If any top brass is reading your words here they would be absolutely delighted to see and they have no regret with what they did on POS18. Coz you have just proved them right. Reminds of the chicks who blindly chasing after "Mirror" on the street.

Ex boyfriend used to work for CX Dragon as a First Officer. At the interview he was given a choice to choose between CX and CX Dragon, he chose the latter, even though he hated to fly into China, I asked him why, he simply said, A) I did not want to be a babysitter for X years, B) CX is a sinking ship and I needed the hours as fast as I can. Even though he was sacked three years ago just like everyone else, he managed to seek employment with a US major airline, had his green card sorted out and now he's enjoying his free life. He told me, if I was a CX SO and I got sacked, I could not possibly find anyone to hire me with my P2X, because, apart from Cathay Pacific, no airlines in the world would consider my application, because I'm on P2X.

Honestly, I think the people who are so clinging on the cadetship scheme really underestimate the impact of P2X. All their eyes are fixing on the brand, on free lunch, on the guaranteed employment and the sort..If nothing happens then good for you, keep waiting, but if God forbid some catastrophe happen, such as Covid or any policy changes which result in 90 per cent of the fleet being grounded then you are trapped. Did I also mention that they are desperately seeking for Direct Entry First Officer as well? Many left but the line hasn’t changed.

That’s the reason I walked away.

An absolutely accurate assessment. The P2X is the bane of every SOs' existence, and until that changes, people who join do so at their peril. The greater problem these days is that CX has broken their own progression system. There is no real "line" anymore, with no limits on how long you can be stuck in the role.

A few years ago, before CX tore up everyones' contract, joining as an SO made sense. You would get in line and wait your turn for an upgrade based on seniority. There were annual pay increments up to the forth year, and every time the company hired a direct entry FO ahead of you, you would receive bypass pay, which grants you an FO salary while you awaited your turn. Additionally, the HKCAD also provided a guideline that it is expected that you do not hold a P2X for five years.

​​​​Now, there is no line. Upgrades are based on what fleet you get, and you don't really have a choice on where you end up. People with more experience may jump ahead of you. There is no longer bypass pay, and the company even laughs at the suggestion. DEFOs are hired at an unprecedented rate. The HKCAD also removed the five year guideline. There are only two pay grades now for SO, with the highest one lower than the first tier of what it was before. So, you could be stuck in the role for a very long time, not build any transferrable hours, deal with a perpetual pay ceiling, and the added stress of aging while watching possibly younger guys who were hired after you fly the airplane. Oh, and did you know that CX is also one of the pioneering airlines flirting with the idea of single pilot operations during cruise on the airbus?

Not trying to deter anyone, but you best consider whether the stuff happening in the latter paragraph is in anyway acceptable for you on your career path. Good luck.

https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...program-916138

It's happening...

Not surprised. CX is turning to a Chinese Airlines sure they would love to screw our Mainland counterparts. And the good thing is, people from the North are actually willing to be screwed. How funny is that.

Has anyone with prior flight experience and/or a PPL done the final interviews recently? Can you please share the questions that you were asked? Any other info would be appreciated!
Thanks!

Hi Astrid, how long did it take you to hear back re your application? Did you have to go back to hk for your Computer based assessments?

Looking for people to practice mock-in/interview questions with.

Bang on!

Tech interview
 

Hi guys i have my hr and tech interview soon

is anyone keen to share their experience re both? It would be much appreciated. Pls pm me

Hi guys

i am seeking your advice for the selection process
my application was submitted on 7/2 and still no news so far

is anyone keen to share their experience re both? It would be much appreciated. Pls pm me

Are you that lazy? Or you are actually deepenbhai?

LOL what the heck

Hi KinGsDowN

Some rumours says if you don’t owns any flying experience, you will be placed in a latter position than applicants who have had.
Applicants who with flying experience usually will be contacted within 1~2 weeks
For whom haven’t, you will expect a much longer radio silence, some says up to 2 months

wish you will get your reply soon, at the same time, keep yourself busy and fit for ICAO English Exam & Aptitude Test
prior preparation prevent poor performance
Good Luck

That is just not true. I have friends who waited two weeks for the ICAO thing and they don't even have any hours under their belt.
I guess it's all about the stuff that you put in on your application and that includes the cover letter. Remember, you are beating against the Applicant Tracking System (ATS), meaning AI.
If your apps can't pass the robot then there is no way it will get into the human's hands.
Same goes to any other jobs in any other industry.

Hi Guys,

Just finished the final interview tech part last Thur.
Received calls from Cathay asking me to submit my medical records based on my medical in confidence from.
Is that a good sign showing I might passed the final interview?

