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InvestigateUdom 13th July 2008 19:48

One-Two-Go Grounded!
 
The DCA has finally revoked One-Two-Go's AOC due to public pressure over the fraudulent check rides and complete lack of credible training records.

Posted on the 12go website is the following message: * Due to an overhaul on our systems, passengers will be able to book for flights until 14 July 2008, One Two Go Airlines would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused. Not clear English, but it still says it all. They are shut down.

See proof of fraudulent check rides and OG269's black box recording on the InvestigateUdom
petition site timeline. (The checkride fraud is dated June 4, 2008. The blackbox info is June 12, 2008.)

Additional signatures on the petition for an open and transparent investigation into the crash of OG269 are always appreciated.

Xeque 14th July 2008 05:52

Investigateudom
 
The message currently says


* Due to an overhaul on our systems, passengers will be able to book for flights until 31 July 2008, One Two Go Airlines would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused.
Has that been changed since you first saw the message?

rolibkk 14th July 2008 07:02

The message was changed from 14th to 31st. Either they paid some money to the DCA or the order to revoke the AOC is still pending. Don't forget here in BKK such issues can be delayed for months if one has the right connections.

ChristySweet 14th July 2008 07:02

NOw it's July 21
 
1- 2 Go site is stating can book up until July 21 as of just a minute ago.
There is absolultely no mention of any " grounding" in any news source...

411A 14th July 2008 10:22

I wouldn't get too excited about all this.
This has happened all before with Udom, and his previous Orient Thai...the guy is as slippery as an eel.

InvestigateUdom 14th July 2008 13:45

Don't forget, the FAA is returning to Thailand soon to wrap up the IASA audit.

I wonder if revoking the AOC for fraudulent checkrides and failure to train and then postponing the revocation until convenient for the airline will help Thailand retain their category 1 rating in the US?

Pom Pax 15th July 2008 02:28


There is absolultely no mention of any " grounding" in any news source...
Might I respectfully suggest that you guys are reading something into this that is not there.
My interpretation of the message would be that they are upgrading their online booking system.

B747-800 15th July 2008 02:55

FAA will threaten Thailand with downgrading to CAT 2! Don't you think so?

Bob Hawke 15th July 2008 03:30

The slippery eel will do a deal. Brown paper bags go along way. Hopefully there pressure on TG will not allow this to happen as the audit from the FAA is just to much to gloss over with abit of tea money.

bkkfly 15th July 2008 06:49

Pressure on Udom-join it. Start emailing campaign to the DCA
 
As I know:

Udom has disappeared to China along with his daughter and family in order to avoid FAA and media: source OG cabin crew.

Flight attendents are also over their duty time. In addition F/A of OG can no longer fly on OX flights after FAA investigation. Many will lose their jobs.

If Thailand's status is downgraded TG will no longer be able to fly US.

A large amount of money has been paid to DCA to allow OG to remain flying despite the revocation order. Authorities are scared of the neg publicity and damage to an already fragile tourist industry should the airline be grounded (which incidently also carries the national colours).

As another post states Udom has been throught this before and is a very capable "greaser". The only hope is the attention of foreign media will now be his downfall. Have a look at the recent interview with him on the Austalian channel 9 sunday program where he is shown smoking in the office defending his airline at the same time. The program succeeds in making him look like the real creep that he is.

I think we should start emailing the DCA....

CargoOne 15th July 2008 09:52

bkkfly


If Thailand's status is downgraded TG will no longer be able to fly US.
As far as I remember if FAA downgrading the country from Cat 1 to Cat 2, it means that existing services can be maintained but no extra routes/frequencies until the problem resolved.

InvestigateUdom 15th July 2008 11:29

FAA category 2 is restricted as CargoOne describes.
FAA delisted is a ban.

rolibkk 15th July 2008 11:55

Optimist?
 
Pom Pax, either you are one of them or a real optimist. No system upgrade takes 4 to 5 days. What they do is basically let the passengers believe that they still can fly until the date mentioned. The date gets updated based on the information OX receives from DCA. Initially it was the 14th, then it moved to 31st, now it says 21st. If DCA decides to postpone the release of the findings, you will see the message being updated.

