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Forum: Fragrant Harbour
27th Sep 2012, 06:39
Replies: 32
Views: 14,941
Posted By Voiceofreason

Liam

Yes, the costs of an 11 year legal case don't bear thinking about.

One point you mentioned that I'm not sure about is the $150k - that was awarded (from what I can tell) because of the...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
27th Sep 2012, 04:16
Replies: 32
Views: 14,941
Posted By Voiceofreason

Actually...

I'm not sure it does what you are saying it does.

The judgement seems to be saying that IF the Company wants to sack someone for misbehaving, they have to put us through the D&G. It is already...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
13th Nov 2011, 06:10
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

Thank you CB for confirming what I should have...

Thank you CB for confirming what I should have done a long time ago - simply stayed out of your blinkered "I and all others like me are worth more" mindset. If you were actually a CX pilot, I might...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
11th Nov 2011, 03:00
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

Not sure why I'm still bothering, but I guess I'm...

Not sure why I'm still bothering, but I guess I'm a sucker for punishment.



Fine, if you do. Then you would know the exact details are not how you put them in your first post. Just saying.

...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
10th Nov 2011, 06:27
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

Oh dear. Rent = inflation? Try again. Not my...

Oh dear. Rent = inflation? Try again. Not my fault you used the word "inflation" in your argument.



I HIGHLY doubt you were given any contract with the HKPA figures in there. How do I know?...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
9th Nov 2011, 05:51
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

ChinaBeached

OK, so I waded out of this debate many pages ago. I resisted the urge for ages to not come back on and get frustrated again, but in the end, I gave in.

CB: Your figures are wrong, assumptive and...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
7th Jul 2011, 01:33
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

Sorry, it seems I've obviously put a few guys'...

Sorry, it seems I've obviously put a few guys' noses out of joint. Trying to show that not everyone thinks this package is crap, and I'm not alone.

I'll bow out of this thread now, because...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
6th Jul 2011, 06:35
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

Apart from EK/QR/EY, know any other airline that...

Apart from EK/QR/EY, know any other airline that offers anything like a genuinely index-linked package? I don't want to live in the desert, but others do to get that, so fair enough. Index-linked...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
6th Jul 2011, 01:05
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

404 Titan's numbers make it seem like that 31% or...

404 Titan's numbers make it seem like that 31% or 34% is paid every year. It's not. It's the first year that hurts, yes, but after that, even going by his figures, the annual tax rate on that amount...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
29th Jun 2011, 07:24
Replies: 56
Views: 15,922
Posted By Voiceofreason

Psst - not sure where the idea came from that...

Psst - not sure where the idea came from that cadets never had to pay back their time. I had exactly the same conditions put on my training when I joined as the zero-experience guys are getting now -...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
27th Jun 2011, 09:29
Replies: 56
Views: 15,922
Posted By Voiceofreason

Not sure I know many people with anything less...

Not sure I know many people with anything less than a 20 year mortgage anyway. Yes, under the expat scheme, people are buying 5, 6 properties in 15 years, but the expat scheme at CX is a pretty...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
27th Jun 2011, 01:27
Replies: 56
Views: 15,922
Posted By Voiceofreason

@ChinaBeached

I won't go into (yet again) some of the debates on living costs (20 years to buying your own place? Please!), but two things you said caught my eye and led me to believe you really don't have all of...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
7th Jun 2011, 02:01
Replies: 163
Views: 84,556
Posted By Voiceofreason

Woodwork, you're new here, so I will just jump in...

Woodwork, you're new here, so I will just jump in and counter DanBuster's point above (again - we've been going back on forth on this thread for a while now!) by simply saying - yes it is. As an FO...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
1st Jun 2011, 09:52
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

All details of orders are on the CX website, so...

All details of orders are on the CX website, so you can see we only order the ER version.

Krashman - PM me and we can swap notes and try and work it all out!
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
31st May 2011, 14:18
Replies: 12
Views: 11,002
Posted By Voiceofreason

Yes, but different amounts in forgiveable loan,...

Yes, but different amounts in forgiveable loan, apparently.



Very unlikely.



Slowed down? Seems you haven't been following recently! Pm me if you'd like more specific info.
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
26th May 2011, 06:39
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

@ChinaBeached Nope - my post said "I'm...

@ChinaBeached



Nope - my post said "I'm just not sure you'll find one unless you go looking in the sandpit." I never said there weren't any better deals, just that I hadn't found them!

To my...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
26th May 2011, 01:21
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

FWIW, I think there is no point hoping and...

FWIW, I think there is no point hoping and waiting for this to happen. As far as I understand, expat terms are dead. They may improve the current local deal if they don't get the applicants, but...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
24th May 2011, 08:05
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

DanBuster

Let's try and agree somewhere first:



Agreed! More money is always good. But this iCadet programme started being advertised way before last year, even though they only recently improved it. And...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
24th May 2011, 06:10
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

@DanBuster So you're saying your own salary...

