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AW139 Crash in Bahamas - 7 Killed

Old 5th Jul 2019, 08:41
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Sad to see - met Chris Cline a few times and Geoff Painter who was flying the AW139 was a gentleman. Going to miss the chats.

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Coal baron Cline among seven dead in Bahamas helicopter crash: media


(Reuters) - Coal tycoon and self-made billionaire Christopher Cline, 61, was among seven people who died in a helicopter crash on Thursday in the Bahamas, the Register-Herald of West Virginia reported, citing friends of Cline.

West Virginia Governor Jim Justice confirmed Cline’s death on Twitter but offered no details on how it happened.

“Today we lost a WV superstar and I lost a very close friend. Our families go back to the beginning of the Cline empire - Pioneer Fuel. Chris Cline built an empire and on every occasion was always there to give. What a wonderful, loving, and giving man,” Justice said.

“Cathy and I are praying for his family and all those involved in this tragedy,” Justice said.

Cline died the day before his 62nd birthday and was a native of Beckley, West Virgina.

Among those killed was also one of Cline’s daughters, the Register-Herald said, citing unnamed friends of Cline.

The helicopter went down shortly after takeoff in the Atlantic Ocean early Thursday near Walker’s Cay, the northernmost island in the Bahamas, BNO News said, citing unspecified U.S. and Bahamian officials.

The helicopter was headed for Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, the Palm Beach post reported, citing Bahamian Air Accident Investigation Department’s chief investigator, Delvin Major.

Cline resides in Seminole Landing, Florida, near North Palm Beach, the newspaper reported.

Neither Major, nor a representative with the Bahamas Department of Civil Aviation were available early Friday for comment.

A submerged helicopter with seven aboard had been found near Walker’s Cay, the Register-Herald said, citing Nassau authorities.

Forbes listed Cline number 1,281 on its billionaires list with an estimated net worth of $1.8 billion, listing him as self-made.

Cline started working in the coal mines at age 15 and later dropped out of Marshall University, Forbes said.

A major business breakthrough came in the early 2000s when he bought up high-sulfur coal reserves in Illinois, gambling that improved technology would make it more economical to burn dirty fuel, Forbes said.

Cline took coal mining firm Foresight Energy (FELP.N) public in 2014, and sold a controlling stake in 2015 for $1.4 billion cash.

Reporting by Daniel Trotta and Rich McKay; Editing by Michael Perry and Himani Sarkar
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 10:49
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Sad loss of lives, and it may therefore not matter much in this respect, but is that really an AW139 in the picture here?

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/226803

Is it not an AW119?
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 10:52
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No, that's an unrelated file photo. Typical lack of editorial oversight in media reporting.
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Ned, you mention one pilot, would this not normally be a 2 pilot operation? Helicopter appears to be ex London Air Services in Canada.

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One of the links states a 2 am departure from the Bahamas - night over water shouldn't be an issue with a 139 even OEI.
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Yeah, and another report says it was a 2pm departure, and it was first reported missing at 6pm, and was found 2 hours later. The bodies were recovered at 1am.
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Sad to see - met Chris Cline a few times and Geoff Painter who was flying the AW139 was a gentleman. Going to miss the chats.

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Ned from where do you get your information regarding the pilot(s)?
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As mentioned earlier this IS NOT the helicopter referred to in this thread nor is it an AW139!
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Originally Posted by nomorehelosforme View Post
As mentioned earlier this IS NOT the helicopter referred to in this thread nor is it an AW139!
Thanks, I was unable to view the earlier picture and I deleted the latest one.
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night VFR is banned in the Bahamas FYI

https://www.bahamas.com/vfr
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Tragic. If that was Geoff Painter of Cloud9Helis, I think he was a PPRuNer.
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Tottigol - My info is accurate - have known Geoff for a long time. Was chatting with him only a couple of days ago. He is the primary pilot for Chris on the 139. I am pretty sure its a 2 person crew and have no idea who the other crew was.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 19:27
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Unhappy

I got the sad news last night from one of his ex instructors. RIP Geoff!
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
Tragic. If that was Geoff Painter of Cloud9Helis, I think he was a PPRuNer.
Yep, for example:

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OK guys my turn to wade in here

Cloud 9 Helicopters is C9H NOT CNH!!

CNH12 is NOT an employee of Cloud 9 Helicopters but clearly it is someone with a concern about Ocean Helicopters.

I am not throwing stones in glass houses I know better than that.

I hope that clarifies my position and that of Cloud 9 Helicopters in this situation.

Geoff Painter - President Cloud 9 Helicopters LLC

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Very sad to hear this if it was Geoff Painter.
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Havick - It was, if you are friends with him on facebook there are numerous tributes
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Originally Posted by nomorehelosforme View Post
Ned, you mention one pilot, would this not normally be a 2 pilot operation? Helicopter appears to be ex London Air Services in Canada.
From West Virginia MetroNews:

Cline pilot remembered following fatal crash

By Jeff Jenkins in News | July 05, 2019 at 2:38PM
CHARLESTON, W.Va. — David Jude was a good golfer but a better person.

That’s what West Virginia Golf Association Executive Director Brad Ullman said about Jude Friday less than a day after hearing about the Kermit native’s death in the helicopter crash that also claimed the life Jude’s friend coal magnate Chris Cline.

Jude was Cline’s pilot. When he was not in the air he was usually on the golf course. Ullman said Jude was a great friend of the WVGA for many years.
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David Jude

“This is just terrible news. When we received the news late last night it really hurt,” Ullman said.

Ullman said he recently witnessed Jude help a younger golfer, an example of the kind of character he possessed.

“There was a young player that was recently at an event that had some trouble getting his cart fee taken care of just because lack of work and things like that and he’s (Jude) like, ‘Ya know what buddy, I’ll get you taken care of. You just go out there and have a good day and play well.’ He was always thinking of others and very passionate about the game and its principles. I think that’s what we’ll miss most with the loss of Mr. Jude,” Ullman said.

Jude was a good golfer. He recently qualified and played in the West Virginia Open. When he wasn’t playing he was on the bag for his son Davey, Ullman said.

He said Jude will be sorely missed at the WVGA’s Parent-Child Championship scheduled to take place in a few weeks at Glade Springs.

“Mr. Jude and his son Davey have won it before and they’ve been fixtures around that event for many years. There will definitely something missing there in a couple of weeks when we have that event,” Ullman said.

There was no word Friday afternoon on what caused the early Thursday morning crash two miles off the coast of the Bahamas. The helicopter was found hours later when the traveling party didn’t arrive in Fort Lauderdale.

There were seven victims including Cline, Jude and Cline’s daughter Kameron. The victim’s list also has not been officially released.

From Forbes:

The pilot is believed to have been Geoff Painter, who co-owns Cloud 9 Aviation with David Jude, a longtime friend and business partner, who was confirmed with Cline's attorney to have been onboard. Commenters on on the
Professional Pilots Rumor Network bulletin board expressed certainty that Painter was piloting the craft. Messages left for Cloud 9 and Painter were not immediately returned.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/christo.../#4218e8d46d96


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Night VFR may be banned, but it certainly does not stop anyone down there from flying at night. Transponder OFF, and done.
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How would their arrival in the US have worked, surely there would need to be an immigration clearance?
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