Ukraine and associated airspace
 

Was 44m from landing when the cruise and ballistic missiles started to strike. Understandable has diverted. Hope all onboard safe, we live in crazy times!
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a193d7275.jpeg

Ukraine is under attack
 

It seems that Ukraine is under military attack in several parts of the country. For example: Explosions can be heard in Kiev.

MARS Attacks Oops. Correction, Russia Atatcks
 

Putin's forces just attacked Ukraine in a borad offensive.

My company just announced the following company actions

1. No operation is permitted in or over Russian territory until no earlier than 24 FEB 2032.
2. No Russian person, or passport holder shall be carried on a company aircraft until 24 FEB 2032.
3. No Russian official or diplomat may be carried on a MEDEVAC anywhere in the world until 24 FEB 2052.

Suffice it to say, this may not be an earthquake to the Kremlin, or Putin or his lapdog Trump and Pompeo, but the next item is of interest

The company shall not assist or accept any operation or tasking or any commercial contact with any country that does not cease commercial activities with Russian due to their naked and illegal aggression of a neighboring country. Such ban on 3rd party countries shall remain in force until 24 FEB 2052.

I think my boss is a bit miffed with the evil empire.

Also, the ban includes BELARUS, BELARUS passport holders, and any country dealing with BELARUS.


It may be an army of 1, but there are a lot of 1's out there.

According to US Senator Marco Rubio Russian Airborne troops are in control of Kiev Airport.

But this shows that people will do more that our governments will do.

Well, I would expect a total ban on any Russian aircraft to enter any Western airspace. In my opinion, it would be also wise to revoke any visas for Russian citizens to enter Western countries. Undoubtedly this is a war against all Western values.

Completely agree with you guys.
Dont know why the EU didnt come up with this yet. Cancellation of all issued Schengen Visa to Russians, Cancellation of all bought EU Passports and give the ****ers 3-4 days to leave the EU to go home to their so beloved country.
I just remaind myself how badly they laughed at us during the annection of Crinmea. I had a flight to Strassbourg with 3 guys from the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. On the way to Strassbourg they where silent and stressed and on the way back they had tons of Vodga and kind of peed and **** on our European Management.
As long as we have anatomic wonders (they can stand upright without having a spine) as politicians this will continue to go on.
Unfortunately none of us can really do anything. Therefore we will be entiteld to watch and listen.
UKRAINE KEEP YOUR HEAD UP

fdr Which company? I think I like to apply for a job. Great decision if this is true. Best would be if Vista Jet would announce something like this.

Flight Radar appears to have been switched off.

Time to ban any and all RA/ RF owned or registered aircraft flights and over flights. Time to pull the insurance of all the flag of convenience leased fleet aircraft used by Russian carriers.
IMHO

They inform: "We are still working hard on increasing the capacity, but the very big international interest generate 10-20 times higher traffic than normally, which is hard to handle." The last screen I saw: Ukrainian airspace totally empty. I would be happy to see no Russian aircraft over Europe, but that's not the case. Swift decisions, please!

Flight Radar was working up till 30 minutes ago - aseu01 says , likely they are having trouble with interest levels.

Ukraine airspace was empty, as eu01 said, with Global Hawks running observation lines from various places nearby, also Rivet Joint a/c over friendly territory presumably observing and analysing. I hope they stay safe.

It is as others have said, clearly time to restrict all 'previously normal' Russian international activities to make the strongest possible point, No time to dither, take action. Sadly, the UK will almost certainly dither. bluster and delay. 'Action this day' - in the words of a previous, real, leader is what is needed .

Ten years?

The App seems to be working (albeit slowly), I do wonder if there is a blackout/disruption to coverage over B & U due to land based transceivers not working.

Plenty of expensive military stuff from NATO up at the moment: I'm seeing: RQ-4D, E-8C, F-16CM amongst others

Keep safe everyone

Safety Bulletin, IFALPA
 

IFALPA Safety Bulletin - with attachment from ICAO European and North Atlantic Regional Office. Links also to EASA bulletin and (earlier) press release from IFALPA.

22sab05-closure-of-airspace-in-moldova-ukraine-and-part-of-rostov-fir-of-the-russian-federation.pdf (ifalpa.org)


Operations in Flight Information Regions: FIR LVIV (UKLV), FIR KYIV (UKBV), UIR KYIV (UKBU), FIR DNIPROPETROVSK (UKDV), FIR SIMFEROPOL (UKFV), FIR ODESA (UKOV), FIR CHISINAU (LUUU), FIR MOSCOW (UUWW), ROSTOV-NA-DONU (URRV) and FIR MINSK (UMMV) | EASA (europa.eu)


22prl01-int-pilot-orgs-on-tensions-in-eastern-europe.pdf (ifalpa.org)

I see BAW9 is over Russia,south of Moscow...why...?
UK Govmnt should ask Bermuda to withdraw all Russian operated aircraft on VP/VQ- registrations immediately..

