Which sector do you want?

[Pilot Pete]

Nice analogy until you suggested that the F/O ALWAYS has the say when downroute.....

PP

[CPR]

No............Just said he is always on the first tee first.After that..who knows.
Either way, to have a harmonious working relationship we should always treat each other with the respect that we would wish to be treated ourselves.
You may be in the right seat for a while,,,,,,,,but generally you will be in the left seat alot longer.

[PGA]

Just out of interest. I`m a non UK f/o working for a UK airline. This obviously causes little problems every now and then language wise. I`m not refering to the inability to speak English but more the inability to express yourself the way you exactly want, or use a certain form of subbtleness you just don`t have as a non native speaker. Do many of you ever feel offended by certain habits or ways of expression some of your foreign, european, colleagues use, although probably unintended? Curious as well as to which nationalities you`re finding more difficult to deal with.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts in advance.

[issi noho]

Thats easy its the Dutch.


running for cover now.

[Pilot Pete]

Thats easy its the Dutch

It's interesting you should say that. I refrained, but as you have mentioned it I will add that my company have had a few problems with new Dutch pilots (don't get me wrong, there are plenty of good ones too!), but it seems that there is a disproportionate number of them with problems during line training, mostly down to attitude or perceived attitude (that could be the cultural/ language difference you talk about. I am not a trainer, so I have heard this secondhand.

PP

[issi noho]

PP

Fools rush in and so on...

PGA

Vive Le Difference!

sorry for my total lack of Dutch

[CamelhAir]

Thats easy its the Dutch

I second that. Like Pilot Pete, I have found a disproportionate number of
our flat-countried friends to have more difficult attitudes than required. I think it's because they don't mince their words. Laudable when necessary, not so during an ordinary days work. And please please, can somebody tell them that what KLM does is necessarily the "besht" way?!

[Pilot Pete]

Originally Posted by CamelhAir

And please please, can somebody tell them that what KLM does is necessarily the "besht" way?!

I think you missed out the "n't" from that last statement!!

PP

[CamelhAir]

I think you missed out the "n't" from that last statement!!

You are, of course, correct! All this talk of now great KLM* is must be affecting me subliminally.

* - or Air France by KLM, or Air France (Holland) when you require an end to such a conversation.