I'm currently doing an undergrad in Canada, but I want to become a pilot.

I'm just wondering how long does it take around, to get a reply after I submit the application for HKID holders (3 star), and any opinions on if it's wise to apply during my undergrad?

If you seriously had any "passion" for flying, you would not ask such a stupid question, even if you apologise for asking it!

General physics
 

Does anyone know if physics test is included in the CX compass aptitude test? I know other parts quite well by reading the thread and I am just not sure about this.

Hey guys! Just a quick qn, how long does it take for CX to get back to you after application? I applied on the 13th of July.

Is the advanced program open now to non HKID holders or not. When you look at the cadet recruitment website it says HK only.

Is this actually correct - I knew the ab-initio was HKID only - and quite correct doing that I think.

If advanced is now open to HKID only - does anyone know when or if this restriction might be lifted.

Tried contacting company directly , never respond to an email, never answer a phone call

Ab initio (Cadet Pilot Program) is only open to HKID holders. It is currently open and they are actively recruiting.

Advanced Entry is open internationally, it has just been put on hold for the time being. Same goes for the Transition course. When will it open again, no idea, probably next year sometime at the earliest.

cx aptitude test
 

Does anyone know if physics (basic physics studied in college) is covered in the CX Compass aptitude test? (I have searched the information by google but no one gave a definite answer to it) Thanks!

In my case where I took the compass test in May, yes there was a part on some basic physics questions.

Just had a look at the FTA website, saw the grad photo to CP 51 - congrats to all

Clearly only two Asian people among the 18 graduates, and this course commenced in April 2012

I though the HKID only was bought in well before this. Clearly whitey's (of which I am one) can have HKID , but isn't really the aim of HKID to get more people of Asian background into the cockpit.

Must have been a lot of internationals on this course I would think - odds of 16 whiteys with HKID - slim to say the least.

Flyboat North,

Your post has to be the most pathetic thing I have seen in a long time.

What an earth does skin color have to do with having an HKID card?
Do your research and find out what the HKID is instead of cheering that "Whitey's" can have one.

No matter your skin color, If you are born in Hong Kong you can be the holder of a permanent HKID. (As an example of how a "whitey" can get a hold of an HKID)

I feel like I now have to act in complete shock the next time I see a slim person holding an American passport..... Granted I'll probably receive some flak for that last comment.

Can't wait to see the friendly CX crew say how much they'd love to sit next to you for 12 hours in a tiny flight deck.

guys,any flying school in Philippine recommend?I want to obtain my PPL before applying cadet.

What is a 'whitey; [sic]

If it's what I think it is then:

Balckeys
Redeys
Browneys
Pinkeys
Yellowyes

Also can?

Cx252 beware of the Pinoy flying 'schools'.Do your due diligence.

Why you want to get a PPL? It won't be an advantage at selection stage.

And BTW you cannot do it in 45 hrs. Even Biggles cannot..

What an earth does skin color have to do with having an HKID card?

Well quite a good deal when you consider:

• Hong Kong is in Asia
• Hong Kong is part of China
• 95% plus of HK people are of an Asian race

Anglos expats typically go to places like HK to work in Professional jobs for stints typically between 2 to 5 years .


This normally would not be enough for a expat child to gain a HKID card. Year sure there are always exceptions - airline pilots stay longer - we already all know that.


Few Anglo children stay the seven years to gain HKID and very few are born there.


How many Anglo's between ages 19 to 23 would actually hold a HKID card , I would say under 1000 , more likely under 500


Have a look at the Dragonair ab-initio grads - pretty much all Asian background very occasional anglo faces.



The point is that the odds of the 16 of the graduating class or a significant portion of them holding HKID is millions, more likely billions to one.


So clearly they are foreign nationals, and good luck to them everyone earns a place at Cathay.


They question I asked really was quite a simple one. We all know Cathay stated they would be giving preference to HKID , yet we clearly see a course starting April 2012 that is nearly all Anglo - non HKID holders. So when do we see the effects of this new policy

Something tells me your figures would be quite off.

I went to an international school where the majority of the students were
of non-Asian race and the majority had permanent HKID cards.

Do not forget Hong Kong wasn't owned by china pre-97, still a lot of, as you would say, whitey's, growing up with HKID cards and who knows, some may stay and have white kids who will in turn own an HKID card.... and so on.

Don't forget that the non-HKID holders who went through the interview process were still being selected or were awaiting for the course to start. I could be completely wrong but I believe the HKID card rule was to stop the initial process of new applicants.

Saying this, no one has any right to complain about Hong Kong making their own law's. Surely if a country like Australia can refuse you because you are not Australian, Hong Kong should be able to do the same.

Does anyone know the schedule for overseas applicants with HKID (eg, when will stage 2 be conducted)?

