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andrasz 26th Feb 2022 19:38

LH718 MUC ICN turned around a little north of Perm and is returning to MUC.
The only other EU registered passenger flights I can see over Russia are five AY planes and AF into NRT, soon to leave Russian airspace.

Max Tow 26th Feb 2022 21:39

Odd that U.S. and Canada are still allowing Russian airlines to overfly en route to Caribbean eg AZV787 currently over Quebec en route LED to VRA with happy holidaymakers.

nnc0 26th Feb 2022 23:37


Originally Posted by Max Tow (Post 11191172)
Odd that U.S. and Canada are still allowing Russian airlines to overfly en route to Caribbean eg AZV787 currently over Quebec en route LED to VRA with happy holidaymakers.

Waiting for their own carriers to get some of their Long Haul routes sorted before closing their airspace to the Russians?

Max Tow 27th Feb 2022 00:02


Originally Posted by nnc0 (Post 11191233)
Waiting for their own carriers to get some of their Long Haul routes sorted before closing their airspace to the Russians?

Hasn't that already happened, at least with DL & AA?

albatross 27th Feb 2022 00:10


Originally Posted by Max Tow (Post 11191172)
Odd that U.S. and Canada are still allowing Russian airlines to overfly en route to Caribbean eg AZV787 currently over Quebec en route LED to VRA with happy holidaymakers.

They, the EU, Nato Countries, Japan, Australia and other asian countries and other countries worldwide should close Airspace, airports. Closing all ports to Russian and their allies Merchant Ships could be effective.

Time to stand up to the demented school bully.


On Track 27th Feb 2022 04:25

SEATO? That disappeared a long time ago.

A319 27th Feb 2022 08:36

Denmark is closing down…

paperHanger 27th Feb 2022 08:58


Originally Posted by A319 (Post 11191371)
Denmark is closing down…

This mornings Aeroflot flight into Copenhagen is still en route.

https://www.flightradar24.com/AFL2658/2af52c2a

Meanwhile, despite Germany's apparent closing of airspace to Russia .. the Aeroflot Moscow to Berlin service is running ...

https://www.flightradar24.com/AFL2568/2af530cf

And cargo still running from DE to Moscow ..

https://www.flightradar24.com/ABW682/2af51dbb

Less Hair 27th Feb 2022 09:33

Germany wil close its airspace for russian a/c today at 3 PM local.

Max Tow 27th Feb 2022 10:15

Anyone know why Biden still won't join in the airspace ban?

Clipper7 27th Feb 2022 10:16

Iceland closes its airspace to Russian a/c
 
… and bans Russian citizens from entering the country.

Atlantic Explorer 27th Feb 2022 10:43

Very soon, Russia is going to have a lot of aircraft sat on the ground with nowhere to go!

Big Pistons Forever 27th Feb 2022 14:00

Canada has also just announced an airspace ban for Russian aircraft

nivsy 27th Feb 2022 14:06


Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer (Post 11191429)
Very soon, Russia is going to have a lot of aircraft sat on the ground with nowhere to go!

To be fair, we have all experienced that over the past two years.

voyageur9 27th Feb 2022 14:09

Aeroflot 158 is currently overflying Canada

But more interestingly, Aeroflot 124 a SVO-JFK B777 is currently over Norway and its flightplan crosses Canada enroute to JFK.

So Ottawa's claim of "with immediate effect" is about to be tested.


Beamr 27th Feb 2022 14:48

Ok, so what happens if Aeroflot pushes onwards and declares emergency at around newfoundland? Nearest suitable vectored, AC confiscated and pax...?

ex-EGLL 27th Feb 2022 15:09


Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever (Post 11191568)
Canada has also just announced an airspace ban for Russian aircraft

Would that include the Ocean, or is that "ICAO protected"?

albatross 27th Feb 2022 15:53


Originally Posted by On Track (Post 11191295)
SEATO? That disappeared a long time ago.

My bad, typing too fast and thinking too slow. Post edited.

voyageur9 27th Feb 2022 16:02


Originally Posted by voyageur9 (Post 11191577)
Aeroflot 124 a SVO-JFK B777 ... flightplan crosses Canada enroute to JFK.

So Ottawa's claim of "with immediate effect" is about to be tested.

124 (currently beyond radar range) seems to be threading the strait between Iceland and Greenland. If so, I wonder if it has sufficient fuel to stay off the Newfoundland and Nova Scotia coasts and get to JFK via an oceanic course.

Richard Taylor 27th Feb 2022 16:36

FR24 says AFL124 is diverting, not yet confirmed where.
Edit: now says back to SVO.


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