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Forum: ATC Issues
21st Feb 2010, 06:57
Replies: 12
Views: 1,885
Posted By Flight Data

IF ZZZZ is put in F9 then some sort of type...

IF ZZZZ is put in F9 then some sort of type indication must be put in F18.
F9 is restricted to 4 characters, while F18 is more (I forget how many, but the IFPS manual gives that info - see Message...
5th Jul 2008, 14:10
Replies: 6
Views: 982
Posted By Flight Data

Lauderdale OK, fair call, but you show me...

Lauderdale

OK, fair call, but you show me any ATC unit of any description anywhere that doesn't have some sort of favouritism going on, whether it be the local carrier, or the company that gave...
4th Jul 2008, 15:12
Replies: 6
Views: 982
Posted By Flight Data

Lauderdale Not entirely correct, no...

Lauderdale
Not entirely correct, no 'blacklist' exists for such things over in Eurocontrol, but otherwise you are correct in saying don't yell at the peeps there, even if it's only in as much as...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Mar 2007, 20:14
Replies: 82
Views: 17,044
Posted By Flight Data

Interesting thread. I'm going to have to...

Interesting thread.

I'm going to have to tread carefully, as apparently, my management takes a rather dim view of staff expressing views on Pprune, so apologies in advance for the relative...
Forum: ATC Issues
18th May 2006, 06:05
Replies: 5
Views: 933
Posted By Flight Data

NO 7 Check your PMs

NO 7

Check your PMs
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Oct 2005, 06:00
Replies: 11
Views: 2,177
Posted By Flight Data

Just a small amendment to EGLL ATC's post - when...

Just a small amendment to EGLL ATC's post - when filing a flight plan with IFPS, it must be sent to both Brussels and Paris, regardless.
Also, to expand the point a little, IFPS must be sent any...
Forum: ATC Issues
3rd Oct 2005, 15:25
Replies: 15
Views: 2,463
Posted By Flight Data

It started as TOS (Traffic Orentation Scheme),...

It started as TOS (Traffic Orentation Scheme), then became SRS (Standard Routing Scheme), before becoming RAD (Route Availability Document), and you'll all be really pleased to know that the RAD is...
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Sep 2005, 16:12
Replies: 15
Views: 2,463
Posted By Flight Data

Vipero - indeed I have a great deal of sympathy...

Vipero - indeed I have a great deal of sympathy for dispatchers and ops bods, but especially for the little guys who don't have an ops that is trained for and used to flight planning inn Europe; can...
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Sep 2005, 14:12
Replies: 15
Views: 2,463
Posted By Flight Data

No problem; glad I can help. Well I guess a...

No problem; glad I can help.

Well I guess a lot of people think that IFPS is planning to take over the entire world, but the reality is the we are governed by politcal masters, so I suspect there...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Sep 2005, 17:03
Replies: 15
Views: 2,463
Posted By Flight Data

IFPS stands for the Integrated Initial Flight...

IFPS stands for the Integrated Initial Flight Plan Service, and all IFR/GAT flights within the IFPZ (IFPS Zone - area covered by IFPS; basically the whole of Europe, full details on the Eurocontrol...
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Sep 2005, 16:04
Replies: 15
Views: 2,463
Posted By Flight Data

Couldn't agree more, and I'm stuck in the middle...

Couldn't agree more, and I'm stuck in the middle of it all! :(

As for 'IFPS, FMD (CEU?), RPL and on and on' though, well, they are different sections that provide very different services, so a...
Forum: ATC Issues
25th Sep 2005, 06:05
Replies: 7
Views: 1,269
Posted By Flight Data

No problem. As for fixed distance for NDB...

No problem.

As for fixed distance for NDB range within flight plans, all IFPS is doing is applying the details of RAD, Appendix 4, which is available on the Eurocontrol website:...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Sep 2005, 12:46
Replies: 7
Views: 1,269
Posted By Flight Data

I don't have time to check at the moment, but I...

