Hangar SOP to View?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hangar SOP to View?
I'm looking for a hangar SOP. I've searched the Net for days, downloaded a lot of materials and information and have begun putting some of it together as an outline for my company's own hangar facility SOP.
Does someone have, or know where I can at least view, an SOP for a hangar? This isn't just a copy, cut & paste job. I'd like to see at least one good example of a hangar SOP before making a draft of my own. Thanks for any help.
Does someone have, or know where I can at least view, an SOP for a hangar? This isn't just a copy, cut & paste job. I'd like to see at least one good example of a hangar SOP before making a draft of my own. Thanks for any help.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Clarification
Even though the word sounded sensible when I wrote it, you're right: "hangar" was a little too cryptic <grin>.
I meant an example of standard operating procedures (an SOP) for an aircraft hangar, i.e., an aircraft shelter. And all that is not meant to be facetious, but only to clarify what I'm looking for to any reader.
So far, I have organized some chapter titles like:
* General
* Hangar Site Details,
* Hangar Operating/Safety Procedures
* Emergency Response Plan
* Hangar Administration (i.e., Org Chart)
* Appendices
However, the content I have is still weak and I'm sure the chapters and information could be rearranged. So again, if someone should have, or know where I could view, an aircraft hangar SOP - or something similar by any other name - I'd be grateful for any help.
I meant an example of standard operating procedures (an SOP) for an aircraft hangar, i.e., an aircraft shelter. And all that is not meant to be facetious, but only to clarify what I'm looking for to any reader.
So far, I have organized some chapter titles like:
* General
* Hangar Site Details,
* Hangar Operating/Safety Procedures
* Emergency Response Plan
* Hangar Administration (i.e., Org Chart)
* Appendices
However, the content I have is still weak and I'm sure the chapters and information could be rearranged. So again, if someone should have, or know where I could view, an aircraft hangar SOP - or something similar by any other name - I'd be grateful for any help.
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: A long way from home
Age: 44
Posts: 375
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Does such a thing as a hangar SOP really exist? Surely it's just a case of:
- Ensure doors are open when moving aircraft into or out of the hangar.
- Lock doors when you go home.
- Common sense is to be used at all times.
Or am I missing something?
- Ensure doors are open when moving aircraft into or out of the hangar.
- Lock doors when you go home.
- Common sense is to be used at all times.
Or am I missing something?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yes & No <g>
It all depends on who your boss is and the climate in which you work <grin>. Take for example, your ". . . when moving aircraft into and out of the hangar". If pressed, I'm sure you could come up with some - or many - procedures for doing only this. Wingwalkers, use of tugs, attachment points, etc. might be a starting point just for aircraft movements.
Other items, like housekeeping, FOD, the hangar's org chart (i.e., who is in charge), all could be added. I realize that what and how much goes into the finished SOP might depend on how obsessed you or your boss is <g>. That's why I'd give anything to see someone else's SOP for a hangar facility before I publish the one I've got to make.
See what I mean? - it all depends <grin>. Can you help me?
Other items, like housekeeping, FOD, the hangar's org chart (i.e., who is in charge), all could be added. I realize that what and how much goes into the finished SOP might depend on how obsessed you or your boss is <g>. That's why I'd give anything to see someone else's SOP for a hangar facility before I publish the one I've got to make.
See what I mean? - it all depends <grin>. Can you help me?
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Hucking Fell
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi FW1
The best answer here is going to come from you. What you want to derive is a set of procedures for for a facility. (Call them SOPs if you want).
To be honest I've never had to write/derive a set of SOPs for a hangar, but if I was asked I guess it would be along the lines of....
1st. Is the facility fit for purpose ? (yes/no)
2. Does ma plane/heli/top secret project fit through the front door (yes/no)
If all Ok above then.......
Walk the course. Start by how are you going to Open the hangar doors, then how you are going to move your heavier than air machine in and park it safely.
What are you going to be doing to it while its in there. ?
And when you've finished doing whatever you want to do
How do you drag the brute out again. ?
Much of this is people based process, and it would be worth taking relevant stakeholders with you on your walkabout, and seek their opinion.
Take notes as you go along, (photos if you wish - always useful)
Having accrued the knowledge, stick it into some simple procedures for each process, put them in a manual, and er..... call em Hangar SOPs.
A simplistic view I know, but you get my drift.
Don't think you will have much joy with getting people to share their hangar SOPs with. If they have them, they are probably the result of a lot of hard work, and form part of a company manual that will be subject to confidentialty laws.
PPrune is a free form public forum, with specific subject matter, and as wonderful and varied as that content is, it does have its limitations.
BS
The best answer here is going to come from you. What you want to derive is a set of procedures for for a facility. (Call them SOPs if you want).
To be honest I've never had to write/derive a set of SOPs for a hangar, but if I was asked I guess it would be along the lines of....
1st. Is the facility fit for purpose ? (yes/no)
2. Does ma plane/heli/top secret project fit through the front door (yes/no)
If all Ok above then.......
Walk the course. Start by how are you going to Open the hangar doors, then how you are going to move your heavier than air machine in and park it safely.
What are you going to be doing to it while its in there. ?
And when you've finished doing whatever you want to do
How do you drag the brute out again. ?
Much of this is people based process, and it would be worth taking relevant stakeholders with you on your walkabout, and seek their opinion.
Take notes as you go along, (photos if you wish - always useful)
Having accrued the knowledge, stick it into some simple procedures for each process, put them in a manual, and er..... call em Hangar SOPs.
A simplistic view I know, but you get my drift.
