Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10499347)
Well if there was, it all seems to have disappeared again. :O.
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
(Post 10499031)
Not taking sides, but just something to be aware of. Most Arabs prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf. I once witnessed a fight over this at close quarters.
Now in the days of the British Empire it was the Persian Gulf, not because it belonged to Persia but because it made geographical sense. Maybe after Brexit these things will get straightened out. (Note that this is tongue in cheek please Boris) |
Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 10499391)
Might make their PER - LHR 787 non-stop a bit tricky
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Originally Posted by compressor stall
(Post 10499431)
Hit refresh :) A bunch of Air India, KLM, Turkish, Thai, BA, Azerbaijan and finally a Swiss approaching now.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1645aad0c0.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5dae11b815.jpg |
I was looking at BA256 that was then over Iran - currently over the Black Sea. .
Swiss 181 just leaving to the NW and Singapore 326 near Tehran atm. |
Originally Posted by compressor stall
(Post 10499592)
I was looking at BA256 that was then over Iran - currently over the Black Sea. .
Swiss 181 just leaving to the NW and Singapore 326 near Tehran atm. |
US-Iran tensions: UAE-based airlines Emirates, Fly Dubai, Etihad and Air Arabia reroute flights EFriday, June 21, 2019US-Iran tensions: UAE-based airlines Emirates, Fly Dubai, Etihad and Air Arabia reroute flights https://gulfnews.com/uae/us-iran-ten....1561112146194 |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10499608)
All of those flights overflew mainland Iran and not the restricted/NOTAM'd area.
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Ah, hence the confusion. Here's the NOTAM:
ALL FLIGHT OPERATIONS IN THE OVERWATER AREA OF THE TEHRAN FLIGHT INFORMATION REGION (FIR) (OIIX) ABOVE THE PERSIAN GULF AND GULF OF OMAN ONLY ARE PROHIBITED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE DUE TO HEIGHTENED MILITARY ACTIVITIES AND INCREASED POLITICAL TENSIONS IN THE REGION, WHICH PRESENT AN INADVERTENT RISK TO U.S. CIVIL AVIATION OPERATIONS AND POTENTIAL FOR MISCALCULATION OR MIS-IDENTIFICATION. |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 10499205)
That wouldn't do much good. Iranair 655 was monitoring guard, weren't they?
Maybe it should be the responsibility of armed forces to not "misidentify" aircraft in areas with high civilian traffic? https://web.archive.org/web/20060527...02/20note.html |
Does Iran earn fees when airlines fly over their territory?
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Originally Posted by OldnGrounded
(Post 10499778)
Indeed. From the Wayback Machine, some illuminating reading about the Vincennes and the lead-up to the Iranair 655 shoot-down:
Do US drones identify themselves via transponder? Presumably the US drone didn't respond to any messages to veer away from Iranian air space?? /s :) |
Originally Posted by bhunt95
(Post 10500083)
Does Iran earn fees when airlines fly over their territory?
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As of 0724z major carriers over Iranian airspace include KLM, Lufthansa, Singapore, Finnair, Etihad and Qatar. It looks like most of them are avoiding the Gulf/Strait of Hormuz coastline region of the country, except for Qatar, probably due fuel constraints. |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 10500183)
As of 0724z major carriers over Iranian airspace include KLM, Lufthansa, Singapore, Finnair, Etihad and Qatar. It looks like most of them are avoiding the Gulf/Strait of Hormuz coastline region of the country, except for Qatar, probably due fuel constraints.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10500195)
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Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 10500203)
They may just be avoiding the specific area around the Strait of Hormuz, but aircraft from the aforementioned carriers at the moment are in the Tehran FIR over Iranian territory.
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