I don't have time to check at the moment, but I would imagine that the maximum allowed DCT distance into EGFH was exceeded when the last point was OF, so an extra beacon was added to overcome this.
Forum: ATC Issues
16th Sep 2005, 11:15
Replies: 20
Views: 4,802
Posted By Flight Data

Bigears - a very good point that seems regularly...

Bigears - a very good point that seems regularly missed when dealing with IFPS. IFPS only ever applies those routing requirements, restrictions and availability that are supplied by the member...
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Sep 2005, 11:44
Replies: 20
Views: 4,802
Posted By Flight Data

That text looks a little familiar,...

That text looks a little familiar, Routechecker.....

Not a lot to add to what has already been said, but to illustrate the extremes IFPS receives, several years ago, I got a flight plan for a...
1st Aug 2005, 17:18
Replies: 2
Views: 653
Posted By Flight Data

Jimbo Another possible option is that it...

Jimbo

Another possible option is that it used to be that all smaller aerodromes could submit flight plans through their relevant regional parent a/d (Heathrow, Manchester, etc), often via fax....
10th Jul 2005, 14:30
Replies: 15
Views: 1,593
Posted By Flight Data

Me262 project, and others: www.stormbirds.com ...

Me262 project, and others: www.stormbirds.com

Hope it manages to answer some of the questions here

FD
3rd Mar 2005, 11:58
Replies: 6
Views: 1,357
Posted By Flight Data

The job is advertised as a B2/B3 grade - salaries...

The job is advertised as a B2/B3 grade - salaries for B2 start at about 4,500 euros; B3 at 4,000, but then there are a shedload of allowances on top. The job will be working in the FMD ops room, and...
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Jul 2004, 06:08
Replies: 6
Views: 3,822
Posted By Flight Data

Scott Check your PMs FD

Scott

Check your PMs

FD
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Sep 2003, 03:04
Replies: 45
Views: 4,768
Posted By Flight Data

From an IFPS perspective it seems a question of...

From an IFPS perspective it seems a question of when , not if, the staff get licensing, and certainly at Brussels the idea has been pushed by the ops staff as well as management, probably more so by...
23rd Dec 2002, 13:28
Replies: 3
Views: 2,344
Posted By Flight Data

Great document, made and distributed by NATS Ops...

Great document, made and distributed by NATS Ops Support (not Eurocontrol, although IFPS use it to some extent). If you use it, it'll save a lot ot time and pain with messages to IFPS. :)

I know...
Forum: ATC Issues
19th Dec 2002, 17:39
Replies: 6
Views: 1,845
Posted By Flight Data

Internet filing is on the way to IFPS, not sure...

Internet filing is on the way to IFPS, not sure when it's due to be available, but at the moment it is only possible to access the IFPUV (flight plan test system) via the net through the Eurocontrol...
Forum: ATC Issues
18th Dec 2002, 14:53
Replies: 6
Views: 1,845
Posted By Flight Data

Mr G - NASTYNAS is spot on with the answer: a fax...

Mr G - NASTYNAS is spot on with the answer: a fax can sit on the machine for a while before it gets noticed, and yes, IFPS does need to contact someone in case there is a problem with the FPL. You...
21st Nov 2002, 18:28
Replies: 12
Views: 1,656
Posted By Flight Data

Some fair comments raised here but first let me...

Some fair comments raised here but first let me clear up one point - the CFMU Helpdesk is in the flow management ops room whereas IFPS is completely separated. IFPS does not really know where the...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Aug 2002, 18:41
Replies: 12
Views: 1,705
Posted By Flight Data

Chiglet Call IPFU1 on any weekday this week...

Chiglet

Call IPFU1 on any weekday this week or next, and ask for the Operational Support Team who can give you a bit more info on DCT routes: Flowman is right in what he says but there is a bit...
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