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Draw and explain!
Hey guys,
I've been trying to read my way thorugh the thread and just want to say thanks to everyone HMT, happyguy and others can't remember all the names... a lot of helpful info!
Trying to get ready for mine and was wondering if any of you were asked to draw and explain things out of the JKI booklet other then engine layout's... any info is much appreciated!
Thanks...
FTP
I've been trying to read my way thorugh the thread and just want to say thanks to everyone HMT, happyguy and others can't remember all the names... a lot of helpful info!
Trying to get ready for mine and was wondering if any of you were asked to draw and explain things out of the JKI booklet other then engine layout's... any info is much appreciated!
Thanks...
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Not a CX video, but nonetheless a very nice little montage put together by Air France (Pilots yesterday and today).
Air France - Corporate : Pilots, yesterday and today
Air France - Corporate : Pilots, yesterday and today
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Thanks! Just fired you a PM, check it out.
futureTP
Yes, I had to draw a hydraulic system. They could well ask you to draw anything so make sure you understand how things work. I remember in my first application 2 years ago, I had to draw longitude and latitude, lift production on a wing, and an altimeter. If they give you the chance to draw and explain, jump at it! A picture goes a long way into discussing the intricacies of aircraft instrumentation or aviation-related phenomena. Hope this helps.
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any of you were asked to draw and explain things out of the JKI booklet other then engine layout'
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Still waiting for my Stage 3 results monkeybiz
Any chance you know how long it takes to get back to us about Flight grading? When does your course start? Id be looking at being on the short course as I have the required hours
Any chance you know how long it takes to get back to us about Flight grading? When does your course start? Id be looking at being on the short course as I have the required hours
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Thanks for the info... better practise drawing! It never was my strong point in school always drew things that made no resemblance to what I was meant to be drawing lol.. any news on your interview? Good luck!
... better practise drawing! It never was my strong point in school always drew things that made no resemblance to what I was meant to be drawing lol.. any news on your interview? Good luck!
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futureTP, I doubt you will be asked to draw anything complicated ... there just isn't enough time for that.
Most of the relevant diagrams inside the JKI booklet are simple to draw. If you still don't understand a concept, google is your best friend (or look at your PPL books if you have them).
Keep it simple.
p.s. I was crap at art but still managed to draw a pretty decent jet engine
Most of the relevant diagrams inside the JKI booklet are simple to draw. If you still don't understand a concept, google is your best friend (or look at your PPL books if you have them).
Keep it simple.
p.s. I was crap at art but still managed to draw a pretty decent jet engine
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SW1,
Good luck with your stage three results! We found out about 9-10 days after we left from flight grading. After stage three, it took about 3 weeks, but I have heard of much shorter periods. Hope its good news for you.
ANT
Good luck with your stage three results! We found out about 9-10 days after we left from flight grading. After stage three, it took about 3 weeks, but I have heard of much shorter periods. Hope its good news for you.
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Hi,
The maths test is ok, you wont finish it in time though! As stated before, some questions are designed to waste your time, so swallow your pride and move on to the easier questions to build up your score.
The ICAO test, if fine, just listen to the recordings carefully and expalin what was said. You will only be allowed to hear it once, so listen. its nothing to worry about
The maths test is ok, you wont finish it in time though! As stated before, some questions are designed to waste your time, so swallow your pride and move on to the easier questions to build up your score.
The ICAO test, if fine, just listen to the recordings carefully and expalin what was said. You will only be allowed to hear it once, so listen. its nothing to worry about
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is there anybody on on here with no flying experience that has had their initial interview?
how tough did you find the technical questions-just wondering as im trying to gauge how much extra reading around the information booklet i need to do in prep ( I have done some but i don't want to overload on too much detail which may not be necessary).
have to say by the way that i wasn't expecting all that info for some reason, i first looked at it and thought
, this is going to be a long month!!!! (prob as the last interview i had was at FTE where all they really asked you to know was a certain level of maths)
cheers for any replies (good ones that is!)
how tough did you find the technical questions-just wondering as im trying to gauge how much extra reading around the information booklet i need to do in prep ( I have done some but i don't want to overload on too much detail which may not be necessary).
have to say by the way that i wasn't expecting all that info for some reason, i first looked at it and thought
, this is going to be a long month!!!! (prob as the last interview i had was at FTE where all they really asked you to know was a certain level of maths)cheers for any replies (good ones that is!)