Don't think you will have much joy with getting people to share their hangar SOPs with. If they have them, they are probably the result of a lot of hard work, and form part of a company manual that will be subject to confidentialty laws.
PPrune is a free form public forum, with specific subject matter, and as wonderful and varied as that content is, it does have its limitations.
BS
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Testing . . .1 . . . 2 . . .3 <grin>
On 16 Sept 11 Burr Styers wrote:
“PPRuNe is a free form public forum, with specific subject matter, and as wonderful and varied as that content is, it does have its limitations. [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Fred/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]”
True. Let’s say I was just testing those limits <Big Grin>.
------------------------------
Thanks, your ideas, although not exactly a complete, ready-to-go SOP for a hangar, did ring true. I need to keep this SOP simple, as in “KISS”.
Interestingly, when I first started researching and collecting materials for this extravaganza, I read and saved several large, complex documents about electric hangar door safety (i.e., no one gets mangled). Then, a week or so later, when I finally went to the facility for a walkaround, I found that both the facility’s good-sized, fairly modern hangars had no doors at all! Just open, gaping holes <g>. I guess this being Asia, and the airport being operated by the local air force, they figured who needs doors? So it looks like your ideas about getting started might work after all <g>.
And as far as your location being “hucking fell” in Asia, I can’t imagine where that would be. With plenty of nice looking wimmenz and lots of decent, inexpensive food the only place that might qualify is some Cambodian extermination camp <ggg>. If that’s where you are writing from, God spede! <Big Grin>.
Now, let’s see what I can develop. Thanks.
“PPRuNe is a free form public forum, with specific subject matter, and as wonderful and varied as that content is, it does have its limitations. [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Fred/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]”
True. Let’s say I was just testing those limits <Big Grin>.
------------------------------
Thanks, your ideas, although not exactly a complete, ready-to-go SOP for a hangar, did ring true. I need to keep this SOP simple, as in “KISS”.
Interestingly, when I first started researching and collecting materials for this extravaganza, I read and saved several large, complex documents about electric hangar door safety (i.e., no one gets mangled). Then, a week or so later, when I finally went to the facility for a walkaround, I found that both the facility’s good-sized, fairly modern hangars had no doors at all! Just open, gaping holes <g>. I guess this being Asia, and the airport being operated by the local air force, they figured who needs doors? So it looks like your ideas about getting started might work after all <g>.
And as far as your location being “hucking fell” in Asia, I can’t imagine where that would be. With plenty of nice looking wimmenz and lots of decent, inexpensive food the only place that might qualify is some Cambodian extermination camp <ggg>. If that’s where you are writing from, God spede! <Big Grin>.
Now, let’s see what I can develop. Thanks.
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Hucking Fell
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi FW
No probs, the location was from when I was living in another part of the world, praps I should update and call it "Hucking Fell - but with added palm trees", ........and beaches, and good food, and smart looking women, no snow or ice - ever, and so on.
I'm less than a thousand nautics from you.
And back to subject, looks like Ross M has come up with an example that you could develop
Off topic, the qualities of my original location are not actually reflected in my play on words. A fell is another name for a geographic feature (Hills and valleys), usually in the North of England, I'm not from there either, but its difficult sometimes to try and find original passwords etc, so I took a well known anglo saxon expression and changed it around slightly. P'raps I should update it
Stay safe, and good luck with your project.
BS
No probs, the location was from when I was living in another part of the world, praps I should update and call it "Hucking Fell - but with added palm trees", ........and beaches, and good food, and smart looking women, no snow or ice - ever, and so on.
I'm less than a thousand nautics from you.
And back to subject, looks like Ross M has come up with an example that you could develop
Off topic, the qualities of my original location are not actually reflected in my play on words. A fell is another name for a geographic feature (Hills and valleys), usually in the North of England, I'm not from there either, but its difficult sometimes to try and find original passwords etc, so I took a well known anglo saxon expression and changed it around slightly. P'raps I should update it
Stay safe, and good luck with your project.
BS
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ross: that link you provided has been duly downloaded and will become part of my on-going effort NLT Monday. Thanks much. How’s it going in Madison – you’re not one of those world-famous, U of W hell-raisers, are you? <GRIN!>
Burr, later I’m going to get my compass and plotter out later to see where you might be in SEA <g>.
Gentlemen, thank you very much for your help. All has given me added energy to keep pounding away at the keyboard <g>. I’m sure I can put something together to satisfy the need for some organization at that hangar facility. Above all, I’ll follow my Helicopter Hippocratic Oath of “At the very least, Do No Harm”. <G>.
Burr, later I’m going to get my compass and plotter out later to see where you might be in SEA <g>.
Gentlemen, thank you very much for your help. All has given me added energy to keep pounding away at the keyboard <g>. I’m sure I can put something together to satisfy the need for some organization at that hangar facility. Above all, I’ll follow my Helicopter Hippocratic Oath of “At the very least, Do No Harm”. <G>.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Hucking Fell
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
FW1
My helicopter oath was " Lets pull pitch and get the F*** outta here"
You will find kindered spirits in PPRUNe "Rotorheads" - but you probably knew that already.
Most fun with your pants on - AS365N2 Dauphin.
Rgds
BS
My helicopter oath was " Lets pull pitch and get the F*** outta here"
You will find kindered spirits in PPRUNe "Rotorheads" - but you probably knew that already.
Most fun with your pants on - AS365N2 Dauphin.
Rgds
BS
Sounds like you need an exposition.
The UK CAA have a template for one, desgined for EASA Part 145, but should be of use to you.
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...0&pageid=10066
The UK CAA have a template for one, desgined for EASA Part 145, but should be of use to you.
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...0&pageid=10066
