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Forum: Rotorheads
13th Jul 2019, 02:11
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

Of course we are all waiting for the NTSB prelim...

Of course we are all waiting for the NTSB prelim and are all only speculating at this point.

But some are saying that the boom was found 500 feet from the fuselage. I am simply saying a scenario...
Forum: Rotorheads
13th Jul 2019, 01:06
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

I am based in South Florida and fly moonless...

I am based in South Florida and fly moonless nights over open water regularly. I flew that night and it was deep IMC over water with no moon, clear skies. The first thought I had when I heard about...
Forum: Rotorheads
13th Jul 2019, 00:34
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

Five hundred feet for scattering of aircraft...

Five hundred feet for scattering of aircraft debris (even large parts) is not very far when you consider a hard, uncontrolled impact in the case of spatial disorientation. Water can easily move/shift...
Forum: Rotorheads
12th Jul 2019, 22:37
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

It was a moonless night down here. I do not think...

It was a moonless night down here. I do not think it was CFIT (Controlled Flight Into Terrain). This accident speaks more of a spatial disorientation with Uncontrolled Flight into the water due to...
Forum: Rotorheads
10th Jul 2019, 03:40
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

You're not right. There is tons of IMC here in...

You're not right. There is tons of IMC here in Florida. We fly deep fog west coast, heavy thunderstorms during months from May-November the whole state and then there's the over open sea night flying...
Forum: Rotorheads
8th Jul 2019, 17:27
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

I say moon-less night (July 2 was the new moon)...

I say moon-less night (July 2 was the new moon) and black hole departure transitioning from over land to over water either lead to the demise of the flight (spatial disorientation) or contributed...
Forum: Rotorheads
8th Jul 2019, 00:34
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

Even though we all fly very sophisticated...

Even though we all fly very sophisticated equipment we have to keep in mind the primitive, basic hand flying...or as we say in fixed wing, stick and rudder flying.
No collection of cutting edge...
Forum: Rotorheads
8th Jul 2019, 00:07
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

It is great to have all of these aids that we can...

It is great to have all of these aids that we can use, But they cannot always make up for the human factors if the pilot(s) were not current in these exact conditions.
July 2 was the new moon....
Forum: Rotorheads
6th Jul 2019, 16:48
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

I fly those deep night, no moon, no star...

I fly those deep night, no moon, no star conditions over open ocean water routinely. As I mentioned earlier, even the most skilled and experienced pilots can get into trouble on a night like that. It...
Forum: Rotorheads
6th Jul 2019, 15:21
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

Check FAA website, Geoff Painter had an ATP which...

Check FAA website, Geoff Painter had an ATP which requires instrument ticket. Other pilot, David Jude also had instrument ticket.
But even if you have instrument ticket and are IFR and night...
Forum: Rotorheads
6th Jul 2019, 15:08
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

Not required for Part 91. May people down here...

Not required for Part 91. May people down here operate without floats. Personal option.
Forum: Rotorheads
6th Jul 2019, 13:25
Replies: 548
Views: 513,171
Posted By sea plane

Sadly, night flights over water, especially on an...

Sadly, night flights over water, especially on an exceptionally dark starless night is the deepest IFR you'll ever fly. No visual reference and very dangerous on the initial transition from over land...
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