Central locking overhead lockers when taking off and landing would have stopped passengers taking their luggage down the chutes.

Hitch, there would be 2 local controllers on duty ( one for each pair of runways ) and a supervisor. The supervisor would be calling approach control to cancel ops to 07L. The two planes she sent on a missed were switched to tower before they got the message. After that the Supervisor will talk with emergency services to see what reserve equipment was available. If all emergency equipment was dispatched to the event they would prepare to terminate all operations. KLAS has multiple Emergency buildings. Normally only one is called. If the first on scene Boss thinks its needed, all are dispatched and all operations halted.

There is one thing that professional pilots will always do in an emergency, irrespective of any background issues... they will do their job. Well done guys.

chillpill

I rather suspect given the header blindpew's comment about "crew" was in reference to the LGW cabin crew operating the flight.

In any event well done to all the crew

And if said fire was in an overhead compartment and the central locking couldn't unlock it because of burnt wires etc. so the crew could get to and extinguish the fire?

I just cannot believe the numbskulls coming off the plane with hand luggage and even 'ankle bashers' in tow which could have easily damaged the slides and added to the problems.

777 Fire
 

A testimony to the training and professionalism of flight and cabin crews.
I wish I could say that about those dummies who were sliding down the shoots with their luggage in hand.
The BA 777 that crash landed in Heathrow had a problem with the Spar Fuel Valve not closing. I wonder if the same problem reoccured in this case?
Fortunately, the crew and the aircraft are all alive and well and available for scrutiny by the investigators as to why the fuel was still pouring onto this fire!

I would take my hand luggage if possible.



Wallet, phone and passport are a big deal.

Wallet and passport can fit in your pockets. Everything else is less important than lives.

With the information available so far, this looks like 'text book' handling by all the crew and airport services.

Lives, including yours are much more important!!

Close up of the damage

http://image.airlineratings.com/arti...36925359_n.jpg

Cabin baggage
 

I have been out of the industry for a little while and for me now, as a paying pax, cabin baggage certainly in Australia is of real concern. I'm astounded by the amount and size of bags pax are allowed to board with.....no questions asked. When I was in the industry, some 5 years ago, cabin bag size and weight were a big issue for the airlines.
Now that appears to have gone by the way.

Airlines say safety is their priority but allowing large, heavy bags into overhead lockers surely presents safety issues as well as longer boarding and disembarking. It looks like airlines just can't make pax understand and so are now not enforcing their own policies:ugh:

On my last 2 recent flights, it would not have been pretty if we needed to make an emergency escape.
Glad everyone got out of this one. Well done to all::D:D

Correct. Mine are in my pocket - and I keep my shoes on until we are in the air!

Very well done to the crew... A good outcome to a nasty event.

A professional job by the crew and only a pity that the cabin crew are about to right royally shafted by the company.

Writeoff, no question about it.

Flightradar24 track indicates that BA2276 stopped approx 600 metres / 1800 ft from the start of the take-off run. Wonder what that suggests in terms of when the engine failure happened, and what speed the airplane reached?

EDIT: I found the speed/alt information graph for the flight, indicating that the airplane accelerated to a top speed of approx 78 kts at 23:12 UTC, before coming to a stop at 23:13.

The track suggests a rolling take-off, as the speed stays above 0 starting from 23:03, and is approx 20 kts just before the take-off run.

Don't know how accurate FR24 is at these low speeds, though.

Hand baggage
 

The industry needs to tackle the issue of baggage and ground evacuations. The evacuation demo required during certification is (AFAIK) completed with all the overheads closed. Opening an overhead could impede the escape route for someone else, having large bags at the doorways certainly slows things up, and bags have been responsible for serious pax injuries on and around the slides.

I have been advocating central locking of overheads for several years now, as it would provide the only guaranteed means of stopping pax retrieving bags. The argument about in-flight fires is valid, which is why I would link operation to the evacuation alarm. That way, you only lock the overheads on the ground when starting an evacuation. Alternatively, you could opt for locking at the 'crew to stations' point or as part of the SOP during an emergency return when an evacuation seems probable.

Too soon to speculate about the cause, but this event and QF32 raise a question.

Jet engine cowlings have shown to be able to contain the debris in case of a compressor blade/turbine blade failure at maximum RPM (as per certification reqs), so why were these two failures uncontained ?

The last time a BA 777 needed to send the pax down the slides was at LHR a few years back; icing in the heat exchanger of the Rolls Royce engines at a very critical moment on approach.

This time General Electric engines, apparently an older type that has been modified according to B-HKD, posted at 0.249 Sept. 9 on this thread. Some contributors have suggested if the takeoff had been continued the engine fire may have been more easily contained. And as engine fires do happen now and then, will this one be investigated as thoroughly as the RR problem?

Hand luggage? What is ok to take with you, and what isn't? A ladies handbag, of indeterminate size? A 'personal item' as defined by some airlines? A laptop? A small zip bag? An IATA approved cabin bag?

The airlines require you to take on board all your valuables (they refuse liability for valuables in checked bags), your documents and your medications.

They ask you to leave these behind in an evacuation with no knowledge of if or when they will be returned to you. Obviously returning property will not be a priority after an incident.

On the other hand there is no suggestion that in this incident the selfish bar-stewards actually caused any delays, damage or other problems during the evacuation. (I am not saying this didn't happen, just that we have not learned that it did). I can't recall mention of any problems with other recent evacuations.

Is this really a problem?