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Old 12th Aug 2012, 00:56
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Career Options for Singaporean in Singapore - Sponsored or Self Sponsored

Hi,

Thought of setting up this thread to gather Singaporeans who have a passion for taking up flying as a career and also those whom had already gotten their license but are still waiting for a chance to get into their dream job.

We can share our experiences either through here or maybe some gathering where we can give tips and latest information for the aviation market scene in Singapore.

Currently i have a blog: Dream of Flight ( Dream Of Flight ) where i post articles sharing my journey to becoming a pilot as well as holding free talk session and joy ride to the aspiring pilots in Singapore. The next talk session will be held in Singapore on the 24th Aug 2012 7pm-10pm. Do visit the blog to get more information.

I am just hoping more aspiring pilot can have a clearer picture of the steps needed to achieve their dream of flying and not make mistakes or wrong choices. Keep the thread lively so that more can benefit from this. Thanks.

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ABOUT ******* TIME THIS THREAD GOT STARTED!!!

haha congratulations and YES YES please keep this thread alive!

lemme intro myself. im your friendly nextdoor malay uncle who has an NUS Applied Math degree, got rejected by SIA. Worked as an analyst in a major investment bank. saved up money. went to massey got my cpl and associated ratings and started banner towing in NZ. then i flew twin otters in papau new guinea and got my first learjet gig in Brunei and am now happily employed as a Gulfstream G550 First Officer.

Anything PM me.
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Hi SingaporeAirlines,

Thanks for sharing with us your credential. It is nice to see all the hard work paid off when you land yourself a job that you love. Since i started this thread, i will also introduce myself briefly. I started flying back in Brisbane when i was doing my degree course. After graduation, i returned back to Singapore looking for places to fly. I found out that the airspace in Singapore is too limited so i went over to Johor to convert my Aus PPL to a Malaysian PPL. Thereafter i continue to pursue my dream and gotten myself an instructor rating and continued to instruct in Johor for the next 3 years.

During this time, i upgraded myself to CPL/IR and also ATPL papers by self studying. I was quite fortunate and landed myself a job with a local carrier in Singapore. Hope with my experience, i can help more of you out there and give you better tips and advice. Cheers! Keep the thread alive~
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Are there really no more aspiring pilots or present pilots in Singapore waiting and hoping one day to become a commercial pilot with an airline?

This thread have over 200+ view and only 1 replied. Is it really solving the myth that we are running out of pilot pool and outsourcing is the only way?

Come on people, reply and make this thread alive to show that we have many aspiring and current pilot pool in Singapore. Thanks!
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Bump bump bumpity bump. I would love to do this and volunteer with you guys once I am in out of Brunei
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You are always welcome. Let me know when you are in sg.
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heart warming to see there are people who still care about singaporean looking for a career in piloting, given the limited opportunity around this region.

got rejected by SQ after medical, but may be already on the high side of age to take the big financial risk to seek for the ultimate career in piloting. getting a job in flying is really a super tough journey for some, and the risk equation is often against the seeker. Route to being a pilot in singapore = (large $ investment for training + 2-3yrs training just to get a CPL/IR + suitable age to land a pilot job + luck in getting through carrier recruitment + medical class 1 + fall back plan) ... all these are on top of the first and foremost aptitude to fly (motorskill+math+science)...

SFC, STATA, jetstar ab initio, sq ab initio ... how many self-sponsored individuals are still training to get a CPL, and how many of them who gotten a CPL but still having no luck in landing any decent job?
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Me....
Aspiring Pilot.
Ppl holder Slightly above 100 plus hour dual and solo. Unrestricted..
Still working on the dollars and cents. Age 31
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flying the G550 sounds way better. Congrats!
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Hi Eerie and Sgcloudchaser,

Thanks for the reply. Nice to see you guys working towards your goal. I agree with Sgcloudchaser that the route from training to eventually lending a job in the pilot sector is definitely not easy at all. Let alone talking about the amount of money one have to put in.

That is why i am trying so hard to reach out to more aspiring pilots to share with all how i had gone through the tougher route and hopefully with my experience, more can gain from it and choose a wiser path.