Do you really think they would post a message saying: "as we are under investigation by the DCA and the chances are high that our AOC is going to be revoked soon, you can only make bookings until 21st July".

411A 15th July 2008 12:11


Udom has disappeared to China along with his daughter and family in order to avoid FAA and media: source OG cabin crew.
Ah yes, the usual 'reliable source'.:rolleyes:

I suspect that 1-2-go will have it's AOC suspended for a short period, the furor dies down, then business as usual, once again.
Thai culture, like a leopards spots, do not change.
Time will tell if I'm right.

ChristySweet 16th July 2008 03:40

We must stop Udom
 
Well yes I agree that's how things have happened in the past, in ThaiLieLand but you have a quite a determined group of people working on this and we aren't going to let that happen - are we???
It's easy to say "Oh, no one can change anything.." but that really isn't true.
More often than not, one woman can change everything- look at Candy Lightner in the US , she changed the entire aspects of driving drunk in America after losing her child to a drunk driver- she founded MADD
I think Bonnie Rind will do the same for Air safety and we must all help her .

Any idea when NTSB coming I'd love to talk directly to them??
I will compile a e mail list too ..

ZFT 16th July 2008 07:32

Bangkok Post 16 July 2008

Someone's telling porkies!!!

AVIATION

One-Two-Go ponders temporary grounding


Founder approaches 'a painful decision'

BOONSONG KOSITCHOTETHANA
The founder of One-Two-Go Airlines is taking a long, hard look at the possibility of ceasing the budget carrier's flight operations in a damage-control exercise at a time of skyrocketing fuel prices and declining traffic demand.

Udom Tantiprasongchai told the Bangkok Post that he was seriously pondering whether to ground One-Two-Go "temporarily" on mounting cost pressures and poor business outlook.

"I'm not lying to myself about the reality of the situation. A painful decision needs to be made," he said.

One-Two-Go is one of the three Thai no-frills carriers, all of which are struggling with fuel prices that have doubled in the past year to above $170 a barrel.

Nok Airlines, 39% owned by Thai Airways International, is also facing troubles, since last July losing 114 million baht. Nok recently won a reprieve from shareholders to continue to fly after the management committed to a rehabilitation package including downsizing of operations, halving the fleet, and cutting salaries of senior staff.

With the package, Nok hopes to return to a break-even point over the next six months and turn a profit in the following six months.

Meanwhile, Thai AirAsia is fighting to curtail losses this year, adopting some methods that are unconventional for low-cost carriers, to boost revenues and keep seats filled even it means they do not offer any profit margin.

The no-frills carrier could be in the red again this year but hoped the losses would be less than in 2007, chief executive Tassapon Bijleveld has said.

Mr Udom's plan to suspend One-Two-Go was also influenced by a sense of betrayal from his two local rivals, which earlier agreed to adopt a survival package a few weeks ago but failed to follow through.

It was agreed that the trio would avoid price-cutting while increasing fuel surcharges, raising fares, reducing capacity and dropping low-traffic routes.

Mr Udom said domestic fares needed to go up by 30% from current levels to about 2,500 baht per leg.

The average domestic fares charged by Thai Airways International is roughly 2,200 baht, compared with 2,000 baht for One-Two-Go, and 1,500 baht for Thai AirAsia and Nok Air.

Fuel surcharges would need to increase to better reflect high fuel prices. Starting on July 5, One-Two-Go raised its fuel surcharge by 100 baht to 850 baht a leg. Fuel now accounts for 70% of its total operating costs, according to Mr Udom.

The higher percentage of fuel is due to its use of eight ageing and fuel-thirsty MD 80 series jets.

"In this kind of environment, anyone can go (bust) anytime," he said.

As a prelude to to a more drastic decision, One-Two-Go has cut frequencies on several routes, with the number of Bangkok-Chiang Mai and Bangkok-Phuket flights down to 21 a week from 28, Bangkok-Hat Yai halved to seven a week, while those to Chiang Rai and Nakhon Si Thammarat are down from seven to two flights per week.

