L@ser attacks on Aircraft
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Originally Posted by lambofGod
... I know I should stay away from l@sers. Especialy when I dream to be a pilot. If anything happened at my age, I would ofcourse look back at it and say "damn I was irresponsibe".
Incidents seem to be increasing in the US. Anyway, 18 months of federal prison time for a Fresno woman should serve as a warning:
Lasers worry pilots, officers | PressDemocrat.com | The Press Democrat | Santa Rosa, CA
Lasers worry pilots, officers | PressDemocrat.com | The Press Democrat | Santa Rosa, CA
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Planes targeted by laser pointers
At least five attempts have been made to dazzle pilots with laser pointers in the skies over Northern Ireland in the last six months, it has emerged.
This is according to the Civil Aviation Authority.
In the most serious incident on 4 August, the captain of a Boeing 737 was hit in the eye with a laser as he made his approach to Belfast City Airport.
On Halloween night, numerous planes - on approach to the same airport - were targeted by a green laser.
Caroline Evans from the British Airline Pilots Association said there have been prosecutions in other parts of the UK.
"The offence, endangering the safety of an aircraft, comes under the Air Navigation Order and carries a custodial sentence," she said.
"We would like to see anybody who is stupid enough to do this, put behind bars and taught a lesson."
Source - BBC
This is according to the Civil Aviation Authority.
In the most serious incident on 4 August, the captain of a Boeing 737 was hit in the eye with a laser as he made his approach to Belfast City Airport.
On Halloween night, numerous planes - on approach to the same airport - were targeted by a green laser.
Caroline Evans from the British Airline Pilots Association said there have been prosecutions in other parts of the UK.
"The offence, endangering the safety of an aircraft, comes under the Air Navigation Order and carries a custodial sentence," she said.
"We would like to see anybody who is stupid enough to do this, put behind bars and taught a lesson."
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Another one, I'm afraid.
BBC NEWS | Scotland | Edinburgh, East and Fife | Airline highlights laser dangers
BBC NEWS | Scotland | Edinburgh, East and Fife | Airline highlights laser dangers
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Lasers
Hey mate, I heard of your laser attack.
Can you describe the laser, was is like someone shining a light in your eyes? Or looking at the clouds on a sunny day after wakeing up and you feel your eye muscles retract and it hurts a bit. Or possibly just a green light shining in the distance.
And were you ferrying this 767? I'm sorry I'm just obsessed with aviation and i'm a laser enthusiast aswell so would like to hear the details...
Can you describe the laser, was is like someone shining a light in your eyes? Or looking at the clouds on a sunny day after wakeing up and you feel your eye muscles retract and it hurts a bit. Or possibly just a green light shining in the distance.
And were you ferrying this 767? I'm sorry I'm just obsessed with aviation and i'm a laser enthusiast aswell so would like to hear the details...
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captainspeaking,
Oh come.... I'm older than you, but I can still remember some of the things I did when I was 16.
Like making gunpowder, and producing some very loud bangs? And messing around with perchlorate and sugar, ditto? Or making tiny rocket engines with tamped-down perchlorate and kerosene? Never launched one, but they whizzed down the garden path on little wheels a treat.
I far prefer to see LegofLamb here, and willing to learn how to "play safe", rather than ban the curious and inquisitive "young generation" from this forum.
CJ
Oh come.... I'm older than you, but I can still remember some of the things I did when I was 16.
Like making gunpowder, and producing some very loud bangs? And messing around with perchlorate and sugar, ditto? Or making tiny rocket engines with tamped-down perchlorate and kerosene? Never launched one, but they whizzed down the garden path on little wheels a treat.
I far prefer to see LegofLamb here, and willing to learn how to "play safe", rather than ban the curious and inquisitive "young generation" from this forum.
CJ
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If anyone has questions, i have one of those lasers which is stronger than those average lasers used on attacks. How do i know this? It's because i know a lot about lasers and bought it from a trustable source thus i know not to shine on anything but the open sky and sometimes bigger buildings without windows. Mine costs much more than those used with laser attacks. Those cheaper lasers are a bit more dangerous than mine since it leaks a lot of "IR".
I'm a member at this site.
However! I've stopped using it because the more i read and learn, the more I understand how dangerous they are. I know that they were dangerous before i bought one but it seems as if they are more dangerous than i expected. If i shine on a wall 6 meters away, the reflections (dot) can be dangerous to look at! How about that!
I've seen people shine a laser through a window from the inside of a car! Thats dangerous if you use a stronger laser like 100mw!
Eikido
I'm a member at this site.
However! I've stopped using it because the more i read and learn, the more I understand how dangerous they are. I know that they were dangerous before i bought one but it seems as if they are more dangerous than i expected. If i shine on a wall 6 meters away, the reflections (dot) can be dangerous to look at! How about that!
I've seen people shine a laser through a window from the inside of a car! Thats dangerous if you use a stronger laser like 100mw!
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L+ser attack
I have posted here before, but was struck by the post " what does it feel like? "
I am a technical photographer, and years ago worked on test ranges recording the results of laser designated bombs.
I had eye protection and a l*ser detector ( from inside a 1950's plywood caravan rather close to the target ) ! -
Snag is, such protection has to be tuned to the frequency of the expected bad guy's kit.
This is a lot different compared to some idiot kid playing with things bought on the 'net - BUT ! this thing was not a weapon, just a designator, but it had a BLINDING - not dazzling - range of 9 miles.
The expert who briefed me had one eye, after a l*ser lab accident - he descibed it as the most unbearable pain he'd ever known, as his eyeball literally exploded.
I suspect the kiddies' version will just give a dazzling effect, if one can resist the instinctive reaction to look towards what's bothering you.