Let me know if you guys are interested to come have a chat on the 24th of Aug during the talk session and we can all learn from one another. Email is: [email protected]

Take care for now.
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Local guy, 24 & still in Aust completing my degree.
I should be done by mid next year.
PPL with about 160hrs or so.

I believe that there is a pool of pilots who are based out of SG and no doubt would like to go back to SG. (that's my belief w no data to back me up, so don't flame me!)
It's already hard for a singaporean to get a job flying, and plus the fact that holding a SG passport doesn't really give much options to have the residency in other countries to work in (obviously a requirement).

Looking to fly for a regional airlines out of SG.
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my story

got into aviation while in the airforce, operated UAVs seacher system, after ORD went to states to do CPL and time building, came back 1300+ hrs, 1000 multi, on the verge of landing the pilot job for starhub airship then 911 happened.

then odd jobs for 2 years, got called back for airship job, started as a crew and endured for a year of kicking around finally got lighter than air rating, did airship pilot for 1 yr+ in states

then stop airship life, got 1600+ and ATPL, came back went for SIA cadet, no joy, becoz no degree, at the meantime SIA advertising for cadets in malaysia and india.

present age 39, too late liao

long story short, if not sponsored dun do it, singapore its one of the few countries in the world that does not take care of its own citizens.
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Hi bolueeleh and dl_88,

Thanks for sharing. I know this industry could be cruel at time but if it is a dream of yours, let it be doing odd jobs to survive, the most important thing is never give up. I have friends who are in the 40s before landing themselves a job with the airlines. So anything is possible. Continue to keep current and upgrade yourself.

If there is anything i can help do email me. Thanks.
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Will be interested to attend the talk.
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got into aviation while in the airforce, operated UAVs seacher system, after ORD went to states to do CPL and time building, came back 1300+ hrs, 1000 multi, on the verge of landing the pilot job for starhub airship then 911 happened.
I used to fly the Starhub Airship in the early days when it was out of Marina City park. If you are by any chance initials CW, I left before you came on the scene. Many happy memories of Singapore. AC was the chief pilot at the time for the base.

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I kind of miss the airship…although i didn't have much chance to get close to it.

PW4000 email me and i will give you more info for the talk.
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Vision requirements in Singapore

I hope someone on this thread can assist me. I am outside Singapore and have started investigating the job opportunities there. However, there is one 'potential' stumbling block I need to get figured out. Over 6 yrs ago I had successful laser eye surgery to improve my vision.

Question: if a pilot were to go to a designated aviation credential type doctor in Singapore in order to get a proper Gov't pilot's Medical license (or do they call it a certificate?), would that otherwise healthy pilot be denied a Medical license if he/she had previously had successful laser eye surgery to improve their vision?

Shorter version of the same question.....does the issuing Gov't authority allow that a commercial pilot may have had either PRK or Lasik type laser eye surgery? I have heard that the Gov't or Japan does not allow any pilots to have had this type of procedure. I am trying to learn if the Gov't Dept in Singapore has a similar policy or perhaps they allow it like the US, Canada and many countries in Europe.

I am willing to do my own homework. Can anyone give me the website link that connects to the Singapore Gov't regulations on this medical vision topic? If not a website, is there a phone number you can give me for the Governments Aviation Medical Dept or Bureau where I can inquire?

appreciate whatever stories, rules, rumors, facts or knowledge you can pass on. I am sure you understand my situation in that I don't want to be cranking up the job search effort much further if any openings in Singapore will ultimately be off limits to me.

Thanks
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http://www.caas.gov.sg/caasWeb2010/e...Amendment1.pdf
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Old 14th Aug 2012, 03:58
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Hi tcw3,

To answer your question in simplest way, if you have undergone Lasik 6 years ago, then CAAS will have no problem issuing you a professional licence provided you pass the CAAS Class 1 medical.

I have lasik and i am holding CAAS atpl. Cheers!
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........im your friendly nextdoor malay uncle who has .......

That explained it all ......



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