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There is a NOTAM from the US : NOTAM KICZ A0015/19, mentioning danger of mis-identification .. there was a 787 pretty close to the missile track when the Global Hawk was shot down. The airspace around is quite complicated , and the Qatari blockade does not help .
ATC is not in a position to help either as this is a purely military/ political issue. The strait of Hormuz is not really a place to overfly in at the moment.
ATC is not in a position to help either as this is a purely military/ political issue. The strait of Hormuz is not really a place to overfly in at the moment.
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Not taking sides, but just something to be aware of. Most Arabs prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf. I once witnessed a fight over this at close quarters.
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one will get called in for a serious tea and bikkies session for referring to it as the "Persian" gulf over a PA....I called it "the Gulf"...raised no hackles with either our Arabic or Persian guests
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More likely flow control through Muscat’s airspace as most operators are still avoiding Karachi FIR.
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Sadly for QR, all their ops to destinations east (except PEK, HND and ICN) have no choice but to overfly the Strait of Hormuz. If hostilities break out there, it could mean tough times ahead for the Qatari Flag Carrier too; there are no other economically viable routes for them to use to get to those places.
Their only hope would be for a snappy resolution to the blockade.
Their only hope would be for a snappy resolution to the blockade.
Maybe it should be the responsibility of armed forces to not "misidentify" aircraft in areas with high civilian traffic?
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I admit I don’t know I wasn’t there.i believe the Airbus crew were actually monitoring closely ‘civil guard’ Their aircraft was not equipped to monitor military guard.
As I understood the situation.
Be lucky
David
As I understood the situation.
Be lucky
David
Precedent would suggest that many other non-US operators will also observe the restriction, even though not bound by it.
Other than Qatar and Gulf Air, there's not much evidence of other carriers currently transitting the Tehran FIR.
Other than Qatar and Gulf Air, there's not much evidence of other carriers currently transitting the Tehran FIR.

Though there's certainly a bunch of traffic skirting the southern edge of OIIX, including several of the carriers you mention.

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About 50 years or so ago I was taught that 121.5 being a half frequency of 243 was a design feature in the hopes that an emergency transmission harmonic would break through. These days, with filters etc. that might not happen.