MAS A330 BNE leaves pitot covers on
The flight returned to Brisbane airport an hour after being airborne due to a technical fault.
It had an emergency landing ... loss of air speed ... only to find out covers still on over the pitot tubes. One has to question what sort of walk around did the first officer do? It's a basic step from the days of flying school. (I have a pic of the covered pitot tubes but can't post as I'm new.) |
MAS A330 BNE leaves pilot covers on
An MAS A330 took off from BNE with the pitot covers on. Circled for a while then landed fast damaging nose gear. How does this happen- too many questions.
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Question remains how did they get airborne in the first place? If all pitot covers were left on then there would not be an IAS increase on takeoff roll, therefore you reject. Or was 1 or 2 pitot covers left on and 1 side had airspeed information and the other pilot did an improper crosscheck at the 100/80kt call
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Covers are fitted each turn in BNE due to a mud wasp issue.
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Originally Posted by maggot
(Post 10201111)
Covers are fitted each turn in BNE due to a mud wasp issue.
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Blocked the Runway for over an hour. Interesting to see the main gear doors dangling down. ( manual extension?). Also both main gear doors appeared damaged. Couple of Pilots standing to attention in an office somewhere, poor devils. How did everybody miss those red tapes?
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Originally Posted by By George
(Post 10201120)
Blocked the Runway for over an hour. Interesting to see the main gear doors dangling down. ( manual extension?). Also both main gear doors appeared damaged. Couple of Pilots standing to attention in an office somewhere, poor devils. How did everybody miss those red tapes?
Lots of human factors at play here by the looks of it... |
Ignoring the flight crew issues, what about the ground crew who left them installed or the pushback crew who didn't notice them? |
Apparently yellow hydraulics were lost as well resulting in no steering after landing. Hence the tug.
The pitot covers have been used at least since Etihad declared a mayday after departure a few years back with no airspeed. Nice little mud wasp nest found on inspection. Amazing how quickly they can build a nest. |
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You can see even a third cover. Makes me wonder why they did not abort. How did they check the rotation speed? Beside looking out of the window the airspeed indicator is the most watched instrument on the TO-run. At least for me. |
Mud wasps
During my time in Guam during the Vietnam war we had big problems with them, hence covers on at landing with streamers so long you couldn't miss them. Did not help with EPR probes so high EPR was panels off air pressure blow out with 8 engines it was a pain in the A##.
Long streamers don't cost much. Keep them up boys. 😁🗽😁 |
To By George: please don't offer sympathy for the "poor devils" - I'm all for forgiveness of mistakes (and learning lessons from them) but this is simply incredible - very basic error. I don't understand why the problem wasn't spotted on the ground, at least during T/O roll. Consequences could be disastrous - remember Birgenair in 1996.
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Appalling deviation from normal procedures all round and yet another nail in the coffin of MAS's already tattered reputation. Think it may be time to add them to AF as an airline I will avoid permantly.
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Originally Posted by scotneil
(Post 10201357)
Consequences could be disastrous - remember Birgenair in 1996.
For the B757/767 the CBs are: AURAL WARNING: B16 & H35 STICK SHAKER: C11 & J21 |
I bet you're all such perfect pilots who never make a mistake.
Why are you assuming it was the FOs walk around? The most 'basic' of errors are the easiest ones to make.. |
supposed to be removed an hour before departure |
What about the turkey that did the pushback-unforgivable really. Last line of defence.......hopeless! |
Who signed off tech log entry?
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Echos of the AeroPeru accident in 1996 where the static vents were covered with tape whilst the aircraft was being cleaned.
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19961002-0 At least this time everyone walked away so lessons have been learnt, with training in unreliable airspeed indication now being given. It still shouldn't have happened though. |
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