johnny foreigner" that you do as you are told and keep quiet or else!!

SQ can claim it is nothing to do with them. They could have course sacked Capt Goh but that would have put SQ in the firing line whereas this way SQ get let off the hook!
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Old 14th Mar 2004, 11:12
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Quote:>>>Capt Ryan Goh submits appeal against PR decision<<<

It's just a waste of time, a pointless exercise on the part of Capt Goh. The emperor lee has decreed and the ICA must follow the emperor lee's whims and fancies.

Remember Pontius Pilate in the trial of Jesus Christ, when the Chief Priest and the ex-Chief Priest wanted to appeal against what Pilate had written about "Jesus King of the Jews", Pilate answered them: "What i have written, I have written!"

In the leepublic of Silly poors, the lee's written laws and unwritten laws are bloodvine of his empire. The (lee) empire strikes back.

That's leedership 101 for you!

All the best Capt Goh, you are a good man and a very good pilot and commander. God bless you and your family.
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On another thread, it appears that:

"SIA and Scandinavian Airlines, SAS, through Lagarhus Aviation Consulting, are collaborating in a deal whereby excess pilots from SAS would be given a 4 year contract with SIA at fairly good wages and benefits"

Singapore based Pprune readers will confirm that news of this potential deal, or the proposed USD salary/benefit levels has not yet appeared in the Straits Times. We can all, however, rest assured that space will suddenly become available within the august pages, once the Alpa-S CA negotiations have been concluded (ie Alpa-S has meekly accepted everything that is handed to them, following the time honoured "take it or leave it" "tripartite" formula) and that the usual crowing about Singapore being such an attractive ex-pat venue will then quickly ensue.

Would this be what the Senior Minister meant by "You play straight with me and I'll play straight with you"?
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Old 20th Mar 2004, 06:48
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Please, sir, my PR should not be revoked because... Shut up! Your PR is now officially revoked!


SIA pilot's PR status revoked, has 7 days to appeal to MHA

20 March 2004 1207 hrs (SST)

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori.../76335/1/.html

SINGAPORE : Singapore Airlines pilot Ryan Goh's permanent resident status has been revoked, and his entry and re-entry permits cancelled.

This came after the Controller of Immigration said representations made by the pilot did not adequately show why these should not be cancelled.

But he has seven days to appeal to the Home Affairs Minister against this decision.

The pilot was first informed by the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) earlier this month that his entry and re-entry permits would be cancelled.

The move to revoke his permanent resident status came after Home Affairs Minister Wong Kan Seng decided the pilot was an "undesirable immigrant".

He was then given seven days to make his representations to the Controller of Immigration against this decision.

Captain Goh had been singled out by Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew as the person who instigated the ouster of the former leadership of the Singapore Airlines Pilots' Union.

If his final appeal to the Home Affairs Minister fails as well, an ICA spokesperson told Channel NewsAsia the pilot will be given some time to settle his affairs in Singapore before he has to leave. - CNA
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Old 20th Mar 2004, 23:25
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Quote:>>>Would this be what the Senior Minister meant by "You play straight with me and I'll play straight with you"?<<<

Welcome to the truth about emperor lee, firstly,his words cannot be taken as Gospel truth, secondly, there is nothing straight about him except his eye slits. Period.
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Old 23rd Mar 2004, 23:26
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Straits Times, 24.03.04

Lessons to be learnt from SIA falling-out
By Rebecca Lee


THE public airing of the dispute between Singapore Airlines and its pilots may have blown over, with all sides having had their say.

However, one nagging thought remains: Why did the Government have to step in and go into the internal affairs of a commercial entity in the manner it did?

To be sure, the Government made its reasons for intervening clear. As the majority shareholder of SIA with a 57 per cent stake in the national carrier, it had the right to intervene.

Moreover, what was at stake was Singapore's position as an air hub, whose contribution to the country's economy is not to be snubbed. Add to that Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew's personal involvement in helping to build up Changi Airport and SIA.

The fear that the worst might happen - unions taking a hardline approach and initiating industrial action - meant the Government had to step in to prevent matters from spiralling out of control.
What if it hadn't intervened?

Perhaps the matter would have been resolved amicably behind closed doors.

Or perhaps industrial relations in SIA would have degenerated into strife and chaos.

However, this is now a moot point. We will never know.
In the end, the intervention, and indeed the entire episode, can be boiled down to a matter of political judgment.

Yet, even if one agrees that the Government was right to nip the problem in the bud, a troubling issue remains: Why could SIA not be trusted to resolve the problem internally?

On this point, perhaps the pilots' union and the Government were not so far apart after all: Neither had 100 per cent faith in SIA's management to resolve its human resource issues.