Mr Udom said he was considering the futures of 700 employees working for One-Two-Go in case of a shutdown, though he did not rule out retrenchment possibilities.

Options for the employees could include accepting severance pay, leave-without-pay arrangements, and enrolling in some training courses.

The closure of One-Two-Go, which started flying in December 2003, may not be for good, he said. "If the situation improved with fuel prices being lowered and the profitability outlook was better, we could be airborne again."

Mr Udom declined to detail the financial impact that the airline industry downturn had had on One-Two-Go, saying only, "We are financially sustainable."

But he insisted that the parent carrier, Orient Thai Airlines, would continue to operate, flying chartered services and scheduled flights to Hong Kong and Incheon near Seoul.
Earlier this year, Orient Thai branched out into freight service by creating the country's first dedicated cargo carrier, Orient Thai Cargo, deploying two used Boeing 747-200Fs, acquired from Japan Airlines.

bkkfly 16th July 2008 09:20

Update
 
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif'][/FONT]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']The crew centre informed us Udom has gone to China along with his daughters. Interestingly, several pursers and senior attendants were sent on an all expenses paid trip to Singapore. This was to avoid FAA investigators as initial investigations have revealed that OG crew were often rostered to fly OX and vice-versa. Most OG cabin crew are not certified to fly 747 and OX are not certified to fly MD's (or trained on safety equipment). (I the Phuket crash the surviving female attendant was OX not OG!!!) this has never come out.

For the record it's not true that OG has lost its AOC. It is still under consideration by the DCA. I have spoken with Khun Chaisuk at the flight standards bureau at the DCA who told me that it is under consideration and the decision will be released on Monday. However Thai DCA is totally corrupt and I have no doubt with money paid to the right people OG will continue to fly (should Udom want it to).
[/FONT]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']On the day of the Phuket crash, pilot Arief had already completed 5 or more sectors. He had commenced at 5:00am. He was also fasting as it was the month of Ramadan and had not eaten anything since before dawn. Obviously this too was a contributing factor that I don't believe has yet been investigated.

My friend who was cabin crew on the flight and survived told me that she was paid not to tell the DCA how many sectors she had completed that day as it was over the regulated limit. She too had commenced at 5:00am and completed 5 sectors and at the time of the crash she was asleep in the bulk head crew seat. She is now working in the crew centre as her injuries prevent her from ever flying again and Udom wants to keep her “contained”.
[/FONT]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']Further update: Several of OG’s MD’s have been parked away in HK.Is this to avoid examination? Crew on OX charter flight from HK to Phuket today called to say they had seen them parked along with the defunct HK airlines aircraft.[/FONT]
I hate to say this, but there is no way UDOM or OG/OX is going down. Udom has too many connections in Thailand and unfortunately Thailand is still too corrupt. Thai people working for the airline are too scared to speak out (piss the big guys off and you can just disappear here). Those who do speak out are the “farang” pilots who have already left back to the safety of their own countries and they are just branded as complainers. Face it, the reality is that OG/OX will fly until the next crash which only then will be Udom’s demise.


Xeque 16th July 2008 13:37

bkkfly
I have to take issue with you on one point.
In Islam under special circumstances if one's work might be affected, the Ramadan fast can be broken. You may make up the time by continuing the fast later.
When I lived and worked in Saudi Arabia, our drivers, those commuting between Al Khobar and Kuwait, were allowed water and food during their journey as long as the fast was 'made up' later.
No-one can be sure that this was a contributing factor in the Phuket crash.

bkkfly 16th July 2008 14:08

Xeque I take your point. You are right that no one can be sure fasting was a contributing factor but it also cannot be ruled out. Was Cpt. Arief fasting or not? I guess we will never know. What is known is that on the day he had already exceeded his hours.

