***NATS*** ATCO Overtime?
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***NATS*** ATCO Overtime?
Is it possible for ATCO's to do over time in addition to their salaried hours? If it is, are all validated ATCO's able to do this is is it only available once you have reached your third year and been placed on the full pay scale?
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Is that available to any Validated controller or just those on the full pay scale? Also, in your experience is over time available in abundance (i.e. do the units require ATCO's to work over time on a regular basis to function) or is it restricted/unusual?
Final question, I assume the amount of OT that any conrtoller is regulated by the CAA/ICAO along with working hours etc etc.
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Is that available to any Validated controller or just those on the full pay scale? Also, in your experience is over time available in abundance (i.e. do the units require ATCO's to work over time on a regular basis to function) or is it restricted/unusual?
Final question, I assume the amount of OT that any conrtoller is regulated by the CAA/ICAO along with working hours etc etc.
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Just to clarify;
The guys above are correct, however they are referring to 'additional attendances', i.e. working a full shift on a day off. NATS ATCOs can also work standard overtime hours before or after a normal shift, but this is fairly rare in comparison because of the way staffing is covered at most units.
All of the above are subject to the UK CAA SRATCOH regulations.
The guys above are correct, however they are referring to 'additional attendances', i.e. working a full shift on a day off. NATS ATCOs can also work standard overtime hours before or after a normal shift, but this is fairly rare in comparison because of the way staffing is covered at most units.
All of the above are subject to the UK CAA SRATCOH regulations.
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Gurucube: There is no "standard overtime" in addition to AAVAs - only AAVAs (part or whole or SOAL).
You cannot do any extra operational hours before or after a shift - that would break scratcoh. You can come in / stay for meetings before / after shifts and be awarded TOIL.
You cannot do any extra operational hours before or after a shift - that would break scratcoh. You can come in / stay for meetings before / after shifts and be awarded TOIL.
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Gurucube: There is no "standard overtime" in addition to AAVAs - only AAVAs (part or whole or SOAL).
You cannot do any extra operational hours before or after a shift - that would break scratcoh. You can come in / stay for meetings before / after shifts and be awarded TOIL.
You cannot do any extra operational hours before or after a shift - that would break scratcoh. You can come in / stay for meetings before / after shifts and be awarded TOIL.
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2.12 Overtime will only be used for extension of shifts or for part-timers (see paragraph 1.3) and not as a substitute for additional attendances.
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If you referring to the terming "band 5/band 4" it is to do with the way the salary progression is constructed. There are 5 bandings working from 1 to 5 (that is to say in order to earn the maximum salary in the UK you would have to work at a Band 5 unit).
Yahoo has given some examples of the different units.
If you referring to the terming "band 5/band 4" it is to do with the way the salary progression is constructed. There are 5 bandings working from 1 to 5 (that is to say in order to earn the maximum salary in the UK you would have to work at a Band 5 unit).
Yahoo has given some examples of the different units.
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Hi Yahoo,
Did you highlight Stansted as a unit which doesn't have much overtime available? Is this because its a quiet airport or because they operate with a full compliment of atcos? or something else?
Did you highlight Stansted as a unit which doesn't have much overtime available? Is this because its a quiet airport or because they operate with a full compliment of atcos? or something else?
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Eventually yes, telephone numbers.
But until you hit 3 years service the salary is (understandably) significantly below the full atco rate so overtime would be a suitable way of bridging the gap
But until you hit 3 years service the salary is (understandably) significantly below the full atco rate so overtime would be a suitable way of bridging the gap
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Dead right Nimmer... I can't comprehend anyone coming into ATC with overtime at the forefront of their mind because there is absolutely no guarantee that it may be available. He might get overtime, he might not. It depends wholly on the staffing levels.
whitelighter: I don't know what stage of your training you are at, but you can't just decide where you're going to be posted if and when you pass the course; there might not be vacancies, you won't even be considered for AAVA's until you validate (12 months?) and even then you'll be in a queue behind all the more senior staff there.
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From my experience allocation of an AAVA was down to 'being in the right place at the right time'. HR at Drayton claimed they kept a record to go some way to ensure some fairness...