@DanBuster

So you're saying your own salary (forget the housing allowance for once, please) has not changed since Day 1 when you arrived in CX? If it has (and I am assuming it has), that means you...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
19th May 2011, 04:32
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

Tryharder Steer clear of complete naysayers...

Tryharder

Steer clear of complete naysayers at any event. There are plenty here who live just fine on the package. I'm with ETOPS 100% on this one - when compared to what else is out there, it's a...
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
1st May 2011, 08:02
Replies: 8,341
Views: 4,605,498
Posted By Voiceofreason

In theory, yes. In practice, just never going to...

In theory, yes. In practice, just never going to happen.

As I've tried explaining on this and other threads - it's a decent package when compared to others out there. That's the comparison new...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
30th Apr 2011, 07:58
Replies: 39
Views: 7,993
Posted By Voiceofreason

I understand your point on the 17% progressive...

I understand your point on the 17% progressive tax rate, but at the end of the day, I look at my tax bill and see how much tax I've paid versus how much my income is. When you factor in the standard...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
29th Apr 2011, 11:12
Replies: 39
Views: 7,993
Posted By Voiceofreason

Sure - why not!

Sure - why not!
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
29th Apr 2011, 08:40
Replies: 39
Views: 7,993
Posted By Voiceofreason

404 Not degrading anyone's conditions...

404



Not degrading anyone's conditions - mine (and a few hundred others') just improved in fact. Not saying either that this isn't less than what the equivalent experience bought you in CX (as...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
29th Apr 2011, 06:33
Replies: 39
Views: 7,993
Posted By Voiceofreason

Really? Have you seen the joining salaries of BA...

Really? Have you seen the joining salaries of BA recently? Or time to command?



Rubbish. By the time you get to captain on $130k+ if you can't afford a decent place to live you've screwed up...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
29th Apr 2011, 04:35
Replies: 39
Views: 7,993
Posted By Voiceofreason

True $10k for housing isn't a lot, but we're...

True $10k for housing isn't a lot, but we're talking about a $45k package. You can get somewhere decent to live for not hideous % of that. Admittedly, to have enough left over to enjoy yourself, you...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
29th Apr 2011, 03:00
Replies: 39
Views: 7,993
Posted By Voiceofreason

Yes, HK is my home, but it doesn't mean I have...

Yes, HK is my home, but it doesn't mean I have not lived elsewhere - Australia, UK and France. I know what it's like living in other countries, and I do miss the niceties of living outside a city....
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
29th Apr 2011, 01:12
Replies: 39
Views: 7,993
Posted By Voiceofreason

Good god this debate is whining even by PPRuNe's...

Good god this debate is whining even by PPRuNe's standards.

There are many, and I mean MANY (myself included) "expats" in Hong Kong who can and do survive on $45k a month quite happily (yes, with...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
28th Apr 2011, 05:08
Replies: 39
Views: 7,993
Posted By Voiceofreason

The Messiah's about right - depends on where you...

The Messiah's about right - depends on where you want to be and what you call "reasonable". The quoted figures of $25-$30k a month would get you some place pretty big (1200-1500 sqft), but you can...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Apr 2011, 05:37
Replies: 30
Views: 12,523
Posted By Voiceofreason

Indeed good questions all. Have they actually...

Indeed good questions all. Have they actually been asked, and what was the response if so?
Forum: South Asia and Far East Wannabes
29th Mar 2011, 02:25
Replies: 188
Views: 40,083
Posted By Voiceofreason

I've had a similar debate on the main forum, but...

I've had a similar debate on the main forum, but please tell me (I'm genuinely curious) who has a better package out there right now? Factoring everything in, I am staying in Hong Kong because the...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
23rd Mar 2011, 05:44
Replies: 104
Views: 24,010
Posted By Voiceofreason

You can commute on ID90 fares, and many do -...

You can commute on ID90 fares, and many do - provided you find someone decent enough to grant you his jumpseat.



I tend to agree with you. As I said, though, my 12k is based on a 70% mortgage,...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
22nd Mar 2011, 09:04
Replies: 104
Views: 24,010
Posted By Voiceofreason

Again, when I lived in the UK, it cost me at...

Again, when I lived in the UK, it cost me at least GBP10 to get into town and back followed by GBP4.50 for a pint. Just saying...



I thought we were talking about the Wannabes and what they...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
22nd Mar 2011, 08:40
Replies: 104
Views: 24,010
Posted By Voiceofreason

I guess one of the great things about Hong Kong...

I guess one of the great things about Hong Kong is that many places are not that far from town. I live less than 45 minutes from SoHo etc. which is a reasonable trip in any city. In fact, I would...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
22nd Mar 2011, 08:01
Replies: 104
Views: 24,010
Posted By Voiceofreason

None of those, but does it matter?

None of those, but does it matter?
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