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ttwt0910 8th Dec 2022 01:46

Application revoked
 
Hi,I have done the aptitude test a week ago, but not yet receive any email, but my application on the Cathay portal has gone, does it means that I have failed? Thank you

sweet19 15th Dec 2022 12:44


Originally Posted by trigonometry (Post 11339043)
Just did my final interview this morning. It was super EASY!
Thought they were going to grill me hard on planes and basic aerodynamics stuff like that. None!

Interesting. I had my final interview recently, but this was not my experience. The technical portion was indeed technical with questions about aerodynamics and various systems on the plane like which system/part controls xyz and how does it work? Answers were followed by more in-depth questions until I couldn't answer any further.

Also, how long did you guys wait before receiving an offer/rejection after the final interview?

aviatorstudent 16th Dec 2022 04:14

I know a few people that got an acceptance email on the same day.

Rithfung 16th Dec 2022 06:46


Originally Posted by sweet19 (Post 11348332)
Interesting. I had my final interview recently, but this was not my experience. The technical portion was indeed technical with questions about aerodynamics and various systems on the plane like which system/part controls xyz and how does it work? Answers were followed by more in-depth questions until I couldn't answer any further.

Also, how long did you guys wait before receiving an offer/rejection after the final interview?

What? People on the internet could be lying?? No wayyyyyy

I dont know others but friends I know can't get a ICAO 5 because of accent, also there are exactly 0 candidates I heard receive medical check mail in 3 hours.
Usually it take 7 to 10 days before receiving medical check mail, at least thats my case.

And I got drill many technical questions as well, like wind correction concept, force feed back, decompression etc, so yeah I dont think it was THAT easy.


Or maybe I am the one lying lol

sweet19 16th Dec 2022 07:10


Originally Posted by Rithfung (Post 11348834)
What? People on the internet could be lying?? No wayyyyyy

I dont know others but friends I know can't get a ICAO 5 because of accent, also there are exactly 0 candidates I heard receive medical check mail in 3 hours.
Usually it take 7 to 10 days before receiving medical check mail, at least thats my case.

And I got drill many technical questions as well, like wind correction concept, force feed back, decompression etc, so yeah I dont think it was THAT easy.


Or maybe I am the one lying lol

Thanks!

How well do you think you did in the technical interview on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being perfect? Were there any questions you just couldn't answer? I'd love to hear more about your experience.

henderson0117 16th Dec 2022 07:11

you're not lying but it's clear that information on the Internet isn't accurate

whitsunday 16th Dec 2022 08:30


Originally Posted by Rithfung (Post 11348834)
What? People on the internet could be lying?? No wayyyyyy

I dont know others but friends I know can't get a ICAO 5 because of accent, also there are exactly 0 candidates I heard receive medical check mail in 3 hours.
Usually it take 7 to 10 days before receiving medical check mail, at least thats my case.

And I got drill many technical questions as well, like wind correction concept, force feed back, decompression etc, so yeah I dont think it was THAT easy.


Or maybe I am the one lying lol

Comparing to our selection process in our time, Yes, It is THAT easy.
By the way, everyone is lying these days, so what's the surprise? Even CX People Department lied about upgrade time at the interview. They tell you 3 years and then turns into 5-6 years, plenty of real examples out there.
Also, just because you don't know what you don't doesn't mean it does not exist. There are heaps of SOs out there who have a heavy accent, and they are ICAO level 5 pilot, flown with plenty of them before.

This new CX recruitment team is still testing the water, folks who used to be overseeing the process have gone, not all, but most of them, I wouldn't be surprise if someone had a different experiences then the other, afterall, nothing is fixed and
guaranteed at CX, including your EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT.

ChrissyPrezzie 16th Dec 2022 11:16

So true. Cathay is probably one of the most deceitful companies in the world. Speaking of upgrade, a friend of mine used to be so crazy about the icadetship scheme. He applied the program about six years ago, smart enough to make it the final. At the interview, he asked the panel how long he needed to be a relief pilot before getting that promotion, they told him about 3 years, he was like, okay, 3 years of my life wasted in the cockpit, that’s okay for me, so he signed on the dot, six years later, you think he would be a First Officer by now? Wrong! He’s still a Second Office, turns out there were heaps of Direct Entry SOs, FOs, CNs jumping in the queue, 6 years on and he is still counting, and in between there is covid, the quarantine restrictions…looking back, he was like, I feel like I am being used…”about three years” how funny is that.