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HMT, not sure if you have done your DCA153OPH yet, if you still need an ophthalmologist pm me, mine was pretty nice.
boquera, i have zero hours. and for me, as i can't speak for others, the JKI booklet is absolutely insufficient, i have read "ace the tech pilot interview"(way over 0-hr level), FAA "pilot tech knowledge" , "meteorology for pilots" and a few others. i believe we should equip ourselves with as much as possible.
boquera, i have zero hours. and for me, as i can't speak for others, the JKI booklet is absolutely insufficient, i have read "ace the tech pilot interview"(way over 0-hr level), FAA "pilot tech knowledge" , "meteorology for pilots" and a few others. i believe we should equip ourselves with as much as possible.
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how much extra reading around the information booklet i need to do in prep ( I have done some but i don't want to overload on too much detail which may not be necessary).
have to say by the way that i wasn't expecting all that info for some reason, i first looked at it and thought
, this is going to be a long month!!!! (prob as the last interview i had was at FTE where all they really asked you to know was a certain level of maths)
cheers for any replies (good ones that is!)
have to say by the way that i wasn't expecting all that info for some reason, i first looked at it and thought
, this is going to be a long month!!!! (prob as the last interview i had was at FTE where all they really asked you to know was a certain level of maths)cheers for any replies (good ones that is!)
Here is a REAL reply for you. I hate to ruin this thread for others but dude YOU HAVE NO CHANCE!!!
Even if you do pass all the stages YOU WILL FAIL the training!!! 
Are you kidding me? You do not want to go in too much detail?
You didn't expect so much info/reading? You think this is on the same level as FTE? Please re-evaluate your reasons and mental capacity for becoming a pilot.
Spaces are limited for people who actually have a passion for aviation and will put in the EXTRA work required to walk this path. Cheers. I believe this was a good reply. It had many smilies
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not ruthless aztec, a bit of an over reaction i think lancer,
what i was asking (and what was replied to by herrtob) was is the booklet enough information? or is much extra research is needed- and how much? i don't know how much depth they require for the initial interview for people without background or hours.
it is possible to overload on too much unnecessary detail when researching\revising that won't actually benefit the person and that is what i was getting at. I am limited on the time i have available to read and research on this due to having a job
i mentioned FTE as that is my previous experience at the interview stage, they wanted the applicant to know maths whereas CX want people to know a lot more. I never said it was on the same level as FTE and neither did i expect it to be considering what they are offering.
A lot of this stuff i have never looked at before so it was all a bit wow at first but i've had chance to look at most of it now and it doesn't seem that bad, however i am not stupid so i know that they will want extra to what they provide[they even say so on page one!!!].
how can you tell how much passion a person has on a subject by one post on a forum? as for a "real reply"-there was nothing helpful whatsoever to anybody on there. its people like yourself who make forums like these seem to be full of idiots who have nothing better to do then fill up their days with waiting for somebody to have a go at.
thanks herrtob, i have ordered one of the books you mention and already own mechanics of flight by kermode which unless im mistaken (and apologies if i am), the JKI booklet seems to have used a couple of pictures from
what i was asking (and what was replied to by herrtob) was is the booklet enough information? or is much extra research is needed- and how much? i don't know how much depth they require for the initial interview for people without background or hours.
it is possible to overload on too much unnecessary detail when researching\revising that won't actually benefit the person and that is what i was getting at. I am limited on the time i have available to read and research on this due to having a job
i mentioned FTE as that is my previous experience at the interview stage, they wanted the applicant to know maths whereas CX want people to know a lot more. I never said it was on the same level as FTE and neither did i expect it to be considering what they are offering.
A lot of this stuff i have never looked at before so it was all a bit wow at first but i've had chance to look at most of it now and it doesn't seem that bad, however i am not stupid so i know that they will want extra to what they provide[they even say so on page one!!!].
how can you tell how much passion a person has on a subject by one post on a forum? as for a "real reply"-there was nothing helpful whatsoever to anybody on there. its people like yourself who make forums like these seem to be full of idiots who have nothing better to do then fill up their days with waiting for somebody to have a go at.
thanks herrtob, i have ordered one of the books you mention and already own mechanics of flight by kermode which unless im mistaken (and apologies if i am), the JKI booklet seems to have used a couple of pictures from
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Hello there. I have just been invited to attend the 1st interview stage so the technical cramming must begin! But I don't seem to have received the JKI book. Would it be possible to send me please ?