The Government itself has had to bear part of the cost, because it has had to expend political capital on the problem and leave the impression it was high-handed.

But now, as the episode draws to a close - at least publicly as all sides have agreed to bring it back behind closed doors - what are the lessons to be learnt from SIA's experience?

During the debacle, SIA union leaders spoke bitterly of a change in the culture of their workplace over the last three years or so.

They said the work environment had morphed from being a family-spirited one to a place where a 'culture of fear' reigned, where employees were often threatened with the sack.


Perhaps these complaints ought to be set against the backdrop of the wrenching changes the aviation industry has been through these last few years.

The Sept 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, followed by the war in Iraq and the Sars outbreak last year battered an industry that was already in the midst of a shakeout.

The growing threat from budget airlines, coupled with the external crises, jolted major airlines the world over to go into cost-cutting mode - laying off thousands - to ensure their long-term survival.

Arguably, SIA's management skilfully navigated the airline through the crises and delivered results - on the profit front.
The airline made $631.7 million for the year ended March 31, 2002, at a time when the global aviation industry, littered with the carcasses of some long-established airlines, raked up total losses of US$12 billion (S$20.4 billion) and shed more than 200,000 jobs.

However, one department - the company's relations with its employees - was clearly scarred.

Employees who had to suffer wage cuts felt the company, hitherto highly profitable, had 'cried wolf', as SIA chairman Koh Boon Hwee put it in an inhouse newsletter early last year.

The workers felt they were bearing the brunt of cost-cutting measures in order to enrich shareholders.

Clearly too, a sense of having been shortchanged and a mistrust of management seeped into the same company culture that had made them fearful of losing their jobs.


It didn't help matters that Sars hit when the airline's business looked to be on the mend. This time, not only were wages cut again, but also close to 600 employees were laid off.

The crises served up a reality check that the fat and happy payout days - when SIA employees could get as much as six months' annual bonuses - were over.

The work culture, often described simply as 'the way we do things around here', was also said to have changed.

When SIA laid off employees for the first time in its history, it broke an unspoken compact it had with employees - the sense that it was a family which would go through thick and thin together.

This shift in management culture unsettled workers, hit their morale and ultimately could affect their performance.


SIA's management may be skilled at hedging against fuel price or foreign exchange fluctuations and managing the airline's capacity against passenger demand. But it may have overlooked the manner in which it executed its decisions and the impact it would have on employees.

The business of rebuilding a conducive work culture is complex, made worse by the fact that it is intangible.

But ultimately, for a company whose business is in providing service, where the morale of employees is paramount, this is one area it must fix - fast.

Other similarly large companies trying to remake themselves, beware. When management shifts gears, it must take care to look behind to see if the rest of the team understands where the new destination is.
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Old 25th Mar 2004, 00:19
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Thanks to Jstars2 for posting this rambling piece by our favourite columnist Rebecca Lee. I couldn't find it in the online version of the Straitened Times.
I'm not sure what exactly she's trying to say but do I detect a hint of sympathy on Ms Lee's part for the much-maligned employees of SIA? That's a turn-up for the books.
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Former SIA CEO, Dr Cheong has certainly left something of a legacy. Not only has he been responsible for the multi billion dollar loses incurred during his ill-fated forays into Air New Zealand and Ansett (both of which organizations any reasonably well informed SIA pilot could have warned to stay well away from – but then why bother listening to these half-wits when a fortune can be spent on professional due diligence “experts”?), he has fouled the SIA nest, before flying off to DBS, leaving the biggest HR debacle in the airline’s whole history.

Would he still be judged “Business Man of the Year” by Fortune magazine, as he was, post the ’98 financial crisis, or would a more searching and reflective appraisal now be made of the great man’s overall performance?

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The trouble is, highcirrus , that to now publicise all his shortcomings would be tantamount to admitting that whoever appointed him in the first place got it all wrong, bet you can't guess who appointed him?
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Old 25th Mar 2004, 10:30
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Rebecca Lee, brilliant article; I'd like to marry you! Although you specifically discuss SIA affairs, your views are equally valid to many other beancounter driven airlines without the Singapore mentality.
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Is this Rebecca Lee a local?
If so, suspect that she will find herself assigned to outer Mongolia, or some other equally remote location.
How dare she question SQ management motives?

Or, their performance
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High Cirrus,
You can rant on and on ad nauseam about Cheong's performance as CEO but you have to admit, when it comes to the bottom line (profit or loss), SIA has been and continues to be a pretty well-managed company (even if they do do it on the backs of their pilots and other employees). And Cheong's successor, Chew, has had plenty of time to improve labour relations within SIA. This he has signally failed to do (because he can't extricate himself from the long shadow cast by the SM?).
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Come on - we all know that nothing, absolutley nothing, that has any form of national interest is published without the consent of the Lee management team!!

