The answer is simple it takes 5 weeks to get TT guys while it'll take 32 weeks to get an AE guy/girl.

I'm talking about from the applicant's perspective, who would take the deal apart from someone hell-bent on joining CX?

Drake
 

People who are here for brand and recognition before doing their research, only to find the actual package a different story.

1A June
 

Hi guys, i will be attending the stage 1A interview in early June,
anyone will be having their first interview in June too?

If you are interested in preparing for the interview together, please let me know and just send me a PM! Thanks!

DOING AB INITIO in june too!
 

Hey my interview (1a) is on june 19th, is yours too?

We have got more than half of the people. let's Join us!
 

Anyone one of you is going to have your stage 2 in the following days, please PM me. I have got 8 people already and they are also looking for more people to prepare together!

28/7
29/7
30/7
31/7

Undies, you left out the most important divisive.... NO EXPAT HOUSING ALLOWANCE. A pathetic 10,000HKD, never to be increased by much "allowance". It won't ever be the same for EXPERIENCED worthy S/O's unless they stop coming.

anyone will be having 1A interview on 26/5?

Question about forgivable loan
 

Forgivable Loan:
Each successful candidate will be provided with a loan in the amount of HK$1,100,000. Depending on their experience, each candidate will spend a different amount of this loan on the training course prior to joining Cathay Pacific. Once they join and successfully complete probation, Officers who did not use all of the money for training will be eligible to receive the balance in cash. The candidates will be streamed into three programmes:
• Those with minimal or no flying experience will undergo an ab-initio training programme, using up the entire HK$1,100,000.
• Those with some relevant flying experience will undergo an Advanced Entry training programme costing approximately HK$550,000 and the remaining HK$550,000 will be made available to the Officer.
• Those who only require Transition Training will spend approximately HK$220,000 and the remaining HK$880,000 ($111,127.98 CDN) will be made available to the Officer.

This forgivable loan will be deemed to have been repaid through 6 years of continuous service with Cathay Pacific.

Training Bond (oh forgivable loan) is taxable after the 6-years, 17% of 1,000,000hkd

Just googled about the package of an SO and found something about the "forgivable loan", the above figures might not be updated but there's just one thing i want someone to clarify, is the so called "forgivable loan" still exist in the current SO package and will it really be taxed!?

Yes.
And...
Yes.

fe fkf,

Seeing as nobody without a HKPID is being recruited at the moment, everyone will do the ab initio course. I know this as local who had 250 hours still had do the full course as there was no one else in his class.

Therefore the full amount will be put against your name with no cash in your pocket. This becomes problematic as when you go to apply for any type of "loan" having a 1.1 million HKD bond on you makes you rather risky!!

Flight Grading
 

Anyone going for Flight Grading 24th May - 1st June? I know its very short notice but it would be nice to know a few of you before going down there.

helloo
 

i just got rejected last dec. . . . they told me that you have to wait for like 6 months before you can reapply,, so, in that case, would that be fine if a submit my application this week ???? thanks guys ..... ^_^

Anthony_27
 

@Anthony_27

I don't see any problem with submitting your application since it has been more or less 6 months since then. However, the application system will prevent you from completing or submitting your application because your information should still be on record and I think there's a timer on it.

I've been reading a few posts recently and, IIRC, the wait for invitations has shorten to just a few weeks, even days, instead of 6 months which I went through after submitting an application. So, just apply when you're ready.

I was rejected last year around October, been attempting and trying to improve myself since.

That's interesting I always thought the reapplication period was 12 months after?

@DrakeSkyle

The change was actually quite recent from my experience. I applied in 2012 and had to decline and they told me to apply again in 12 months time. I then applied in 2013, rejected in October, 2013. Got an email saying I can reapply in 6 months time.

"This becomes problematic as when you go to apply for any type of "loan" having a 1.1 million HKD bond on you makes you rather risky!!"

Your pay before deductions is 10K what bank will loan you 1mil?

Talk about a liability.

I got rejected in nov 2013, and they told me to wait for 12 months......

hklovers
 

I don't know. You sound like an arrogant @r$hole....Maybe they wanted you to cool it off before coming back?

I didn't pass 1A. The JKI test was alright but I believe I failed in the math and physics sections. I hope to retry in six months after reviewing those subjects. Meanwhile, does anyone have any suggestions for the most relevant jobs that I can apply before the reapplication period?

however
 

sorry to hear that..just keep going and preparing!

How long did you wait for the stage 1a result??

Embarrassingly Too Soon
 

@fe_fkf

First attempt, I was notified, I think, a month later and invited to Stage 1B. I think a month after that I got a rejection.