I think that's the point; some might think it a little conciliatory.

Be careful what you wish for, in today's global economy sanctions are double edge swords, Lot of businesses in the West are going to go broke as a result . Russia is not North Korea.

Probably true, but then again, what is the price of defending freedom?

All Aeroflot flights to the United Kingdom have been canceled for now. I'm not a fan of Boris Johnson, but his decision was right and well timed, the Russian carrier is banned there. Now... what about the rest of the world? Nobody wants to take any decisive steps in this regard?

I also noticed that.

There are 50+ flights on route from Moscow to Sochi.

And, in a predictable response, Russia has banned UK aircraft from its airspace, which will have a significant effect on a number of routes between the UK and the Far East.

Indeed, what about the rest of the world. There's currently an Aeroflot flight from Moscow to Nice (SU2470).

True, every sword has two edges, and that's why the UK must not be left alone, the world's answer should be uniform, banning the aggressor.

Let's not forget that Putin's henchmen shot down a civil airliner over Donbas, the Malaysian B777-200, MI-17. The missile was supplied by Russia, and the operation was supported by Russians. Why any airline would consider it reasonable to overfly Russia is lost upon me. Consider it akin to flying overhead North Korea. Belarus also recently conducted state-sponsored piracy, which is in fact an act of war, and the rest of NATO just sat back and went tut tut.

Today, a ballistic conventional warhead missile was launched against Ukraine, from Belarus, so the word of Alexi Grigoryevich Lukashenko has the same value as Putin. "we are withdrawing..." yeah, right comrade.

Meanwhile, Poland and Czechia are going to join the UK in banning Russian airlines from using their airspace.

Let’s keep this thread on topic with discussion of the airspace and events in the Ukraine, please.

Politics etc belong here where a number of recent posts have been moved 🙊👍

Russia bans British airlines from its airspace
 

It is still noticeable that not all Eu Countries have banned Russian aircraft from their airspace,ie Estonia,Latvia Lithuania,Poland Germany.Kalingrad airspace should be `blockaded as well....Seems the EU speaks with `forked tongue`....

ICAO Council Condemnation - Press Release from ICAO
 

MONTRÉAL, 25 February 2022 – The 36 States composing the ICAO Council discussed today the situation unfolding in Ukraine, during a scheduled meeting of the ICAO Governing Body’s 225th Session.

A representative of Ukraine also participated in the Council meeting on the basis of the State’s stake in the situation.

The topic was considered by the Council on the basis of an oral statement delivered by the President of the Council, Salvatore Sciacchitano, together with a presentation from ICAO Secretary General, Juan Carlos Salazar, which updated Representatives on the operational aviation context.

Council States condemned the violation of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of a United Nations Member State, including its airspace, as being inconsistent with the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and Article 1 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation (Chicago Convention).

The Council also expressed grave concerns on the latest developments in Ukraine, and solidarity with its people, in direct alignment with the sentiments expressed by the United Nations Secretary General in his statements to the UN General Assembly on 23 and 24 February 2022. States representatives also recalled the preamble to the Convention on International Civil Aviation (Chicago Convention), which identifies the need to avoid friction and instead promote cooperation and friendship among nations and peoples, on which the peace of the world depends.

The Council further underscored the paramount importance of preserving the safety and security of international civil aviation and the related obligations of Member States, and in this context, urged the Russian Federation to cease its unlawful activities to ensure the safety and security of civil aviation in all affected areas, and to respect its obligations under the Chicago Convention as well as other relevant international air law treaties. It called upon all concerned parties to seek to resolve the crisis through peaceful dialogue and diplomatic channels.

The Council also recalled with deep sorrow the human suffering that was caused as a result of the downing of flight MH17 in the east of Ukraine on 17 July 2014, and underlined that such a tragedy should never happen again.

In the same context the Council reconfirmed its support to the “Safer Skies” initiative led by Canada relating to improving international efforts to safeguard civilian flight operations over or in the vicinity of conflict zones.

The Council requested the Secretariat to continue to monitor the situation in Ukraine and provide support to the States involved.

Why at this particular time, is Qantas and Lufthansa and Air France still.flying through Russian airspace?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f003116db2.png

Because they aren’t British?

Because they (& their Govts) lack a backbone.

for the AF and LH they simply are coming back home.. For the QF it is more arguable., What they do in the next days will be the interesting part to watch, as the old polar route is controlled by the 3 Siberian FIRS ( Murmansk, Krasnoyarsk and Magadan) but being international airspace delegated by ICAO in theory the Russians cannot refuse its use.. in theory that is .

AFL flight is about to enter French airspace having overflown Germany, The Netherlands and Belgium!

I read that Poland closed their airspace to Russian flights.

UK, Poland, Czechia, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Shame on Benelux, France and Germany.

Romania closed its airspace to Russian flights as well. And, as expected, Russia reciprocated.