On another note, isn't Udom so clever? now claiming the airline will be closed down but due to financial considerations. So far avoiding any mention of the AOC in the local press. Got to give it to the guy :D

bkkfly 16th July 2008 14:21

Xeque I take your point. You are right that no one can be sure fasting was a contributing factor but it also cannot be ruled out. Was Cpt. Arief fasting or not? I guess we will never know. What is known is that on the day he had already exceeded his hours.

On another note, isn't Udom so clever? now claiming the airline will be closed down but due to financial considerations. So far avoiding any mention of the AOC in the local press. Got to give it to the guy :D

InvestigateUdom 16th July 2008 14:37

Regarding Arief's state: whether a lack of food and water and medical issues contributed to his fatigue, the black box tells us Arief - by far the more skilled pilot - was uninvolved in the landing. Monti flew it alone until he too stopped flying the airplane 19 seconds before impact.

Regarding Udom's "cleverness": I think it's sad.

bkkfly 18th July 2008 12:26

Expect to hear some good news on Monday 21st. Word from the crew centre is that OG will close on Monday. Of course Udom wants to call it "temporary" so that he can avoid any termination payments. Instead he will say staff have been offered leave without pay/ training. However I think once closed it will be difficult for OG to start up again.

On another note:

OX is currently being chartered by a Chinese tour company for flights from H.K to Phuket. 3 of the F/A's rostered for this package are from OG and have no training at all for OX 747's. I just don't understand how this terribly dodgy operation can continue. How can the DCA be turning such a blind eye??? and these people belive in Karma? Just venting some anger.:ugh:

rolibkk 18th July 2008 17:19

Latest news from The Nation (Bangkok) - 19Jul08
 
Low-cost carrier One-Two-Go will suspend its operations from July 22 to September 15, making it the first airline victim of record oil prices.





Founder and CEO Udom Tatiprosongchai said the unrelenting rise in oil prices had forced the airline to shut down temporarily.

During this period there will be a reorganisation to prepare for a return to business.

"The company has been losing money for months, and we cannot continue like this," said Udom, adding that One-Two-Go would resume operations when the situation improved.

Two of its rival, Thai AirAsia and Nok Ai, are still in service but facing the same cost pressure.

Both have revised their business strategies and rescheduled some routes.

Udom said One Two Go had been operating based on actual costs while other players had different strategies. In a statement, One Two Go said high oil prices were hurting the global airline industry.

Airlines world-wide have cut 30 per cent of their flights and raised surcharges to stay in business.

One Two Go was the country's first low-cost airline, starting its service in December 2003 with a Bangkok-Chiang Mai flight.

It ran into trouble when one of its planes crashed in Phuket, killing 90 passengers. Rumours abounded that it could face regulatory problems due to its safety record.

Udom declined to comment on this issue.

Relatives of the victims in the Phuket crash have started a web-site, www.investigateudom.com, to campaign for an investigation into Udom's business conduct.

It was alleged that Udom had misled pilots into flying unsafe planes and paid bonuses for those who worked beyond the legal maximum of flying hours.
Chaisak Angkasuwan, director-general of the Civil Aviation Department, could not be reached for comment yesterday.

Bangkok's Independent Newspaper

India Four Two 18th July 2008 17:52


How can the DCA be turning such a blind eye???
bkkfly,

If that's the case, how about a phone call or an email to the CAD in Hong Kong?

Comments and Enquiries

Would they be interested?

SOPS 18th July 2008 17:59

so what was the 1 2 GO 747 parked at Dubai this morning? I know I did not make it up...I put my 777 next to it and then stood under it as I waited for the bus

rolibkk 18th July 2008 18:27

Protecting each other
 
Quite common here in Thailand. Udom knows too much about the happenings in thai aviation. If the DCA goes against him, he will uncover a lot of stuff that was kept secret over the last years which would affect the industry as a whole. That's why such agencies like the DCA usually go against the small fishs which have no influence or are too weak to react and fire back.

E.g. Chaisak Angkasuwan's son was made IT Manager at OX a couple of years back without having any clue about IT or the airline industry. One way of saying thank you to the director general for helping protect OX ... why do you think Chaisak Angkasuwan shuts up now? I mean he was the most outspoken 20 minutes after the crash already knowing that it was the wind and weather and nothing else.

