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xn2206 24th Apr 2009 07:24

Hi bros,

I've this certain blood disorder thalassemia. Does that automatically disqualify me for the SIA cadet pilot programme? Has anyone heard of it?

Dmits 24th Apr 2009 09:34

Hi xn2206, my take will be just go for it. You never will know if you don't try.

mosca_sg 24th Apr 2009 19:23

May I know how long will the total training in Australia (Jandakot + Maroochydore + 777) take? 12 months?

Starburst3128 25th Apr 2009 03:56

mosca_sg,
777 training is in Singapore, not Australia.

JDK training is about 9~10 months for Baron bypass program and 12~14months for conventional program. (Quoting from cadets who came back 2 months ago)

MCY training is about 65 to 100 days.

777 traning consists of about 1 month of ground school and about 2 months of Simulator. Then cadets go for line training as 2nd officers for about 9 months.

Length of time of each stage of training is one thing. Waiting for the next phase of training to commence is another. As of now, there are as many as 70 cadets who are waiting for either their 777 ground school or simulators training. Many of them joined SIA in 2006.

mosca_sg 25th Apr 2009 13:20

Thanks for the details :ok:

Sonic69 25th Apr 2009 13:37

About Thalassemia. Just go for it. I know personally of one person who had it who was not picket up by SQ.
Who knows if that was the reason.

Sonic69 25th Apr 2009 13:44

9V6599, you wouldn't have made it to the first interview if it was because of not having Physics.
Clearly retaking the O levels is not going to help.

birddream 26th Apr 2009 10:05

so do you mean I wouldnt have chance for interview for SIA if I dont have GCE equivalent physic ? how many times you can have a try lets say you have been turned down like several times.

Sonic69 26th Apr 2009 10:32

You can try to apply and see if you get called for interview or not. 'O' level physics seems to be an important criteria. When SQ picks a cadet, they want to have a high degree of certainty that this person is going to pass the ATPLs. They need to pick people with adequate foundation and can study to pass exams.

As for how many times you can apply - well, that depends on you. How many times do you need to be rejected before you accept that it is futile to continue applying?

Dmits 26th Apr 2009 13:12

Cadets, I have waited a full 3weeks now since my first interview. How long do you think a candidate should wait before he will know he no longer have any chance for final round?

birddream 26th Apr 2009 15:53

Something if you are interesting no matter how many times been rejected you it only push you more. Something if you have no interest no matter how that attractive to you, it still untouchable. Immature right? sounds like human.

744rated 27th Apr 2009 11:53

Any changes on age ceiling?
 
Greetings gentlemen.

This is my first post on the forum. Went for my first interview in Apr 2006. Nil further. It was a pleasant experience as my technical knowledge gave me a hand in answering some questions. Lest some of you may think, I have absolutely nought flying experience. Am involved in engineering.

Now the question that literally haunts me: what is the oldest age whereby a cadet wannabe can be officially inducted as a cadet? It doesn't take a genius to realise that SIA prefers their cadets to start as early as possible, while satisfying MINDEF's policy; the cadet must be able to serve as a commander as long as FAA/EASA and ultimately CAAS regulations permit, because, by and large, the Captain engenders revenue for the company. I am 29 this year, and 34 looks to be the earliest I can do a mid career switch. I came across that the max a cadet ought to be is 31. Need some advice from senior members of this amazing forum if they can shed some light. I do not possess a degree.


P/S: to all dudes who have earned their stripes, happy landings.
to the rest, continue striving:)

Starburst3128 27th Apr 2009 12:14

For ab-initio cadets, they must not be more than 32 yr old at the time of acceptance. So counting backwards, taking into consideration medical check up, 2nd Interview, 1st interview, the waiting time in between and any delays, I think you should submit your application latest by 31.5 yr old(I am assuming that you are either a Singaporean or PR).

Of course the earlier you submit your application, the better your chance of getting an interview. But I think after 31.5, your chance is very very very very slim.

lloyd_dsouza 27th Apr 2009 13:50

guys any hint as to whether SIA is omin back to india with its cadet pilot programme

Starburst3128 27th Apr 2009 14:52

lloyd_dsouza,

I think SIA will start to recruit from India again when she can't get enough cadets from Singapore, Malaysia and maybe Hong Kong. Because these are the "traditional" pools of cadets. Dmits and SG_Aviator had, in earlier posts, talked about "reduced SIA cadets intake" for 2009. So given the current situation, in my opinion, SIA won't go to India anytime soon.

