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Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jun 2010, 15:15
Replies: 38
Views: 8,106
Posted By Stupendous Man

@HooliganBill - I stand corrected. I was under...

@HooliganBill - I stand corrected. I was under the impression that you couldn't extend your shift due to scratcoh.
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Jun 2010, 13:01
Replies: 38
Views: 8,106
Posted By Stupendous Man

Gurucube: There is no "standard overtime" in...

Gurucube: There is no "standard overtime" in addition to AAVAs - only AAVAs (part or whole or SOAL).
You cannot do any extra operational hours before or after a shift - that would break scratcoh....
Forum: ATC Issues
9th May 2010, 06:48
Replies: 17
Views: 4,385
Posted By Stupendous Man

Very sad news indeed, condolences to his all his...

Very sad news indeed, condolences to his all his family and friends.

RIP Bill


SM
Forum: ATC Issues
30th Apr 2009, 19:15
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,915
Posted By Stupendous Man

OMFG! Its this attitude towards the ballots...

OMFG!

Its this attitude towards the ballots that cause us problems.
If you think like that then of course its going to get voted in.
If the 30% that didn't vote over the pensions had voted then...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Apr 2009, 20:00
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,915
Posted By Stupendous Man

250 Kts & Anotherthing - hopefully you won't be...

250 Kts & Anotherthing - hopefully you won't be the only ones walking out the door if it comes to that. But there is a real fear that people at LAC / LL feel they are untouchable and what happens to...
Forum: ATC Issues
23rd Apr 2009, 19:54
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,915
Posted By Stupendous Man

Ayrprox, I think genuine lessons have been...

Ayrprox,
I think genuine lessons have been learned by the BEC over the pensions fiasco.

There will be an opportunity to talk to them and the local section shortly.

You will be able to meet...
Forum: ATC Issues
21st Apr 2009, 11:05
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,915
Posted By Stupendous Man

Grrr Not posted on here for a while, but one note on...

Not posted on here for a while, but one note on AAVAs and those who say the union should negotiate a better rate.

Why would management want to negotiate a better rate when people are coming in to...
Forum: ATC Issues
17th Nov 2008, 18:00
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

So you'd be happy with everything bar cost of...

So you'd be happy with everything bar cost of living rises being non-pensionable?

That means currently all work / changes done for WP etc would be a one off payment and not an actual pay increase....
Forum: ATC Issues
17th Nov 2008, 09:48
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

But RPI+1.5% is the figure that NATS and the...

But RPI+1.5% is the figure that NATS and the actuaries use to forcast the cost of the fund. Its THEIR figure. So if we're not going to get these pay rises why don't NATS readjust their forecast...
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Nov 2008, 17:01
Replies: 83
Views: 10,014
Posted By Stupendous Man

Does the AHPL (Assisted House Purchase Loan I...

Does the AHPL (Assisted House Purchase Loan I think) still exist?

Interest free (although there are tax implications depending on size of loan) loan from company when relocating?

This may be an...
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Nov 2008, 14:10
Replies: 83
Views: 10,014
Posted By Stupendous Man

What has that got to do with the move? I...

What has that got to do with the move?

I have a lot of sympathy for the guys moving up here who are having to uproot their families.

However...This has been on the cards for a while and so...
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Nov 2008, 13:00
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

Arrived today from my MP - Sandra Osborne... ...

Arrived today from my MP - Sandra Osborne...

Dear Stupendous Man (;))

Please find attached a copy of a reply I have received from Jim Fitzpatrick, Transport Minister regarding NATS Pension...
Forum: ATC Issues
13th Nov 2008, 12:41
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

And who is to say that any future pay rises wiil...

And who is to say that any future pay rises wiil be based on RPI + X%?

What if NATS offered a pay deal of 5% for 3-5 years? (just as an example)I think people would vote that in.
But then if RPI...
Forum: ATC Issues
9th Nov 2008, 15:10
Replies: 83
Views: 10,014
Posted By Stupendous Man

I'm afraid they can! The ocean can be moved...

I'm afraid they can!

The ocean can be moved in quite easily as all their kit is new and working (now!) and everyone is checked out on it. So unlike MACC - who have to move up - and the airways...
Forum: ATC Issues
5th Nov 2008, 12:38
Replies: 7
Views: 1,321
Posted By Stupendous Man

There is nothing to stop anyone withdrawing...

There is nothing to stop anyone withdrawing themselves from the AAVA agreement i.e don't do em!

The V is voluntary afterall!
Forum: ATC Issues
2nd Nov 2008, 17:29
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

Which in real terms is a pay cut

Which in real terms is a pay cut
Forum: ATC Issues
2nd Nov 2008, 15:43
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

Anotherthing said it best... A NO vote...

Anotherthing said it best...



A NO vote isn't a vote for industrial action like the Barron wants to say.

If we vote yes on this then kiss it all goodbye.