The son later on moved to Nokair, but that's a different story.

Oh well ...

rolibkk 18th July 2008 18:45

OX 747 at DXB? Most probably trying to cash in as much as possible during the last week of ops. School Holidays in UAE I've been told and a lot of locals flying to Thailand (just try to book a seat on EK or TG ...). Guess Udom got some charter deal. He just needs to make sure that he gets is A/C out before 22nd .

bkkfly 18th July 2008 20:30

Update
 
SOPS, I think Udom is trying to get all of 1 2 Go MD's out of Thailand to avoid them being investigated. Several are now parked in HK too.

Latest from crew centre: Message was sent to all depts today that last of OG's flights will be on the 22nd. We have been told on the 23rd Udom himself will be addressing press conference at Amari Water Gate - Pratunam hotel. I will post more details as soon as I get them should anyone be interested in attending and making some noise.

We now have to ensure the operation does not get going again. A lot of cabin crew are heart broken but so are many families that lost loved ones and I know it is only a matter of time until another accident occurs if this operation continues.

RoliBKK is spot on. Chaisak is as filthy as Udom and equally corrupt. However he is scared of media attention and earlier this week when I spoke with him he was paranoid about being filmed.If anyone is inclined to stir him a little try requesting a media comment from him. He speaks good English. His direct number is +6622861956 mention you are from a TV station and he freaks out.

bkkfly 19th July 2008 04:29

Only 2 month suspension? time for action!
 
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']Thai Airline One Two Go now One To Stop[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']Bangkok Post 19/07/2008[/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif'](dpa) - Thailand's first no-frills airline, One-Two-Go, has suspended all operations for two months for "financial restructuring," media reports said Saturday. [/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']One-Two-Go, the country's first low-cost airline, started operations in December 2003 and is now the first to fall victim to escalating world oil prices, the airline's top executive said. [/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']"The company has been losing money for months, and we cannot continue like this," founder and chief executive Udom Tatiprosongchai told The Nation newspaper. [/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']On Friday, the airline announced the suspension of all operations from July 22 to September 15. It has 700 employees and eight MD 80 jets. [/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']A One-Two-Go plane crashed on landing during a heavy downpour on Phuket Island in October 2007, killing 90 people on board. [/FONT]
[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']Relatives of some of the victims have started a website, www.investigationudom.com, to campaign for an investigation into Udom's business conduct in managing the airline, claiming that he forced pilots to fly unsafe planes.[/FONT]

bkkfly 19th July 2008 19:55

update
 
The OX 747 currently parked at Phuket chartered by Chinese travel group has had to cancel departure 3 times now as engine number 3 keeps failing to start. PAX have boarded twice now and then been returned to Metropole Phuket after engine 3 failure! OX will again try to take off for HK tomorrow. I know one FA who is crewing on that flight who is OG crew with no training on 747 aircraft.

Why has the Thai press failied to report at all on the AOC revocation and continue to maintaining Udom's line that temp closure is just for a restructure? Surely there has to be a journo out there who can smell something, no?

Correction to my earlier post Udom's press conference will be at Amarin hotel Don Muang on 23rd.