I know we are supposed to be done with the selection process by September but I had my 1B about three weeks ago and I still haven't heard anything (no phone call/email)

Fingers crossed for all of us! :ok:

no news is good news:ok:

That's what everybody says...let's hope that is the case ;)

Do you know what books are best to study for cpp? I have absolutely no knowledge on aircrafts.

You can read up info online. There are a lot of sources. Or you can look into some books on aviation. "Flying the Big Jets" by Stanley Stewart and "Flight without Formulae" by AC Kermode are my recommendations.

Education
 

Does anyone know if a Bachelor of Business Administration (BBA) degree fulfills their education requirements and will Cathay look down upon it?

Thanks!

Yes any university degree meets their minimum requirements, I doubt they would look down upon it, as long as you can successfully demonstrate a passion for flying.

hi everyone

anyone received email from cathay asking to re-submit the application again???

I just had the initial-A yesterday, then this morning got the email saying to re-submit.......

I would say proficiency in English is a big factor even more so than type of degree.

Got my email to resubmit for a 2nd officer position... :(

DOes that mean I'm not selected for the cadet program?

given these emails are being sent out at different times and to different people, what's the significance as well as the 6 weeks?

ramp up of recruitment as cx has found just hiring locals wont fulfill medium to long term pilot targets...?

I have a similar situation regarding the resubmission…
I applied the cadet programme online on 23 jul, then got an email for re-apply as a Second Officer today. Does it normally require people who applied cadet to re-submission as a SO?
I dont have any flying exp. and engineering background, can anyone plz tell me about the interview questions they ask about for the candidates without any aviation background?
I found theJKI and Pilot's Handbook for study, but no luck with BAK, are those enough for preparing the interview?
Many thx…

I have a similar situation regarding the resubmission…
I applied the cadet programme online on 23 jul, then got an email for re-apply as a Second Officer today. Does it normally require people who applied cadet to re-submission as a SO?
I dont have any flying exp. and engineering background, can anyone plz tell me about the interview questions they ask about for the candidates without any aviation background?
I found theJKI and Pilot's Handbook for study, but no luck with BAK, are those enough for preparing the interview?
Many thx…

What about Griffith Universitys deal with Cathay that was announced last year? Will training move to their base from Adelaide or is that an entirely separate scheme? Has the course even started?

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And the Hong Kong Immigration Department still has a ban on CX
hiring cadets without the right to live and work in Hong Kong, ie a Permanent HKID Card.


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Fyi 'P' HKID needs a residency qualification of 7 years.Its different from a plain vanilla ID card.

Some of you asking why cannot get a work visa via an entity whose employ you will be under.The issue is 'unskilled labour'.Which 1st world/developed country will issue a visa to this category?.

Classic case of chicken and egg.

So if you are really keen and motivated go get 250 stick and rudder time and learn the industry from the bottom up -like most of us.

I was under the impression that there never will be non-hkid ab-intio cadets ever again.

October 2013 was mentioned before about possible restart of AE and TT recruitment is this still the case? Does anyone have numbers of AE and TT candidates who have already passed interviews but are waiting on start dates?

CX Interview Prep Sessions
 

Anyone in Toronto who would like to meet up on a regular basis to prep for CX interview of any type, please leave me a PM.
This could be Initial A & B interview and mainly the Final Interview, including Group Exercise, Flight Planning, Technical Interview.

Good Luck to all !

Transition Course
 

So where does this all leave those of us who completed interviews and sim assessments over a year ago and have since been patiently waiting for a transition training course date? Cathay advised about a year ago there would be a 10 -12 month wait until TT courses resume but haven't heard much from them since. Having put off offers to other airlines here in Australia, I wouldn't be too impressed having to wait too much longer. How many of us are in this situation? :ugh:

Bathurstwalla I was under the impression that there never will be non-hkid ab-intio cadets ever again.

The strong rumours circling are that there will be no non-HKID cadets at all - AE and TT included (for a good few years at least).

Doesn't look good if NZ744 is waiting on a TT start date and hasn't heard a thing. I'd also be interested to know how many AE and TT are waiting on a course start date and if Cathay have been in touch to confirm whether it is still Oct 2013?

It is Oct 2013. A friend of mine is starting in Oct with Cathay and he is an AE cadet...been waiting for over a year now.

AE and TT candidates you already have Lic. and 'X' hours -hence easier to present you to imm as 'skilled' labourers.

Applying for Cathay Cadet Programme
 

Hello I'm trying to apply for the Cadet Cathay Programme, but at the moment i'm getting this message:


System Error

The online application system is currently unavailable, please update your application information later.
If you need further assistance, please contact our eService Centre at +852 2747 2200 or send an email to [email protected]. (1099)

Anyone else getting the same problem?

Haha, thanks!

Any chance you know if an Ontario Secondary School Diploma (OSSD) fits the requirement as well?