NSL will be gone in 3-5 years...
Forum: ATC Issues
29th Oct 2008, 13:57
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

My understanding is that the Barron can close the...

My understanding is that the Barron can close the scheme to new entrants when he likes. It will be their new T&Cs that they sign up to. He cannot implement the pensionable pay cap without a yes vote....
Forum: ATC Issues
26th Oct 2008, 13:24
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

There will be a special delegates conference held...

There will be a special delegates conference held just before the ADC next month. (The day before or morning before I think)
Motions can be submitted in the usual way.
Forum: ATC Issues
24th Oct 2008, 13:19
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

Anotherthing. The figure RPI + 0.5% is the...

Anotherthing.

The figure RPI + 0.5% is the one dreamed up by NATS to cap your pensionable pay - not any further pay rises. Its based on nothing - its just the number they want to use to reduce...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Oct 2008, 18:24
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

If so then why bother with the cap. If only the...

If so then why bother with the cap. If only the odd pay rise will be above +0.5.

Not all changes to WP are bad, but I agree with the leave. In no way should that even be put on any negotiating...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Oct 2008, 18:19
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

The modeller shows you what your pension will be...

The modeller shows you what your pension will be based on final salary X (RPI + X) figure that you put in and also shows what it would be X (RPI + 0.5).

So if you put in 1.5% like the acturies use...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Oct 2008, 10:42
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

From...

From http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmselect/cmpubacc/80/80.pdf




In my mind they are responsible for the risks they took on and therefore they should be providing the...
Forum: ATC Issues
14th Oct 2008, 10:38
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

Don't lose sight of things in the briefings....

Don't lose sight of things in the briefings. There will be lots of figures thrown about to prove the managements various points like how the £48 million pension holiday wasn't a lot of money, yet the...
Forum: ATC Issues
12th Oct 2008, 21:50
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

To find / write to your MP ...

To find / write to your MP

TheyWorkForYou.com: Are your MPs and Peers working for you in the UK's Parliament? (http://www.theyworkforyou.com/)
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Oct 2008, 09:19
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

And in these joint briefings don't direct all...

And in these joint briefings don't direct all your fury / questions at the NTUS guys. Management have caused this situation through poor planning. The £48 million they didn't put in could have been...
Forum: ATC Issues
11th Oct 2008, 09:16
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

This also means that even if people vote this...

This also means that even if people vote this sh1te through with a yes vote that there is nothing to stop Barron (or whoever he has sold us to) from saying "Look, we tried with the new pension and...
Forum: ATC Issues
4th Oct 2008, 00:15
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

Apparently he was at Scottish the other day. It...

Apparently he was at Scottish the other day. It was mentioned to him about the current pension situation. He appeared unaware of it and was apparently furious with the whole scenario.

Time to get...
Forum: ATC Issues
28th Sep 2008, 07:16
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

There was a petition for special conference doing...

There was a petition for special conference doing the rounds at MACC and ScOACC that basically went along the lines of the negotiating team is not to agree to anything on the pension front without...
Forum: ATC Issues
27th Sep 2008, 19:18
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

Surely capping at RPI + 0.5% is a change to our...

Surely capping at RPI + 0.5% is a change to our current basis??




So he's achieved what he set out to achieve back in 2006 AND we've let him cut our own pensions.
I ask again WTF happened...
Forum: ATC Issues
24th Sep 2008, 18:27
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

From Prospect ATCOs' Branch...

From Prospect ATCOs' Branch (http://www.atcos.co.uk)


To all Trade Union Members:



You will all now have seen the joint statement regarding the pension proposals.

We would like to make...
Forum: ATC Issues
24th Sep 2008, 11:03
Replies: 202
Views: 53,914
Posted By Stupendous Man

The Cap refers to PENSIONABLE pay. What this...

The Cap refers to PENSIONABLE pay. What this means that if the annual pay rise is RPI + 3% the only RPI + 0.5% of that will be contributing to your pension pot.

The actual payrises won't be capped.
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Sep 2008, 15:18
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

Bratbaak - as far as I am aware there can be no...

Bratbaak - as far as I am aware there can be no changes to our current pension scheme except by an act of parliament. In fact this works against us to a certain extent, because if we as emplyees said...
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Sep 2008, 10:37
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

TAD doesn't mention 2009 pay and was referring to...

TAD doesn't mention 2009 pay and was referring to the pension in his post - which is what I was replying to.

There is a pension discussion in the NATS forum.
Forum: ATC Issues
8th Sep 2008, 10:02
Replies: 2,029
Views: 217,726
Posted By Stupendous Man

This CAN'T happen :ugh::ugh::ugh: Any...

This CAN'T happen :ugh::ugh::ugh:

Any changes to the pension happen to the pension as a whole - not individual members.

Banding is not the issue here. It is an issue - just not this one.

If...
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