Rithfung 16th Dec 2022 11:32


Originally Posted by sweet19 (Post 11348847)
Thanks!

How well do you think you did in the technical interview on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being perfect? Were there any questions you just couldn't answer? I'd love to hear more about your experience.

I guess i am a 7/8? Every topic they ask I can explain the principles, and know enough real life examples, but I wish I can do better about control surface characteristics...

If you want we can discuss in pm, newjoiner discussion isn't very welcome here lol

aspiringp 16th Dec 2022 12:41

Hi everyone,

I hope you are all doing well. I just want to thank those of you who replied to my previous post!
Once again, I am here to bother you all with a very trivial question.
I have been hearing conflicting information regarding the salary of a cadet pilot. Some have told me there is no salary because it is just a sponsored training course. Others have said there will be a salary. I tried doing my own research, but with no luck. On the careers page, benefits include an annual salary, but with the description "based on achieving target annual block hours". Cadets are training pilots so there are no block hours to achieve...
Could anyone knock some reality into me and tell me what benefits are offered to successful candidates throughout their "training period".

Thank you in advance.

AstridLLL 16th Dec 2022 14:51

I have received the invitation for the computer based test 2 days ago. Anyone who has similar process with me, feel free to reach out.

btw, I’m located overseas now. CX said I can complete the the ICAO at later stages. Would it be after / before the panel interview assuming I can pass the computer based test.

Cheers !

aviatorstudent 17th Dec 2022 04:48


Originally Posted by AstridLLL (Post 11349100)
I have received the invitation for the computer based test 2 days ago. Anyone who has similar process with me, feel free to reach out.

btw, I’m located overseas now. CX said I can complete the the ICAO at later stages. Would it be after / before the panel interview assuming I can pass the computer based test.

Cheers !

It would be before the panel interview.

whitsunday 17th Dec 2022 06:53


Originally Posted by aspiringp (Post 11349031)
Hi everyone,

I hope you are all doing well. I just want to thank those of you who replied to my previous post!
Once again, I am here to bother you all with a very trivial question.
I have been hearing conflicting information regarding the salary of a cadet pilot. Some have told me there is no salary because it is just a sponsored training course. Others have said there will be a salary. I tried doing my own research, but with no luck. On the careers page, benefits include an annual salary, but with the description "based on achieving target annual block hours". Cadets are training pilots so there are no block hours to achieve...
Could anyone knock some reality into me and tell me what benefits are offered to successful candidates throughout their "training period".

Thank you in advance.

Historically speaking, cadets did not get paid with salary down in FTA, rather, they received some allowance from the company so that they can go out with their mates when they are not flying. (Not a lot I am sure about that) And because of that, folks who have family and kids needed to think twice and thrice before taking that deal. That was before covid. Now, since they split the training in two locations, 6 months in Hong Kong, 6 months somewhere else, I am not sure if they will ever entertain with that idea. But one thing for sure is, you will not get paid with full salary, even if they give you money, it won't be a lot for sure.

The salary package you see on the website, that is for those who have completed the training, who are offered a job as a Second Officer, not for Cadets. It is so misleading I know, they should have put a remark or change some of the wording, but, again, this is Cathay Pacific we are talking about here.


AstridLLL 17th Dec 2022 14:25


Originally Posted by aviatorstudent (Post 11349446)
It would be before the panel interview.

Thank you !

aviatorstudent 18th Dec 2022 13:04

Final interview
 
I have my Final Interview in a few days and it's been split into 2 days HR and Technical. Would be great if people could reply or message me what questions they got so I can prepare for it, much appreciated, thanks!

