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skidbuggy 9th Feb 2019 12:14

787 bounce
 

jimjim1 9th Feb 2019 12:25

Is that a boing 787?

Jet Jockey A4 9th Feb 2019 12:28

You mean this one...

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-47177...athrow-airport

DaveReidUK 9th Feb 2019 12:29

Assuming the invisible link is a reference to the BA B788 at LHR yesterday, try Spectators Balcony here:

PPRuNe: Anyone know this pilot? Buy him a pint!

jimjim1 9th Feb 2019 12:53


Originally Posted by skidbuggy (Post 10385004)

Didn't think to check for invisible link.

Sailvi767 9th Feb 2019 12:55

It looked like a well handled go around and was appropriate given the conditions.

jurassicjockey 9th Feb 2019 12:59

Looks like full elevator input as the nose dropped. That was some ugly shear.

Jet Jockey A4 9th Feb 2019 13:03


Originally Posted by jurassicjockey (Post 10385045)
Looks like full elevator input as the nose dropped. That was some ugly shear.

Yes I noticed that too in the picture from the BBC link... Personally I think they did a great job recuperating from the event and the go-around was the right decision.

Capn Bloggs 9th Feb 2019 13:34

That looks a bit crazy. Why would windshear suddenly pitch the nose down so abruptly? Fair enough the @rse drops out of it if you lose speed, but that was a violent pitch down. That was not the secondary effect of controls lowering the nose because the speed has reduced. Something fishy somewhere. Reminds me a bit of that Prune 787 (IIRC) video of weird nose down pitches on short final. Brother of MACS??

https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/...?highlight=787

jurassicjockey 9th Feb 2019 13:36


Originally Posted by Jet Jockey A4 (Post 10385049)
Yes I noticed that too in the picture from the BBC link... Personally I think they did a great job recuperating from the event and the go-around was the right decision.

Reminds me of flying into St. John's on a nice day

CHfour 9th Feb 2019 14:26


Originally Posted by jurassicjockey (Post 10385045)
Looks like full elevator input as the nose dropped. That was some ugly shear.

True but there was a large down elevator input just before the nose pitched down.

The Ancient Geek 9th Feb 2019 14:46

Looks to me like he should have gone around rather earlier rather than try to save an approach that had clearly gone wrong.
But he was there and I was not so what do I know.........

Carbon Bootprint 9th Feb 2019 14:50


Originally Posted by jimjim1 (Post 10385037)
Didn't think to check for invisible link.

No one ever does. Very clever on the part of the OP. :O

Clearly, they should have should have tootled around the coast a bit before diverting to MAN. :}

Hotel Tango 9th Feb 2019 14:55


Looks to me like he should have gone around rather earlier rather than try to save an approach that had clearly gone wrong.
Looked quite the opposite to me! It only went "wrong" in the last seconds and they immediately took the correct action which was well executed.

jurassicjockey 9th Feb 2019 15:09


Originally Posted by CHfour (Post 10385105)
True but there was a large down elevator input just before the nose pitched down.

I think that you're looking at the flaperons. The elevator is visually blocked by the wing except for when it goes up. There is a large amount of flaperon movement just before the * hits the wall

Locked door 9th Feb 2019 15:16

As per the previous poster, the elevator is completely obscured until the pitch up input. It looks like a really nasty shear late on with an excellent catch and well flown windshear go around, hence the gear staying down.

Nice job, stay safe out there.

Akrapovic 9th Feb 2019 16:56

Reminds me of an incident easyJet had with an Airbus going in to Luton. FO under training for the left hand seat had a brain melt and stuffed the nose forward at low level. Not saying this is the case, but can’t be ruled out....

wiggy 9th Feb 2019 17:02

Jeepers....I thought the NFL season finished last weekend and in any event it isn’t Monday for a couple of days.....

:oh:

Global Aviator 9th Feb 2019 17:20

Approach in gusty conditions, wind does weird things!

****e got real very low level...

Go around, perfectly executed!

BluSdUp 9th Feb 2019 17:31

Windshear?
Or gust? Big difference!
Does anyone have the Metar and the Tower wind when cleared to land. And any " wind check"?


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