InvestigateUdom 20th July 2008 04:25

London Times Sunday
 
Families blame lax safety for budget airline crash - Times Online


LAWYERS for the British and American families of victims of an air crash in Thailand are seeking £125m compensation in the US courts in a case that may shed a harsh light on cost-cutting and safety standards at some budget airlines.
The lawsuits follow the disaster on the holiday island of Phuket when an MD82 airliner operated by One-Two-Go, a Thai low-cost carrier, crashed on landing in heavy rain and wind on September 16 last year.
Eight Britons were among the 89 people who died. There were 41 survivors, some of them badly burnt after the plane slewed off the runway, hit an embankment and caught fire.
The captain, Arief Mulyadi, 56, from Indonesia, and his Thai co-pilot were killed on impact. Thai press reports say government investigators have reached an initial finding that pilot error was to blame.
Since the accident the airline has denied allegations by some of its former pilots that crews worked excessive hours and that maintenance standards were lax.
“We believe the air crash was completely avoidable and those responsible should be held to account,” said a statement from the parents of Alex Collins and Bethan Jones, a British couple who died.
“While we accept that nothing can bring Alex and Bethan and the other people who lost their lives back, we are keen to make sure we prevent this from happening again.”
Some British relatives of the victims have lent their names to an internet campaign by Bonnie Rind, an American whose brother died in the crash, calling for prosecutions in Thailand. Rind is also asking for an inquiry by the US National Transportation Safety Board.
She has obtained numerous documents, including what she says is a transcript of material from the flight recorders. Rind said she was confident that the chilling details of the transcript, which appear to show confusion on the flight deck, were accurate.
Flight OG269 from Bangkok was buffeted by heavy weather as it came in for landing. After a warning from the control tower of wind shear - a sudden, violent gust - the Thai co-pilot, who was flying the aircraft, opted to “go around” for a second approach.
However, according to the transcript provided by Rind, neither he nor Arief engaged the correct controls after retracting the wheels. As the MD82 continued to sink towards the runway, the co-pilot’s last words were, “You have control.” There was no response from Arief.
For 15 seconds the engines could be heard idling as the MD82 descended, then for four seconds they roared to full power as an attempt was apparently made to save the aircraft.
Two seconds before the crash a wind shear alarm went off. Then there was silence.
“It was clearly pilot error,” said Rind, a software engineer with a background in aviation. “There was no evidence of anything wrong with the plane.” She believes the captain was incompetent and was probably suffering from fatigue.
Arief had a history of freezing at the controls during crises and had been working excessive hours, according to a documentary by Australia’s Channel Nine television.
Crew rosters showed that at the time of the crash Arief had worked longer than the 110 hours a month allowed by Thai regulators. These rosters were handed to the authorities by the makers of the documentary. The programme interviewed François Wurst, a former pilot for One-Two-Go, who said he was flying with Arief on a charter for the United Nations in 2006 into Kabul to pick up Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, when the Indonesian “mentally froze” during rough weather on the approach.
Other former pilots gave hair-raising stories of shoddy maintenance and pressure to work excessive hours as the airline cut costs when tourism collapsed after the 2004 tsunami. They claimed there were constant faults with electronics, hydraulics and engines on the fleet of MD82s and Boeing 757s.
Udom Tantiprasongchai, the founder of One-Two-Go, has firmly denied the allegations.
James Healy-Pratt of Stew-arts Law, a London firm acting for six Britons, said: “The families and victims are taking action in the US courts to force One-Two-Go to prove that they are not a low-cost, low-safety airline.”
The American courts are involved because the Thai airline has business connections in the United States and the plane was made by McDonnell Doug-las, later bought by Boeing. The MD82 that crashed was first delivered to American Airlines in December 1983.
US lawyers intend to name Boeing in the lawsuits, along with One-Two-Go, its parent company Orient Thai Airlines and Grandmax Group, a company connected to them which leased the doomed aircraft.
The action will be closely watched in the London aviation insurance market because One-Two-Go and Orient Thai are insured by syndicates at Lloyd’s, plus other insurers.
Udom said the company had paid medical expenses and other costs for survivors and had settled claims in 26 cases.
“We, with our insurers, are trying to resolve the remaining claims as quickly and fairly as possible,” he added.
Yesterday Thai media reports said One-Two-Go is to cease flying “temporarily” due to cost pressures caused by oil prices and market conditions.
See www.InvestigateUdom.com Proof and Evidence for details.

InvestigateUdom 21st July 2008 08:07

Did Udom say it was about fuel?
 