ChrissyPrezzie 18th Dec 2022 17:18


Originally Posted by aspiringp (Post 11349031)
Hi everyone,

I hope you are all doing well. I just want to thank those of you who replied to my previous post!
Once again, I am here to bother you all with a very trivial question.
I have been hearing conflicting information regarding the salary of a cadet pilot. Some have told me there is no salary because it is just a sponsored training course. Others have said there will be a salary. I tried doing my own research, but with no luck. On the careers page, benefits include an annual salary, but with the description "based on achieving target annual block hours". Cadets are training pilots so there are no block hours to achieve...
Could anyone knock some reality into me and tell me what benefits are offered to successful candidates throughout their "training period".

Thank you in advance.

50 percent discount on getting all your licenses plus a guaranteed employment as a relief pilot for 3+ years plus some pocket money, that's the benefit you get as a cadet. I say 50 percent is because you will have to give up monthly allowance for three years involuntarily after they offer you a job, and the total of three years allowances makes up half of the training cost. For the record, it used to be 100 percent discount up until just a few years ago.

gowiththeflow 19th Dec 2022 04:50

Hi ya'll. Got a quick question. What happened if I failed ground school or flight training, will CX ever make me pay back half of the training fees? I sent my enquiry to both the recruiting manager and flight crew recruitment inbox about three weeks ago, but no one responded to my enquiry, it is getting so frustrating! Anyone can help?

waiwai2022 28th Dec 2022 00:25


Originally Posted by aviatorstudent (Post 11350266)
I have my Final Interview in a few days and it's been split into 2 days HR and Technical. Would be great if people could reply or message me what questions they got so I can prepare for it, much appreciated, thanks!

Hi mate. How was the interview? To what standard of technical questions were asked? I will be having mine in a few days so any advice would be great!

USIS 29th Dec 2022 10:59


Originally Posted by waiwai2022 (Post 11355323)
Hi mate. How was the interview? To what standard of technical questions were asked? I will be having mine in a few days so any advice would be great!

Hello, just curious if you are having panel interview splitting into two days too?

waiwai2022 3rd Jan 2023 06:57

yes. The process is now split into 2 days.

AstridLLL 5th Jan 2023 08:44


Originally Posted by aviatorstudent (Post 11349446)
It would be before the panel interview.

Update: for others who is also located oversea

ICAO will be after the final interview (tech)
HR said both ICAO and medical can be done in parallel if you pass the final interview so you only have to go back to hk once.

tpbob 6th Jan 2023 08:00

Hey everyone , does anyone know how long it takes for the medical assessment to come back? much thanks!

whitsunday 6th Jan 2023 12:33

Living in Hong Kong? Pay 2000 bucks first before saying anything. Oh it's not refundable by the way. So if you fail at the interview, that's it. You can't get your money back.
Living in overseas? No worry. We will only make you pay after you pass the interview, a way to attract you to give it a shot. Poor locals.
Remind me, whose idea to outsource the test and move it up in the first place? Oh. I remember. Rachel Shieff, the former Cathay ICAO Specialist, as now became a mindset coach in her own gig...

bankertocadet 7th Jan 2023 08:34

Whats up guys, had my final tech interview few days ago,
can share with you guys the questions

Tell me about yourself
Layers of atmosphere?
Why troposphere in some places is higher / lower?
Is the earth really a sphere?
Have you done any flying?
What did you do in your flying?
What is a spin?
How do you get out of a spin?
What is a jet stream?
What is the most turbulent part of the jet stream?
Why
What is a stall?
What's the difference between a spin and a spiral dive?
How to get out of a stall?
Whats your favorite topic of aviation?
Tell me about the 747
Whats the difference between -400 / -8
Why the -8 has raked wingtips and -400 has winglets?
whats the difference between the two?
Have you ever failed and tried again and passed?

samngng 9th Jan 2023 10:15

Batch classification
 
Hi everyone, recently I receive offers with my friends
We would like to know whats the difference of batch name start with
CP
CX
CPA?

darrelkwai 9th Jan 2023 14:03


Originally Posted by bankertocadet (Post 11361356)
Whats up guys, had my final tech interview few days ago,
can share with you guys the questions

Tell me about yourself
Layers of atmosphere?
Why troposphere in some places is higher / lower?
Is the earth really a sphere?
Have you done any flying?
What did you do in your flying?
What is a spin?
How do you get out of a spin?
What is a jet stream?
What is the most turbulent part of the jet stream?
Why
What is a stall?
What's the difference between a spin and a spiral dive?
How to get out of a stall?
Whats your favorite topic of aviation?
Tell me about the 747
Whats the difference between -400 / -8
Why the -8 has raked wingtips and -400 has winglets?
whats the difference between the two?
Have you ever failed and tried again and passed?