For my third attempt, I was notified by email 30 minutes after completing Stage 1A and leaving the building.

Edit: Actually, in hindsight, at least I didn't have to wait long just to hear a rejection.

They gave me a reply by email on the same day I did the test.

Kelevra
 

Wait...

Are you saying you deteriorated?

Are you still applying then?

The_Architect
 

Yeah I guess I did.

Not that it's an excuse (but it will sound like one anyway) but my first attempt was the previous structured selection process (WOMBAT, Raven's Progressive, etc.) and was just fresh out of secondary school (so "invincible" mentality and whatnot)

And for the most recent, it was the current structure (COMPASS, etc.). Also, I applied before having to drop out of university. So I'm guessing I didn't give myself enough time to prepare for it.

Planning to apply again. Just trying to get my sh*t together first.

kelevra
 

That mentality eliminated a lot of over confident applicants…

Now that you are out of college, what makes you think you can do better this time around?

(Im trying to help, please dont take it as an offensive statement)

Since the last interview, I've been trying to get into whatever workforce that would accept me and acquire whatever experience I can get my hands on. Not much success there but still persevering and hoping this behaviour can translate for the selection process and the cadet programme.

Would love to continue my tertiary education but as of now it doesn't seem to be in the cards. At least with the time spent there at least some of the culture of being student is still somewhat fresh and can be useful during the cadet programme. Unlike before, I will at least give myself sufficient time to prepare.

(Typing out all this makes me feel underwhelming and inadequate but no worries. I think I see what you're trying to do. Thanks.)

Anyone can send me the JKI booklet? [email protected]
1000x THANKSSSSSS for your help!

However
 

Just wonder why you find it difficult? Would you describe it a little bit?

Basically, it's algebra. If airplane travels x, how much y... you get the idea. Since I've spent most of the time focusing on aviation knowledge, I kind of forgot to focus on math formulas, so I didn't know how to calculate the answer. I don't think it's hard if math is fresh in your mind, but I haven't touched math since high school (almost 10 years ago).

UK PPL useful
 

Hi guys,

I am about to graduate in July and would like to use the summer to gain a UK PPL.

1) Do you think it would be beneficial for me to do so, in terms of getting through the selection process?


2) I applied to KA 2 weeks ago for their MPL cadet programme, how long do I normally have to wait for an interview? Is is harder to get in CX than KA, or do both have the same recruiting team (since both company are merged)

tms.anita
 

while getting a ppl helps in gaining aviation knowledge, it will rise their expectations substantially. Just because you hold a giant license doesnt mean much, as a matter of fact, if they sense any inadequacy from you being a PPL holder it might even hurt your chances.

KA as I heard is slightly more competitive than CX because they hire so little people. It takes them a few weeks to a few months to get back to you if you are invited.

Apply for both! It doesn't really matter. CX is merit based and I think KA is the same so if you're good enough, they'll take you. Some people fail CX and join KA and vice versa. They will ask you in the interviews anyway whether you have applied for the other company.

However
 

Thanks. But the thing I'm concerned is that is it a mental math?

sugizo20
 

During the tests, you get a pen and paper. No calculators allowed.

During the interview(s) with the technical questions, I think it's assumed that you'll be doing mental maths.

What kind of technical question will they ask actually?

is it like

Non-PPL holder: how can a plane fly?

PPL-holder: explain the how the engine run in the air?

tms.anita
 

No, its more like:

non-ppl holder
Tell me about the compression and turbine stages of the GE-90

ppl holder
What is adverse yaw? Why and when does it happen?

Good luck everyone

No.

At this stage they want to know your English language proficiency.

Don't give them reasons to ask you Oxy-moron questions.

There is time enough to learn aviation topics later.

They aren't going to ask you to talk about compression and turbine stages.

They will ask you questions relevant to your flying experience and involvement in aviation.

I would say if you don't have any flying experience, then try and have atleast a BAK type level before heading in.

If you have a PPL, then somewhere along the lines of a CPL level type theoretical knowledge should be sufficient.

They might ask you a couple of questions that go beyond your level, but that could be anything, and don't be afraid to say you don't know.

Study and understand the basics before moving on. Studying the compression and turbine stages of a GE90 when you have absolutely no clue about the fundamentals is pointless and if the interviewer continually asked ATPL and type specific questions then they need a kick in the ass.

Use a bit of common sense.

This is a good gauge:

If they talk to you about your schooling,very general oceans/geographic questions,aviation interests/ambitions -you are good.

If they ask questions about GE90 compression stages -you are in trouble.

Relax have and air of quite confidence and speak well.Remember it's the initial 30secs which determines..