This is simply the "managment" allowing a "balanced" view to be published!
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Not too sure that my style is one of ad nauseam rant – I certainly don’t feel that I’m consumed by rabid polemic whenever I’m calmly setting my thoughts down. In fact I feel my style is more of amused contempt for the almost daily machinations displayed in Asia’s very own Truman Show. However, I’ll now spend a little more time reviewing my words before posting!

In terms of managing the SIA jugernought, Dr Cheong, or indeed any other appointed cipher merely has to steer the ship, “steady as she goes”, until in receipt of course changes telegraphed down from You-Know-Who on the bridge and, as we all know, disregard all human considerations in running the business which methodology has, to date, been the basis of Standing Orders for many years. This feature, rather than Cheong’s managerial competence, coupled with magnificent finance from owners Temasek Holdings (prop. Lee dynasty), a monopoly of all Singapore route licences/bi-laterals/fifth freedoms, draconian labor laws and a very smart marketing operation has ensured financial success for the airline over the years.

As a corollary, I was perhaps being unfair to Cheong for castigating his multi-billion dollar errors of judgment, as the acquisition decisions were clearly not his but were of course made, again, by You-Know-Who and which decisions once more dispel the notion of omnipotent infallibility.

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Absolutely spot on!

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Straits Times, 26.03.04

Ryan Goh makes PR appeal to minister


SINGAPORE Airlines pilot Ryan Goh yesterday appealed against a decision by the Controller of Immigration to revoke his permanent residency (PR) status.

He submitted the appeal to the Home Affairs Minister, a ministry spokesman said.

'The minister is currently looking into his appeal,' she said, adding that it was inappropriate to comment further for now. There was no indication on when the minister would respond.

Captain Goh was given notice last Saturday that his PR status had been revoked and that he had seven days to appeal.

In a text message to The Straits Times yesterday, he declined to comment on the appeal, saying it was 'premature to talk about plans'.

The 43-year-old Malaysian pilot was singled out by the Government as the 'instigator' behind last year's ouster of the executive committee of the Air Line Pilots Association-Singapore (Alpa-S).

On March 5, the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) informed him of its intention to cancel his entry and re-entry permits, which are necessary for permanent residents here.

The action was initiated after the Home Affairs Minister 'decided that Mr Goh was an undesirable immigrant'.

He was given seven days to show why his permits should not be revoked. He made representations shortly after.

But it was rejected as the ICA said that he 'did not adequately show why' he could keep his permits and it revoked his PR status.

He was then given seven days to file another appeal - this time against the revocation - to the Home Affairs Minister.

If his appeal fails, he will have to leave the country as the minister has the final say on the matter.

But it is understood that the authorities could still give him some time to settle his affairs here.

Capt Goh, who has an apartment in the East Coast, is also an Australian permanent resident and has a house in Perth. The Government has said that he had made an 'exit plan' before instigating the ouster.
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Quote:>>>If his appeal fails, he will have to leave the country as the minister has the final say on the matter.<<<

Although, Capt Rayan Goh has sent his appeal to the Minister of Home Affairs,
in reality, the minister who "has the final say" is senior minister lee kuan yew.

That's leedership 101 in the land of the Silly poors.
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All SIA Unions (only union in name since in reality they are nothing else but a bunch of frightened employees) are ordered to the office of LKY on April 5th. No agenda set.
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You all need to look back deep into Singapore's history. The Island was a center for slave trade.

For example a main land Chinese would be lured to the island with the promise of a teaching job. Upon arrival he would become a slave. If he were to get sick and unable to perform his slave duties, he would be taken to a room and hanged.

This is no B.S. folks. Referenced from a program on Singapore television called 'The history of COLLIES' (spelling may not be correct), produced in Singapore.

If you understand this concept and past history, you will then understand the mentality of this idiot Lee Kuan Yew.

All of you working and living in Singapore have to face it, live and love to embrace it. You are all slaves. Street cleaner or driver of a 100 million dollar jet, it makes no difference to the master.
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"You all need to look back deep into Singapore's history. The Island was a center for slave trade.

For example a main land Chinese would be lured to the island with the promise of a teaching job. Upon arrival he would become a slave. If he were to get sick and unable to perform his slave duties, he would be taken to a room and hanged.

This is no B.S. folks. Referenced from a program on Singapore television called 'The history of COLLIES' (spelling may not be correct), produced in Singapore"

WHAT A LOAD OF CROCK!!!
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