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Baggage handler arrested at Paris airport

Old 30th Dec 2002, 03:02
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Man arrested at Paris airport

Police have arrested a baggage handler at Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport, after two automatic weapons, plastic explosives and a detonator were found in his car.
The man, who is reportedly of Algerian origin, was arrested late on Saturday after a tip-off from a member of the public who saw a weapon in a car boot at the airport.

Other members of the man's family have been taken in for questioning, and the man himself can be held for up to four days without charge.

Paris police have made several arrests in the past two weeks of suspected Islamic militants who, the authorities says, were planning an attack on the Russian embassy in the city.

Family arrests

The man is reportedly a 27-year-old of Algerian origin, who lives in the northern Parisian suburb of Bondy.

He has no criminal record, say police.

As a baggage handler, he has security clearance for several areas of Charles de Gaulle airport, one of Europe's busiest.

Anti-terrorist officers have been brought in, but only as observers at present.

The man's father, two brothers and a family friend were also arrested, after the man's flat was searched.

An automatic pistol, a machine gun, five pieces of plastic explosive and two detonators were found in his car, according to police.

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Old 30th Dec 2002, 07:46
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It´s a good thing that most baggage handlers/ground staff are usually NOT searched/x-rayed/turned inside out, while flight crew are....

Best wishes for the new year !
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Having flown into CDG from time to time, I believe it is fairly lax in the security department, and as such is an ideal place for would be terrorists to plan their attacks from.
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last time I went through CDG the cleaning ladies trolley was wheeled through the arch without a search, lots of places to conceal weapons, C4 etc.
She was a very nice lady though because she knew the security code for airside and kindly let us through!

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I won't reveal where I was only two days ago but as a then PAX I experienced (was the subject)a serious security breach at a major European airport (not CDG though).
Totally innocent but bloody hell there is still plenty of work to be done... Nothing worse than complacency if I may say so
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There were several Algerian incidents on French aircraft before 9/11 which were,fortunately,very badly organised.There is a huge Algerian presence in Paris and a lot of anti western feeling.Our security system is only as strong as the weakest link and,in Europe, that is quite probably CDG.
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The thing is AMEX , have you reported this flagrant breach to the authorities of that airport? I bet not. We all see lapses of security but how often to we act on them? (I'm just as guilty by the way).
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Thank you very much for all that Anti French campaign, but if I remember well, the latest skyjackers didn't board at CDG on september the 11th, neither did those responsible for the Lockerbie disaster.
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I suppose shoebombers don't count then?
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Salut Baron Rouge !

This has nothing to do with being anti French.

Filtonman correctly said that a chain is only as strong as it´s weakest link. Therefore I do not understand the complacency to fix this weakest link.

I regularly fly in and out of a French airport where ground staff are not checked and numerous reports have been filed regarding this. As Monday´s events have proven that this French ´security policy´ was an incident waiting to happen, but the authorities do not seem to care. Instead they rather focus on harrasing flight crews for possesing a nail file while having a crash axe in the cockpit.

Whether it is regarding the use of French over the radio, or this security issue, the French always seem to be bad teamplayers in a unified (?) Europe.

Maybe France should stop this "anti the rest of the world" campaign ?
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If airport authorities are sincere with security, ALL staff with restricted area airport access, should be subject to the SAME security procedures as passengers, terminal staff and aircrew when they enter these restricted areas. A byproduct may be that it will also curtail some of the pilfering and smuggling that goes on at airports.
As Robert Vesco said above, the procedures at most airports are just window dressing.
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News yesterday suggested man "framed" by relatives of his recently dead wife. From the DT(1/1):

"An airport baggage handler found with guns and explosives in his car at Charles de Gaulle airport, Paris, may not be an Islamic terrorist but the victim of a set-up arranged by his sister-in-law, French police said yesterday.

Abderazak Besseghir, 27, was arrested after a tip from a former soldier who claimed to have seen him handling a gun in the car park. But police have now held the witness for questioning.

Besseghir has denied all knowledge of weapons found in the boot of his car.

Besseghir's neighbours have told police that his sister-in-law accused him of starting a fire at his home outside Paris last summer, which killed his wife. An inquiry into the fire cleared Besseghir but the sister-in-law remained convinced that he was guilty.

Besseghir has told police he thinks a "family cabal" was bent on revenge. His father, two brothers and a family friend underwent further questioning yesterday."
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Avman, you are right it took me a little while to think the incident over so I didn't report it on the spot.
But you bet wrong because I have done it the next day... See I take that kind of things seriously.
No offence though
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Not really surprised, I took an aircraft from CDG last year and on arrival at our destination we had a untagged suitcase on board, found to be containing canabis.!!!

Allso know an F/O who had his swiss army knife confiscated, only to replace it with a large stanley knife blade and gets through the X Ray machine every day!!!!

So forget the bloody locked flight deck door and get the ground side of the operation cleaned up.
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So much for locked cockpit doors and metal detectors for flight crews if you can imagine what could happen if someone at catering would put a few drops of this stuff into the crew meals...
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From the BBC website:

Friday, 10 January, 2003, 12:33 GMT
Paris airport weapons suspect set up

An airport baggage handler who was arrested in Paris when weapons and explosives were found in his car was the victim of a set-up, police said on Friday.
The man, Abderazak Besseghir - a French national of Algerian origin - had denied knowing how the arms got into the boot of his car.

Two pistols, five cakes of plastic explosive, two detonators and a safety fuse were discovered in his car at Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airport at the end of December.

But a former Foreign Legion soldier who was a key witness against Mr Besseghir admitted on Friday that there had been a plot to frame him.

It was the result of a long-standing family feud, a BBC correspondent in Paris says.

Mr Besseghir's in-laws blamed him for the death of his late wife in a fire three years ago, his lawyer said.

Mr Besseghir, 27, had no criminal record and the firm that employed him at the airport said he had given them no cause for suspicion in the three years he had worked there.
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Now that we know the poor guy was a victim of a set-up, will we hear the thunder of backtracking footsteps from all those only too willing to believe the "Arab=Islamic terrorist=threat=Must-be-true" theory?

I thought not.....
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I was watching this thread from the beginning , so predictible ....
Taste like "jump on conlcusion"

The first day the man was arrested, he claimed it was a family conspiracy ... And the police also arrested the main witness (the foreign legion guy ) So I guess they were not totally convinced by this "amateur terrorist" scenario ( I can imagine the training in Al Quaeda camps : "Don't exhibit explosives and guns on Airport parking ....It may ring a bell" )

As far as security breach is involved, I remember having read far more cases of "journos able to board a 737 at LHR" (or elsewhere in UK) than in France .. As a matter of fact I read it on Pprune.

Security is a nightmare in CDG ? well, probably...but let's face the truth : a clever terrorist will always find a way to introduce explosives or weapon on board.. it may take time, but it's feasible, anywhere.

A last word about the Algerian terrorism we had to deal with in France, the past years.
The worst event was the hijacking of an AF Airbus by Algerian terrorists ...in Algiers, not in CDG. They forced the crew to land in Marseilles, in order to refuel before attempting to crash the plane on Paris. But that was a different issue ,since the french SWAT succesfully "neutralized" them.

I don't think we are the worst here in France
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If you care to check all the threads you will see that there is not one that refers to your comment, therefore I suggest you think twice before you put your foot in your mouth.

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