Bangkok Post | General news | Pilot error blamed for crash

ONE-TWO-GO AIRLINES

Pilot error blamed for crash AMORNRAT MAHITTHIROOK
Pilot error caused the fatal crash in Phuket last year and was the reason behind the grounding of One-Two-Go airlines, Chaisak Angsuwan, the director-general of the Civil Aviation Department, said yesterday.
His statement contradicted one from the budget airline on Friday, which cited problems including rising oil prices and strong competition as the need to temporarily cease operations and ground all eight of its MD 80 series planes.

Mr Chaisak said pilot error while trying to land at Phuket international airport on Sept 16 last year prompted the department to ban the entire MD fleet from service.

Investigations found the plane and maintenance were up to standard, but the way the pilots worked needed to improve to meet international requirements, he said.

The decision to ground One-Two-Go was based mainly on the inquiry by the National Transport Safety Board of the United States and the assessment of the department. The 56-day suspension will start tomorrow.

The temporary ban will only apply to the MD 80 aircraft. All 747 jets flying for Orient Thai airlines, which also belong to Udom Tantiprasongchai, the owner of One-Two-Go, are allowed to keep operating, but improvements are expected within 30 days, Mr Chaisak said. He refused to go into detail.

On Sept 16 last year a One-Two-Go MD-82 crashed in strong winds and heavy rain while trying to land at Phuket. The accident left 89 people dead and 41 injured. Transport Minister Santi Promphat said he was briefed on the report by the department chief on July 11.

The decision to suspend the budget airline will be announced at a press conference today.

Mr Udom said he accepted the results of the investigation, which pointed out faults by the pilots, and promised to make improvements.

A source at the department said the agency had informed One-Two-Go about the need to improve its performance, but nothing was improved.

The agency planned to ground both One-Two-Go and Orient Thai, but later decided to let Orient Thai continue operating. The source said the agency was not satisfied with the no-frills airline after finding that checks by the pilots were not being carried out properly.

Finn47 21st July 2008 10:53

Latest "breaking news" says, the AOC of One-Two-Go as well as the AOC of Orient Thai have both been suspended for 30 days due to poor safety, and criminal charges are to follow.

Bangkok Post Breaking News

rolibkk 21st July 2008 12:13

Predict the outcome?
 
30 days grounding, then all back to normal. Nothing will be done. Maybe Udom is going to play some golf and Chaisak drives around his new E-Class Benz he did get from an undisclosed donor working for a well-known airline.
It states that aircraft maintenance was up to standard - of course does it say that, coz otherwise the DCA would have to investigate itself and it also says that they will file criminal charges ... most probably against the employees and foreign pilots that leaked all the information to the foreign press.
They keep Orient Thai flying as Udom needs to use that money to pay for Chaisak's new car ....

InvestigateUdom 21st July 2008 12:22

Keep up the pressure
 
I have to agree with rolibkk that we need to keep the pressure up.

afvap 21st July 2008 12:32

i agree with you

keep on doing pressure.
I ask anyone who wants to help us to contact "investigateudom" or me.

Thailand: world is now hearing and looking at you!

MrXrules 22nd July 2008 04:39

Phuket Air crews are being forced with this same behavior and acceptance of operating in this not so legal enviroment.
Thai DCA has has done audits and never found any problems with the duty time violations even when a incident was happening and in progress while on the property in KSA.
Blind ones these DCA types.

InvestigateUdom 22nd July 2008 20:41

Questions about stories, charges and groundings...
 
Updates from Thailand make it clear deals are being made as the duration of the AOC revocation and affected parties changes by the hour. We've posted a list of questions we think the press should be asking.
(See right column, July 22, 2008)

afvap 24th July 2008 10:49

lepetitjournal.com - AVIATION - One-Two-Go suspendue et peut-être poursuivie

InvestigateUdom 25th July 2008 17:04

Perhaps this is why Orient Thai continues to fly
 
Kajit Habanananda is a managing director of Orient Thai and One-Two-Go.
While Udom may be out of favor with the new head of the DCA (notice Vituchai is gone), Mr. Kajit, a "former adviser to the deputy minister of transport" (according to the Chiangmai-mail), seems to be in favor.

To learn more about Mr. Kajit and his political connections, read this:Past International President Kajit "KJ" Habanananda


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