But again, I am not from SIA management. So I may be wrong.

lloyd_dsouza 28th Apr 2009 03:52

@starburst3128

thnx a lot dude...even though it was not supportive it did give me some relief

Knightwhosays_NI 28th Apr 2009 08:25

When I was applying some years ago, the max age was 32.

However, later on when I was helping out the recruit dept during my cadet days, the max age became 31. I was told to reject applications older than that by you-know-who herself. So if you applied while you were 31, you should be ok. Not sure if they bother if you cross over to 32 when you sign, don't take the risk, I suppose.

So the last I heard, 31 is the oldest you can be when you join as ab-initio. However, you can also see that the age limit can change. In a poor economy like this, and with a cut in intake, I would guess that they'd prefer younger cadet.

Dmits 28th Apr 2009 09:30

ok received my email for ongoing battle. Anyone going next week?

not confident of securing a place leh... can someone offer some advice on what to look out for?

Thanks alot! Those who are waiting, hang in there, you will receive your invite very soon!

randomx, will you be going to the battle with me? ha...

randomx 28th Apr 2009 14:38

Hey Dmits, I'm going next week too! Anyone else going?

spedfast 29th Apr 2009 05:37

Hi,
I need some advise for a friend of mine.
He cleared all the rounds and got selected for the cadet program back in 2007, but could not join as there was no way he could get out of his work commitments back then.
Thanks to the economy, he has a bit more time on his hands now.
Is it futile for him to speak to HR again? Would they be so nice as to reconsider his case?
Is there a precedent like this before?
Any inputs appreciated.
cheers

randomx 29th Apr 2009 15:12

spedfast, not sure if this has happened before. But I can share with you what is happening to my friend now. He cleared everything last year, but couldn't start immediately either because of age and/or MINDEF requirements (can't remember which one). So he's currently doing other job now and SIA is keeping his case on file. The moment he's cleared, he's going to rejoin SIA as a cadet pilot.

Not sure how the case will be like with your friend, and I guess only HR can answer this. Why don't he contact HR directly? No harm trying I guess, better than just keeping quiet and let go of the opportunity.

Dmits 30th Apr 2009 08:04

See you there randomx!

xn2206 3rd May 2009 07:20

I heard chances are low

but if he doesn't even try at all then chances are nil

Gerald_83 6th May 2009 07:33

hello fellow forumers, can i inquire about the medical requirements of being a pilot ?

I currently have a eye disorder called Keratoconus in my right eye whilst my left eye is correctable to 6/6. My condition has somewhat stabilised over the last two years and i do not see any reason why i can't be a pilot. However, i did ask my eye specialist about it and she told me that i could not be one. I was rather disappointed/heartbroken then and i did not research further. Lately, a couple of my friends have attended the APL course at seletar and some have proceeded on further to JDK for flight training. It has rekindled the burning desire within myself to be a pilot, and i did some more research lately on the internet and there are a couple of cases where Pilots have the same disorder as i do and are still flying. I am pretty determined to go back to my eye specialist and fight my case with her, and hopefully she will give me a letter of endorsement which i plan to use for my medical examination if that should ever come to pass.

I am sick and tired of staying around not doing anything and just letting someone decide my fate. I dreamt of being a pilot since young and i want to know that if this dream has to be dashed, i will not be going down without a fight.

Just wonder what opinions does anyone have about this or if they have encountered anyone with the same eye disorder and went thru the medical examinations successfully.

Cheers!

AiRBuS_380 6th May 2009 14:24

hi,

if CAMB reject your inital and being filed, its game over.... you can appeal to it once you have the necessary documents. but from what i knw, its normally rejected. This is because your not a pilot at the moment and its for inital medical without flying hours.

i would auggest you to do your medical for other NAA and start flying there if thats your dream. get the experience then come back CAMB to try again..

just my thoughts...

cheers

satwikroy 7th May 2009 04:49

Any idea about when the SIA would be heading to India to intake Cadet Pilots. Is it a compulsion that I need to be a graduate to be able to apply for SIA's Cadet Pilot Training? Do I need to possess a CPL for applying in SIA's Cadey Pilot Programme??
:rolleyes::confused::confused::confused:

Gerald_83 7th May 2009 05:15

Hi AiRBuS_380, thanks for your feedback, could someone help me out with the abbreviations? CAMP, NAA? hehz, thank you very much!

dream747 7th May 2009 15:03

You could go apply for an initial Class 1 medical with ST Aeromedical. As far as I know they are the only medical instituition that is appointed by CAAS to conduct an initial professional pilot's medical examination. This will include the eyes. I'm not sure if your condition would be accepted by CAAS but this is the only way to find out. :)

Gerald_83 8th May 2009 06:35

Thanks for replying dream747, i will do just that.