I still don't fancy that on finals, and just to boost your blood pressure a little more, there are deliberate anti-fighter Pilot Incapacitation L*sers ( P.I.L's ) which can seriously dazzle or blind the pilot as set ( seems the same end result to me in a low level aircraft )- even Admiral Sandy Woodward mentions having them on some ships in 1982, but the story goes that they never had a chance to use them, then they were found to contravene the Geneva Convention so binned.
I am sure people who use a gullible 13 year old with a wheelbarrow full of explosives share the same scruples...
Countermeasures are being developed, in the meantime it's up to you guys - I'd have the first officer under something like an 'instrument training hood' for now, whether approaching Birmingham or Basra.
I am a technical photographer, and years ago worked on test ranges recording the results of laser designated bombs.
I had eye protection and a l*ser detector ( from inside a 1950's plywood caravan rather close to the target ) ! -
Snag is, such protection has to be tuned to the frequency of the expected bad guy's kit.
This is a lot different compared to some idiot kid playing with things bought on the 'net - BUT ! this thing was not a weapon, just a designator, but it had a BLINDING - not dazzling - range of 9 miles.
The expert who briefed me had one eye, after a l*ser lab accident - he descibed it as the most unbearable pain he'd ever known, as his eyeball literally exploded.
I suspect the kiddies' version will just give a dazzling effect, if one can resist the instinctive reaction to look towards what's bothering you.
I still don't fancy that on finals, and just to boost your blood pressure a little more, there are deliberate anti-fighter Pilot Incapacitation L*sers ( P.I.L's ) which can seriously dazzle or blind the pilot as set ( seems the same end result to me in a low level aircraft )- even Admiral Sandy Woodward mentions having them on some ships in 1982, but the story goes that they never had a chance to use them, then they were found to contravene the Geneva Convention so binned.
I am sure people who use a gullible 13 year old with a wheelbarrow full of explosives share the same scruples...
Countermeasures are being developed, in the meantime it's up to you guys - I'd have the first officer under something like an 'instrument training hood' for now, whether approaching Birmingham or Basra.
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Rescue Helicopter laser attack
A Bulgarian immigrant has been charged with shining a hand held laser at the Rescue Helicopter while flying over Caol Fort William en route to refuelling base.
Case will be called in February,suspect out on bail.
Will follow up with court dealings.
Case will be called in February,suspect out on bail.
Will follow up with court dealings.
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RTÉ News: Pilots call for handheld laser ban
10 reported attacks in DUB since September!
For my own clarification, are we talking about the stronger green lasers here in general, or just those tiny red ones?
10 reported attacks in DUB since September!
For my own clarification, are we talking about the stronger green lasers here in general, or just those tiny red ones?
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Originally Posted by dubh12000
For my own clarification, are we talking about the stronger green lasers here in general, or just those tiny red ones?
In brief, the 'tiny red ones' used as handheld pointers during lectures are limited to something like 1mW and are considered safe. Much the same applies to the slightly more powerful ones sold for jobs such as levelling a structure on a building site, as they're normally used under controlled conditions.
So yes, we're talking about the stronger green lasers which can be up to 100 to 300 mW, yet be still handheld.... They seem to have a few legal uses, but most now seem to end up with chavs and yobbos using them to burn legs off chairs and put the resulting video on YouTube, or indeed to target aircraft.
CJ
Those offenders stupid enough to target police helicopters are the most likely ones to get caught, like this one here:
Man charged after laser directed at police helicopter | StarNewsOnline.com | Star-News | Wilmington, NC
Man charged after laser directed at police helicopter | StarNewsOnline.com | Star-News | Wilmington, NC
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Just been on BBC radio 2 news.....man in North East England has been jailed for one of these stupid attacks.BBC NEWS | England | Man jailed for 'blinding' pilot
I had to trawl through the BBC site to find it....obviously, the Wedgewood factory's financial problems are far more important
I had to trawl through the BBC site to find it....obviously, the Wedgewood factory's financial problems are far more important
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A lot of the Trolls using Lasers are using these which are not the Cheap low power pointers nomanly thought of by the public.
These can be seen for over 15 Miles they can burn plastic at 100s of metres distance and are a real hazard to any one flying any where nere these idiots.
These can be seen for over 15 Miles they can burn plastic at 100s of metres distance and are a real hazard to any one flying any where nere these idiots.
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Man jailed for 'blinding' pilot
Its about time action was taken on these incidents.
A Teesside man who shone a laser pen into an aircraft, temporarily blinding the pilot, has been sent to a young offenders' institution for four months.
Man jailed for 'blinding' pilot
A Teesside man who shone a laser pen into an aircraft, temporarily blinding the pilot, has been sent to a young offenders' institution for four months.
Man jailed for 'blinding' pilot
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"I had to trawl through the BBC site to find it....obviously, the Wedgewood factory's financial problems are far more important "
Give your head a shake
If you'd turned on your telly instead of surfing you'd have seen it had plenty of prominence in the News programmes. I doubt the people at Wedgwood would complain if they weren't on the News either
Give your head a shake
If you'd turned on your telly instead of surfing you'd have seen it had plenty of prominence in the News programmes. I doubt the people at Wedgwood would complain if they weren't on the News either
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how can this be . . . . . . . . ?
It is truly outrageous that more adverts for these devices are being permitted here, as in the commercial link in the post above. The same link has now been in place in post #217 above for well over 24 hours. After all the problems there were a couple of months ago with the Google ads, how can PPRuNe leave these links in place ?
In the Medical forum "commercial links" get deleted forthwith, even when it is just a link to physician information on a medical product. There's double standards somewhere here.
In the Medical forum "commercial links" get deleted forthwith, even when it is just a link to physician information on a medical product. There's double standards somewhere here.