Its been a week and I am quite nervous about it...
How long in average you guys will receive the invitation to medical check?

Hey guys, if application has disappeared from portal, does it mean you're unsuccessful? :(

yes, usually you can reapply 9 months later

It's positive about your final interview. Once you submitted all required documents, they will contact you in 1-2 weeks time and arrange a medical assessment in cxc

Anyone with flying experience went to the final stage interview recently ?
Did they drill deep into your aviation knowledge?
Please DM me if so.
Thanks in advance

What's the secret? Why can't anybody share the info with everyone here? Fear of CCP? Look at Singapore Cadet Thread. They are openly exchanging information/idea with one another. Very interesting to read!!

Im guessing people think of each other as potential competitors, so why would they share information that gives them an advantage.

Then they are idiots. They have no idea what's going on with Cathay.

I thinks it's more the comments like these and the constant negativity that is putting people off.

For those that were invited to the medical assessment, how long did it take you guys to receive your email invite? My application is still in the portal and it's been a week since my interview

Hi RidingWings
I am sry to hear that
how long did it take to disappear from your last interview?

It takes around 2 weeks for me to receive my invitation to medical assessment.

Please make sure your passport(s) are valid. If you are confidence that you are going to pass the interviews, it is a good time for you to get your passport renewal.

If you wear glasses, you will need 2 pairs of glasses with prescription from optometrist.

The gap between the assessment and the final interview is a good time for you to get yourself prepared.

Hope to see you in the cockpit, all the best!

Hey HermannGuwalgiya,
Would you mind sharing your timeline of the entire application to medical process?

Funny. People who asked that question after a week or two are usually the ones that does not have confidence about the interview.
Otherwise they would have been just patiently waiting and stay away from here, as somebody might say, too much negativity
Think the Gen Z needs to learn to be patient.

It took me about a year to reach medical process.

The process speeds up really fast after you passed the CUT-E assessments.

I guess they were a bit in a hurry to expand their fleet, so they response faster then what you heard from the internet.

Cannot image how these guys/gals can pass the 5-7 years itch when they can't even wait for 14 days to get a result..

Hence the bond, the 50 per cent discount training fees, and, COS18 of course.

Cc
 

Question. If you already have CPL and apply, do you still complete the 1 year training as if you were training from scratch? Im in my early 30s, got my CPL nearly 2 years ago but didnt go for the instructor route because of financial reasons (needed 30~40k).

Ive missed the chance to apply for the second officer role so was wondering what happens if I apply to the cadet programme. Looks like people with experience have applied in the past but cant seem to find more info on this.

Im am married but no kids though. I could fly as an instructor for 3 years before getting picked up by air new zealand and fly turbo for another 5 before getting jet time. Thinking 5~7years as second officer at CX wont be that bad?

I am a NZ citizen though but i guess i can fall under "right to work" with the right visa?

I would assume that if you apply for the cadet programme, you go through the cadet programme. if you're overqualified for the programme, I would assume they might not accept you, as it's a programme for cadets.

Side note: if you already have a CPL and you apply for a cadetship just so you can get yourself a job at CX as they're no longer hiring DESOs, then you'd be a bit of a prick for taking the opportunity away from someone who actually needed it.

They used to offer a 30 weeks program if you have CPL and all required hours, it's called "Advanced Entry", but I'm not too sure if they are still running it, as you know, things have changed a lot at CX. Right now they seriously need to fill DEFOs, cause that's where the demand is headed, the ones that are on the Ab initio are for the future use. You should write to the recruiting manager and see what she has to say.

Elene Cheng, Talent Acquisition Manager, Operation
[email protected]
https://www.linkedin.com/in/elene-cheng-0408a6a8/

All the best.

Depending on your experience level coming in there were different courses/course length.
The most recent 'advanced entry' course with CX was only around 9 weeks in Adelaide. 4 weeks to do all the HK ATPLs and other relevant exams and then 4-5 weeks for a quick MEIR conversion in a DA42 for HKCAD and then some simulator work to finish off.

In the past they have made people with CPL do the full course cadetship, if you have over 250 hours then you would get the shorter course. Just apply, you have nothing to lose.

Hi,

Similar situation here, late 20s, had my CPL in 2019 but applied in cadetship, hoping there is advance class to shorten the training but i doubt NZ citizen can apply for cadetship, unless you have HK permanent residency?

This is correct.
If you have over 250 hours an MEIR and passes in all your ATPL exams then you would be able to do the advanced entry course when they start hiring DESOs again.