I think there might not be much chance for me with so many better qualified individuals out there with not much problems with their eyes. I will still pursue all avenues nonetheless, even if i am not accepted, i know i had tried at least.

Thank you everyone for spending time to read and reply to me. Much appreciated! Cheers! and have a safe landing to all!

xn2206 9th May 2009 17:02

Hi Gerald,

The following link may help:

http://www.caas.gov.sg/caasWeb/expor..._Amendment.pdf

I'm not sure about your condition, but the guidelines for class 1 medical are outlined in there

kma21st 9th May 2009 19:37

Hi,

i tried applying for the cadet pilot with SQ but got rejected. could it be due to my age? im currently 23. i read somewhere that SQ only accepts people who are 26 and above. is that true? cos i tried for the air force but couldnt get in as i didnt get into OCS or SISPEC. would appreciate some help. thanks.

wingsteer 11th May 2009 03:45

Hi randomx, how was the final round? did all get in?

randomx 12th May 2009 11:44

Hey @wingsteer, I got through to the medical stage. Not sure about the rest though, I only know one person that I met during the medical, and I don't think he's in this forum... So guys, anyone else got through to medical?

wingsteer 12th May 2009 18:17

hey randomx, congrats. So two guys from your batch went through ah...

randomx 13th May 2009 02:42

Thanks @wingsteer, yeah, at least among those who came during my batch of final interview. That time I also checked with the aeromedical centre, and the lady said there were a total of 4 of us who had medical on that day. :)

Gerald_83 13th May 2009 07:08

Just had my medical at ST aeromedical centre, going to see the specialists (eye,ear,nose,throat) tommorrow at Mt.Eliz. Thereafter it would be another few weeks before i know my results. Approval subject to the CAAS medical board but Dr Rajib, the AME, did say that for people with a clean bill of health, he would be able to tell you if you would pass immediately.

I applied for the FAA and the CAAS medicals cos i quoted someone wrongly. Now i am just wondering if i were to be rejected by CAAS yet accepted by the FAA, wonder if i should try going to the US to learn flying instead. Apparently, the AME told me that quite a few pilot wannabes applied for the FAA medical so that they can go to the US to learn to fly.

Anyway i bypassed the interview stage and went straight to the medicals because my eye condition was my biggest concern. Just a lil update on me for those that gave me advice. Thx and safe landing everyone!

wingsteer 13th May 2009 11:53

hey randomx, mind sharing if you have any prior flying experience? any idea if the other 2 guys any one of them self sponsoring themselves? I am thinking of this route though... thanks.

Albatr055 17th May 2009 08:47

@xn2206 - regarding your question on thal, I'm also very concern bout it. Here are some of the facts that I know. I also have thal. Previously CAAS passed my medical for me to fly with SYFC. But when I applied for RSAF, I was rejected based on this. Right now, I'm awaiting for result from SIA if they would employ me despite having thal. ST medical actually called me up to submit a thal report to them. Only juz went down yesterday to submit to them due to work commitments. When I spoke to some of the ppl in ST medical, they actually gave me some hope, saying that usually thal should not be a problem to commercial flying, however pilot employability is subjected to company policy and SIA is an independent company, so they could not tell me if I could pass the medical for sure. So I guess getting the CAAS clearance should be fine. but employability wif SIA, I'm hoping for the best.

I think I'm one of the fellow candidates with randomx. not too sure though. haha. only based it on the figures he said. "2 out of the final interview went to medical", "4 taking medical on that day". If I'm right, the other 2 who were taking the medical are RSAF pilots converting to SIA. So as far as I know, only 2 of us are from the SIA cadet pilot programme. That is if I'm right about who randomx is though. :)

Albatr055 17th May 2009 09:36

@xn2206 - something that I just found.
http://medind.nic.in/iab/t02/i1/iabt02i1p75o.pdf

Interesting, but beware, it may give false hopes.

purplehearts 17th May 2009 21:23

Education
 
Hi,

For Singaporean cadets, would you mind posting your degree and honours and also what you did in NS? I would like to have an indication to know what kind of people tend to make it through the interviews. I'm afraid they wouldn't give your application much of a consideration if you do not have a good education and if you are not officer material for the army.


Thank you!


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