Dragonair (KA) recruitment?
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CXCPP vs KACPP
To my understanding, the actual ab initio training received by KA and CX cadets in Adelaide is the same, however differences lie in the following items:
1. ICAO English
CX requires candidates to complete the ICAO english test prior to joining cadet training, while KA cadets undergo the english test following completion of training in ADL and their return to HKG.
2. Flight Grading
CX Flight Grading is divided into two categories, depending on the level of experience of a candidate. They are:
a. Basic Grading - 7 flights in Grob115A, focusing on BAC. For applicants with <20 hours TT.
b. Advanced Grading - 3 flights in Grob115A, focusing on assessing candidates' existing flying skills. 3 sorties in sim, with basic Instrument flying.
KA Flight Grading is divided into two categories, also depending on the level of experience of a candidate. They are:
a. Basic Grading - 7 flights in Grob115A, focusing on BAC. For applicants with <20 hours TT.
b. Advanced Grading - 7 flights in Grob115A, also focusing on BAC. Plus 3 flights in CAP10 aerobatic aircraft.
3. Career Prospects in HKG
Following returning to HKG, CX cadets undergo ground school for their respective fleets, and are trained just like any other new F/O, except they are not given base training and following check-to-line, they become official S/Os and are relief cruise pilots.
As for KA cadets, they undergo ground school for their assigned Airbus aircraft, but are also given base training. Following check-to-line, they operate under the rank of S/O but actually execute the duties of an F/O. The difference is that they are not allowed to control the aircraft below a certain limitation in wx condition, something that will change as they are promoted to JF/O and above.
All this is what I have learned from various sources. As with everything else on this forum, read it and take it with a pinch of salt. Having said that though, please feel free to correct any errors that I might have made. Good luck to everyone applying!
1. ICAO English
CX requires candidates to complete the ICAO english test prior to joining cadet training, while KA cadets undergo the english test following completion of training in ADL and their return to HKG.
2. Flight Grading
CX Flight Grading is divided into two categories, depending on the level of experience of a candidate. They are:
a. Basic Grading - 7 flights in Grob115A, focusing on BAC. For applicants with <20 hours TT.
b. Advanced Grading - 3 flights in Grob115A, focusing on assessing candidates' existing flying skills. 3 sorties in sim, with basic Instrument flying.
KA Flight Grading is divided into two categories, also depending on the level of experience of a candidate. They are:
a. Basic Grading - 7 flights in Grob115A, focusing on BAC. For applicants with <20 hours TT.
b. Advanced Grading - 7 flights in Grob115A, also focusing on BAC. Plus 3 flights in CAP10 aerobatic aircraft.
3. Career Prospects in HKG
Following returning to HKG, CX cadets undergo ground school for their respective fleets, and are trained just like any other new F/O, except they are not given base training and following check-to-line, they become official S/Os and are relief cruise pilots.
As for KA cadets, they undergo ground school for their assigned Airbus aircraft, but are also given base training. Following check-to-line, they operate under the rank of S/O but actually execute the duties of an F/O. The difference is that they are not allowed to control the aircraft below a certain limitation in wx condition, something that will change as they are promoted to JF/O and above.
All this is what I have learned from various sources. As with everything else on this forum, read it and take it with a pinch of salt. Having said that though, please feel free to correct any errors that I might have made. Good luck to everyone applying!
Last edited by holdmetight; 30th Jan 2010 at 14:33. Reason: Updated
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You get your Initial Test invitation via e-mail. If successful in subsequent assessments you will be contacted by phone. I have heard that unsuccessful candidates are simply ignored and not given any form of rejection.
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holdmetight, your post is pretty accurate - just wanted to add a few things.
There is no more "intermediate" flight grading for CX
Also, the training received as a cadet in Adelaide is exactly the same, whether you are from CX or KA
Outward Bound is a thing of the past, and will not be a part of the program anymore.
And yes, as you mentioned, KA cadets graduate to become "flying" Second Officers whereas CX cadets graduate just to become a relief pilot (second officer)
There is no more "intermediate" flight grading for CX
Also, the training received as a cadet in Adelaide is exactly the same, whether you are from CX or KA
Outward Bound is a thing of the past, and will not be a part of the program anymore.
And yes, as you mentioned, KA cadets graduate to become "flying" Second Officers whereas CX cadets graduate just to become a relief pilot (second officer)
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The reason I asked you about your flying background is because KA are not responding to applicants with CPL and above, for some unknown reason. Is this your first application then?
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Just wonder if you guys have received any respond from KA after your initial test on late Jan.
