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Persian Gulf
Any airlines been diverting the area because of the heighten rhetoric between US and Iran?
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There is a NOTAM from the US : NOTAM KICZ A0015/19, mentioning danger of mis-identification .. there was a 787 pretty close to the missile track when the Global Hawk was shot down. The airspace around is quite complicated , and the Qatari blockade does not help .
ATC is not in a position to help either as this is a purely military/ political issue. The strait of Hormuz is not really a place to overfly in at the moment. |
Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
(Post 10498936)
There is a NOTAM from the US : NOTAM KICZ A0015/19, mentioning danger of mis-identification .... .
290 people died when the USA mistakenly shot down Iran Air 655. |
Not taking sides, but just something to be aware of. Most Arabs prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf. I once witnessed a fight over this at close quarters.
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
(Post 10499031)
Not taking sides, but just something to be aware of. Most Arabs prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf. I once witnessed a fight over this at close quarters.
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I was a pax southbound out of a Gulf airport early this week and copped a 2 hour "slot" delay at a very quiet time of the night.
Maybe there is a problem? Wunwing |
Originally Posted by Wunwing
(Post 10499104)
I was a pax southbound out of a Gulf airport early this week and copped a 2 hour "slot" delay at a very quiet time of the night.
Maybe there is a problem? Wunwing |
More likely flow control through Muscat’s airspace as most operators are still avoiding Karachi FIR. |
Notam A0019/19 was issued at 0148 UTC, June 21st All US operators are prohibited from entering the Tehran FIR in the area above the Persian Gulf and Gulf of Oman. |
Traffic over the strait seems pretty normal for a friday morning (screengrab from FR24 taken at 06:20Z)
http://i66.tinypic.com/2a9og9k.png |
Sadly for QR, all their ops to destinations east (except PEK, HND and ICN) have no choice but to overfly the Strait of Hormuz. If hostilities break out there, it could mean tough times ahead for the Qatari Flag Carrier too; there are no other economically viable routes for them to use to get to those places.
Their only hope would be for a snappy resolution to the blockade. |
One hopes they are all diligently monitoring military guard, as requested a short while ago by USN. Stay safe David |
Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur
(Post 10499196)
One hopes they are all diligently monitoring military guard, as requested a short while ago by USN. Stay safe David Maybe it should be the responsibility of armed forces to not "misidentify" aircraft in areas with high civilian traffic? |
I admit I don’t know I wasn’t there.i believe the Airbus crew were actually monitoring closely ‘civil guard’ Their aircraft was not equipped to monitor military guard. As I understood the situation. Be lucky David |
Originally Posted by CaptainProp
(Post 10499169)
Notam A0019/19 was issued at 0148 UTC, June 21st All US operators are prohibited from entering the Tehran FIR in the area above the Persian Gulf and Gulf of Oman. Precedent would suggest that many other non-US operators will also observe the restriction, even though not bound by it. Other than Qatar and Gulf Air, there's not much evidence of other carriers currently transitting the Tehran FIR. |
Other than Qatar and Gulf Air, there's not much evidence of other carriers currently transitting the Tehran FIR. |
Just heard on the news that Qantas are avoiding the area. |
Originally Posted by compressor stall
(Post 10499301)
huh? Right now as at 0856Z well there's Bangladesh, Indian, Singapore, Etihad, Kuwait, Malaysia, Turkish, Aeroflot, Eurowings...
Though there's certainly a bunch of traffic skirting the southern edge of OIIX, including several of the carriers you mention. |
Originally Posted by On Track
(Post 10499329)
Just heard on the news that Qantas are avoiding the area. |
Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur
(Post 10499223)
I admit I don’t know I wasn’t there.i believe the Airbus crew were actually monitoring closely ‘civil guard’ Their aircraft was not equipped to monitor military guard. As I understood the situation. Be lucky David |
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