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Old 29th Jun 2009, 10:42
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what Cathay Pacific need now is chaos. fly the flag guys.
Actually it is not really a matter or not you royal to the airline, once you get paid, you work, you may settle by some other reasons. I think this is a positive direction to absorb new blood. There are lot of people around the world interested in aviation ultimately flying big jet yet worry about funding. Global cadetship somewhat may raise up the brand emphasizing its name - potentially global airline + city + airport..etc.. Not big deal to local really.

As company itself they might wish to holding great extend amount of selection candidate. enlarge the pools in stead of finding people to fill the job, different positions, different outcomes. Putting measurement in terms of time, time = money. In stead of waiting those second or third attempt, thats the way to earning resource.

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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 14:12
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OscarGolfIndia wrote:
The fact that it is open to everyone now won't hurt your chances.
There is no competition in the selection process between candidates. Cathay has a real hard time finding suitable candidates for the CPP, and has no quotas. It's wrong to see it as competition.
Plus, CX is expanding the CPP with more batches per year, so that's good.

Basically, if you're good enough, you will get in. CX will make a space for you.
There IS COMPETITION among Candidates! Please READ carefully e-mail below from CX:

.......................As you will appreciate, there is considerable competition for our Cadet Pilot Program and as a result we have to disappoint many applicants. Regrettably, we have concluded that we cannot offer you a place in our stage three selection process.

I am sure this has come as a disappointment to you, but unfortunately it is a final decision. We wish you well for the future and would like to thank you for your continued interest in Cathay Pacific Airways.

Yours Sincerely,
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Old 4th Jul 2009, 13:02
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SonicCatR6:

Sorry to hear that. But I am deeply appreciated with your post telling the truth to those people who is saying no competition in CX selection. You really tell their them what is the real world.

For those people, I hope you would understand what the real world is. There will be more and more intense competition in cadet program. Then you would understand what I mentioned

I would say to all, good luck in future.
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Old 4th Jul 2009, 14:17
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.......................As you will appreciate, there is considerable competition for our Cadet Pilot Program and as a result we have to disappoint many applicants. Regrettably, we have concluded that we cannot offer you a place in our stage three selection process.

I am sure this has come as a disappointment to you, but unfortunately it is a final decision. We wish you well for the future and would like to thank you for your continued interest in Cathay Pacific Airways.

Yours Sincerely,
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Thanks for clarifying, gotta realise what the reality of this world is...(no competition in the process? What a load of non-sense). What people can believe is that there are always someone better than u in this world....but what we shouldnt believe is an interview process or a selection process that could completely filter and not miss any real potential candidates out there....and if u say Cathay can do that...then thats B.S.
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Old 4th Jul 2009, 14:57
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.....there is considerable competition......
Is a polite, politically correct way to say you didn't meet the grade!

The cadet programme has been opened up internationally because not enough HKers meet....

1. english
2. personality
3. passion/ interest
And I mean ALL of them!

1. ICAO Level 4
(Yes...invited to next stage......No.....Goodbye ".there is considerable competition.." ).

2. CRM (Can you sit in the cockpit for 8 hours with someone and will they want to sit with you!)
(Yes...invited to next stage......No.....Goodbye ".there is considerable competition.." ).

3. Is it worth spending the money on you! (Will you stay with flying and CX)
(Yes...invited to next stage......No.....Goodbye ".there is considerable competition.." ).

CX is lucky to field a class of 10 cadets on each course and a majority of them are from UK, CAN, AUS. So therefore meet ICAO Level 6: Expert!

ICAO has established six levels of language proficiency:

* ICAO Level 6: Expert
* ICAO Level 5: Extended
* ICAO Level 4: Operational
* ICAO Level 3: Pre-Operational
* ICAO Level 2: Elementary
* ICAO Level 1: Pre-Elementary
The minimum language level for licensing purposes is ICAO Level 4. To be assessed at ICAO Level 4 or above, a pilot or air traffic controller must achieve Level 4 in all six of the ICAO skill areas: Pronunciation, Structure, Vocabulary, Fluency, Comprehension and Interactions.
If you want to start quoting SQ, all of them would pass the language proficiency level 4, HK does not promote English in schools as well as Singapore.

If you want the HK government to get involved with CX cadet hiring, you better start with improving English in HK schools!

And finally a pilots license does not mean you meet CX standards, CX knocks hundreds of pilots with thousands of hours back every month and those are subject to rules 2 & 3 above, just like cadet pilot applicants!

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Old 5th Jul 2009, 15:50
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my point exactly, SMOC.
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Old 8th Jul 2009, 07:54
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good on ya

And finally a pilots license does not mean you meet CX standards, CX knocks hundreds of pilots with thousands of hours back every month and those are subject to rules 2 & 3 above, just like cadet pilot applicants!
Well, it is really great that u sound like u have a great insight into the interview standards. If are you're flying with Cathay right now...awesome...good on ya u have met the 3 all the way to stage 4. If you ain't flying with Cathay...then why are u still here? Did u not meet 1 of the 3 Criteria...or u think u did? But u just got unlucky that u got rejected? Because somehow in those 3 Criteria Cathay gave u a 'NO' therefore u couldnt move on the next stage? Hence u receive a letter quoting "there is considerable competition...sorry...cant give ya an offer." And after such event, did u ask urself 3 questions? Did i not meet the english standard? Do i have a personality problem? Did I not have a passion for flying?

And to ur exact point as well holdmetight. Did u ask urself that and came up with a 'YES' in any of the 3 questions above?
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Old 8th Jul 2009, 08:31
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Did u ask urself that and came up with a 'YES' in any of the 3 questions above?
i admit i did a bit of soul-searching after my last unsuccessful attempt at the CXCPP. i fell short of the bar due to a combination of factors, none of which are amongst the three that you speak of. i don't believe that i was unlucky or disadvantaged in any way.
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Old 9th Jul 2009, 05:34
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People who disagree with Cathay

Solution for you...Don't buy their stock, don't fly with them, don't apply for CPP, Learn mandarine and fly for air china

expat/locals who wants to work for Cathay

Have fun in Hong Kong and I'll meet you all in LKF(go google it if you don't know where this place is) when I get into CATHAY
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Old 12th Jul 2009, 00:49
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Requirements

Hello

I have browsed through this discussion w.r.t the requirements needed to apply for the Cathay Cadet program.

As I understand it, the program is open to all nationalities now, but what I have not yet been able to confirm is whether non-residents of Hong Kong who also do not have a HK ID number, can apply.

That is, can a Canadian citizen (myself), who has never lived in or visited Hong Kong, apply to this program?

I've searched for a definite answer but couldn't find one.
Appreciate your response.

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Old 12th Jul 2009, 03:06
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i don't see why you can't apply, if CX have already removed the HK residency requirement and effectively put the cadet program on the international stage.

good luck!
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