Man, that’s an insanely naïve viewpoint. In general, HR bring the candidates to interview. And no one really knows how hard up some of these companies really are. There is tremendous pressure to get meat into seats these days at various companies, IMO.

I wonder how many competent 73NG captains were rejected by Jet2 HR department due to the Compass Test farce?

I know of at least several ex-XL candidates who were OK'd by pilot interviewers but jettisoned by this totally unsuitable selection tool.

And yes, I was one and following the shabby treatment of a colleague who did get employed by them I'm glad the fickle finger of fate moved me in another direction!

I can. I can do it from experience and I can validate the current hiring protocol and procedure. Whether through personal experience, or colleagues. This is a known factor at atlas and the teamsters union has addressed the hiring issue repeatedly. Now there’s a hole in the swamp and three dead aviators. I don’t believe in coincidences. Someone should answer for Their decisions. Oh wait, this is corporate America. No one is responsible, but all the peons are accountable.

its called a PRIA check. It stands for Pilots Records Inprovement Act. Several red flags exist on someone’s check that would have traditionally disqualified them from being hired, were it not for HR intervention or decisions. Other red flags related to the behavior and attitude of the individual in training are there. To be even more specific, red flags exist during stall recovery training with a certain individual. Furthermore, a certain individual may have mistaken the incident to be a stall and applied full nose down elevator. Red flags abound!!!

had a history of full forward input on stall recovery. This was mistaken as a stall they think.

HR brings AND selects candidates. At a lot of airlines, the pilot panels are of limited input or consequence in the hiring procedure. Being “hard up” and needing “meat in the seat” are not a valid excuse for hiring and keeping unsuitable candidates. This is especially true as lives are literally at stake. This is why HR pilot selection needs to stop.

First guess was incorrectly presumed to be a Stall, followed by bizarre recovery. Tragic, incredibly sad. It is all about the training. Assembly line training using FO’s with only a few individuals actually capable of insightful training is now industry standard.

Any commentary segueing into talk of ethnicity or slamming of HR is precisely the issue with all that is wrong with the industry. Legacy carriers try to give every applicant a shot. They understand that bias is real. They have fairly balanced diverse workforce’s for decades. If reputation is true, Atlas has not until recently. On the street they have long been known as white man’s world. Expat’s tell tales of racism, sexism always involving specific CP & DO. Competent minority pilots want nothing to do with the place.

Sounds like HR had to step in when incidents of bias, assaults, bigotry got out of hand.
That is logical enough conclusion. Also the Union clearly has a role in identifying bias issues. They should just get rid of the bad apples in top management that tolerate this conduct and fix the training.
If this FO had a history of misidentifying stalls, training failed him badly.
This certainly wouldnt be the first time on the cheap training would be at fault.

Agreed. But details will come out in report re “decaying airspeed.” If TOGA activated - all bets are off.
This is not a Cessna.
Human factors - an FO that didnt let go of the stick. Bad.

You guys apparently know something about the ethnic background of the FO...why is it relevant? Where do you guys get this info? Is the HR dept applying affirmative action? Why doesn’t the ntsb publish something 35+ days after the accident? Is the fbi involved? Is that the reason?

Does the rumor mill indicate that the FO was the PF?