Do they ask questions based on your flying experience and degree? What if you have no experience flying, and study a totally unrelated degree. I study finance btw.

17zhangtr1 9th Jan 2023 23:03


Originally Posted by samngng (Post 11362645)
Hi everyone, recently I receive offers with my friends
We would like to know whats the difference of batch name start with
CP
CX
CPA?

CP = legacy course (FTA full year)
CX = integrated with PolyU (half year in Poly, 8-10 months in Phoenix)
CPA = integrated at CX city (ground school at CX, then flying in FTA, mainly for CPL holders I think)

bankertocadet 10th Jan 2023 02:18


Originally Posted by darrelkwai (Post 11362762)
Do they ask questions based on your flying experience and degree? What if you have no experience flying, and study a totally unrelated degree. I study finance btw.

I believe so. I have 0 hours, studied business degree. I'm currently working as a Banker.

Rithfung 11th Jan 2023 00:06

Little extra news, from those who accepted into CX4 seems changed into CPA3, which study in Cathay House for ground school instead......

unbakedmirrors 11th Jan 2023 04:18

Hello, just wondering if passes in gcse subjects are accepted as requirement? I did not finish high school and was thinking to self study the subjects.

unbakedmirrors 11th Jan 2023 04:20

Adding to my previous reply is i worked in IT for 10 years now and considering career change to aviation. thanks, any advice would help.

nicoz5082 13th Jan 2023 04:26

What’s the waiting time after aptitude test nowadays?
anyone been through that recently?

R0gueone 13th Jan 2023 08:55

Cadet
 
Has anyone on the thread applied recently and got dates for apt tests/interviews?

jakredflight 18th Jan 2023 15:32


Originally Posted by trigonometry (Post 11339043)
Just did my final interview this morning. It was super EASY!
Thought they were going to grill me hard on planes and basic aerodynamics stuff like that. None!
They just asked me some simple questions. Questions like tell me a bit about yourself, why do you want to become a pilot, what makes a good pilot, do you think you have those qualities etc..
Within three hours I got an email saying that I passed. Phew! Now waiting to book for medical exam.
Anyone who interested in my experiences, feel free to send me a PM. I would love to share.

P.S. Don't worry much about the ICAO thing. It is super easy to get level 4. I did not prepare for the test and I spoke with a thick Hong Kong accent. They gave me level 5! The aptitude test is super easy as well. I got 6 wrong answers in tracking and I still passed. So don't worry much.

PM me if you have questions!

Hi there trigonometry! Glad to hear that you have passed the cadet interview, I have just received an invitation for interview and I am kind of struggling in the monitoring test (counting balls), I have tried to keep practicing it over and over, still not having an optimal performance, do you have any recommendations or tips you may suggest?

Also, I noticed that you mentioned the tech interview was relatively easy, can I know do you have any flying experience before? If so, how many hours have you got?

If you find it comfortable, you may reach me through on telegram: t.me/santoris42 (Username: santoris42).

Thanks a lot for your assistance! Look forward for you reply! :)

jakredflight 20th Jan 2023 09:46

Hi there R0gueone. The processing times should be within 1 month to as short as 1 day, just make sure you have submitted all the documents in proper format, and this will quicken the way they handle your applications.

LatestPilotJobs / PASS or any other platforms are great ways for you to practice for the whole interview.

Good luck for your interview and all the best.
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CXKR2022 23rd Jan 2023 06:44

Do I have to meet an Ophthalmologist for CX medical check?
 
Hi all, Can anyone tell me how the CX initial medical check was?
Do they ask you to meet an eye doctor or does AME just do it all?