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was the booklet enough information? you answered it yourself.. NO! it says so in the second paragraph!
HINT: for the first stage though.. it is sufficient.
dude ok look.. all im trying to say is that you have to be a lot more independent and use a lot more common sense! i have helped ppl on here who ask legit questions.. i have disregarded all those that lack common sense or whom need to be spoon fed.. until now.. so here it is..
they are not going to ask anyone who doesnt have any experience about ndbs.. ils approaches.. coffin corners.. or any CPL/ATPL type questions. with no experience you should be aiming to prepare yourself at the ppl level. pick up a book called From the Ground Up. It contains all the info you would need to pass your ppl in can/us. it is a great supplement to the JKI. If you already own (I assume you have read) Mechanics of Flight.. then you have already read half of the JKI in depth!
(soooo back to my rant) you asked your questions even BEFORE you opened the booklet! from the way you wrote your post.. it just seemed to me like it was a chore for you to "dig out more information that is not covered in the book" .. i dont understand why any extra research is such a burden and that to me why i believe(d) that you have a lack of passion for aviation. having a job is definately not an excuse. you must have had time to write a reply to me.. that time could have been put to better use if you are on such a strict schedule.. im just trying to make u see the light. it is hard work that must be put in and if you yearn for it enough.. you WILL get there.. especially for those who have little or no experience.. as they are becoming far and few with the acceptance of international cadets.
Hope this post lets you know where I'm coming from, clears up some things for you and encourages you and the rest to aim higher. I take back the nasty first line that I wrote in my original post. Study like you have never studied before and use common sense on what areas are going to be weighed most heavily on. *cough* theory of flight*cough* Anticipate and be ahead.
As for me.. im not a bad guy.. im the little to none flying experience idiot who has nothing better to do to fill up my days with dreaming to become an airline pilot because all I am doing is waiting for my course start date.
Good Luck!
HINT: for the first stage though.. it is sufficient.
dude ok look.. all im trying to say is that you have to be a lot more independent and use a lot more common sense! i have helped ppl on here who ask legit questions.. i have disregarded all those that lack common sense or whom need to be spoon fed.. until now.. so here it is..
they are not going to ask anyone who doesnt have any experience about ndbs.. ils approaches.. coffin corners.. or any CPL/ATPL type questions. with no experience you should be aiming to prepare yourself at the ppl level. pick up a book called From the Ground Up. It contains all the info you would need to pass your ppl in can/us. it is a great supplement to the JKI. If you already own (I assume you have read) Mechanics of Flight.. then you have already read half of the JKI in depth!
(soooo back to my rant) you asked your questions even BEFORE you opened the booklet! from the way you wrote your post.. it just seemed to me like it was a chore for you to "dig out more information that is not covered in the book" .. i dont understand why any extra research is such a burden and that to me why i believe(d) that you have a lack of passion for aviation. having a job is definately not an excuse. you must have had time to write a reply to me.. that time could have been put to better use if you are on such a strict schedule.. im just trying to make u see the light. it is hard work that must be put in and if you yearn for it enough.. you WILL get there.. especially for those who have little or no experience.. as they are becoming far and few with the acceptance of international cadets.
Hope this post lets you know where I'm coming from, clears up some things for you and encourages you and the rest to aim higher. I take back the nasty first line that I wrote in my original post. Study like you have never studied before and use common sense on what areas are going to be weighed most heavily on. *cough* theory of flight*cough* Anticipate and be ahead.
As for me.. im not a bad guy.. im the little to none flying experience idiot who has nothing better to do to fill up my days with dreaming to become an airline pilot because all I am doing is waiting for my course start date.
Good Luck!
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now that was a better reply, thank you. the reply was done in my lunch break and this one is because i am almost finished-when at home i have a couple of hours in the evening and the one weekend i have had i read the jki pretty much all day.
its not a want to be spoon fed, its just a little heads up i was after and apologies if the message was badly written. thanks for the rep.
its not a want to be spoon fed, its just a little heads up i was after and apologies if the message was badly written. thanks for the rep.