I have no problem with FAA and ICAO class 1 medical standards but I'm not sure how it will be if I have to meet an ophthalmologist as I have corneal dystrophy.

Also, it would be highly appreciated if you could share the detailed experience with CX medical check.

Thank you in advance.

17zhangtr1 24th Jan 2023 23:28


Originally Posted by trigonometry (Post 11370945)
jakredflight, I don't want to disappoint you but I did not prepare any of the tests. I just did not have the time. There was only a day or two between tests/interview which came in a surprise to me. And that's how I sensed of their desperation. They did not ask me any questions about planes at all, maybe because I am a zero hour guy. But I heard they have changed their interview style recently, so essentially you are gonna be looking at two round of interviews after you passed the cut-e test, day one, HR interview and day two, technical interview. I was lucky enough to be offered a place on the program but unfortunately I turned it down. Just can't get over the fact that I have to sit here for 4/5 years before I can fly a god damn plane. Afterall I want to fly, not sit here and watching somebody else to fly. Not fun. Good luck!

R0gueone, don't be silly, whether it is a video interview or in person interview it is still an interview. Unless you are going to dress up provocatively to seduce the interviewers I don't see how it matters. You should be asking smart questions, not the stupid ones. I mean if you wanted to succeed in your application.

Trigonometry, there are many reasons to not pursue/start your career as a pilot with CX as a cadet but being “forced” to be an SO and not fly planes for 4/5 years is not one of them. Very few (and dare I say no) airline will put you straight into the RHS of a wide-body to conduct take offs and landings as a zero hour guy. Qantas only hire SOs and similarly UA wide-body pilots start out as IROs. A career as an SO is what you make out of it (more than just babysitting the A/P) and the operational skills, knowledge, and experience you build will more than make up for the lack of “stick flying”.

Assuming you are not in your 50s, the 4/5 years as an SO is a drop in the bucket when compared to the 20/30/40+ years of flying you will have. Besides, even when you do make FO/CA, how much how hand flying will you do? 45 secs out of a 13 hour LH flight? I think you need to ask yourself if you truly understand what being a pilot is like and similarly what type of pilot you want to be (LH/Regional/Charter/Instructor?).

whitsunday 25th Jan 2023 07:30


Originally Posted by 17zhangtr1 (Post 11373185)
A career as an SO is what you make out of it (more than just babysitting the A/P) and the operational skills, knowledge, and experience you build will more than make up for the lack of “stick flying”.

Yeah there are so much about observing rather than getting hands-on experience, that’s why Dragon has to shut because they allowed their cadets to fly as JFO…Yeah, time does not matter because you are going to live a long life. A few years stuck at the jump seat is worth it..assuming you are still healthy and safe and nothing bad happened. Meanwhile the world keeps spinning and your peers keep promoting, you? I went through the CX stream, took me just under 2 years to climb on a rank. Now? God knows.

ChrissyPrezzie 25th Jan 2023 16:50

https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...-cathay-dragon


You will receive more information about joining Cathay Dragon in Hong Kong as a First Officer upon successful completion of the Cadet Pilot programme.

For enquiries, please email [email protected].

Cathay Dragon is an Equal Opportunities Employer. Personal data provided by job applicants will be used strictly in accordance with our personal data policy and for recruitment purposes only. All data will be kept on file for up to 24 months from the last date of submission or update.
Same program, two different outcome. Now everyone has to be forced to take on a longer route. How sad it is.

Boulanger 25th Jan 2023 23:38


Originally Posted by 17zhangtr1 (Post 11373185)
Trigonometry, there are many reasons to not pursue/start your career as a pilot with CX as a cadet but being “forced” to be an SO and not fly planes for 4/5 years is not one of them.

Actually it is. That 4/5 years (outdated) is more like 7+ these days as CX keeps hiring DEFOs in front of you. During the time as SO, the only logbook hours that you earn is relief time, which is not transferrable experience to a vast majority of airlines around the globe. So, you will be stuck in a role for an extensible period of time, and without the experience that provide you with any form of mobility and security. It is a dead-end job, and if you search online to what a dead-end job means, you will quickly find (especially if you end up in the position CX offers you) that this role meets every single criteria.

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