Baggage handler arrested at Paris airport
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What about the calls on his cellphone to well known Islamist militants. What's more, analysis revealed traces of the explosives in several places in the car (which means they'd been moved around and not put directly in the trunk), and in his locker in the airport (presumably in a secure area).
Despite his assertions, the second set of keys of his Peugeot was in the possession of the former car's owner, and not his in-laws.
Sounds like he got a smart lawyer.
Despite his assertions, the second set of keys of his Peugeot was in the possession of the former car's owner, and not his in-laws.
Sounds like he got a smart lawyer.
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A smart lawyer is not sufficient in France in terrorism matters, I suspect he couldn't choose his lawyer after being arrested but was given one.
As islamic terrorism is not a new problem here in France, am sure the investigators had good reason to release him.
The anti-terrorism team filed the case, and the victim is now a plaintif against his former in law family.
Just to remind you some facts : the french intelligence department warned the FBI (or CIA ? ) against possible planes Hijacking in the US (that was in summer 2001 ) .
Trace of Explosives in his locker ? well, my former experience of Chemistry analyst, reminds me that you can virtually find anything you want to find ... Molecular analysis is a bit more complex than breath testing, so many factors can affect the sampling and therefore the accuracy of the test.
Phone calls to known islamic activist ...let's wait until those facts are confirmed and proved . And even if it's true, it's not a crime.
The bagagist was never involved in any police related event (a rare case for people living around CDG
) So, I guess he would have been monitored since long if he had called "wanabe terrorist"
I don't know the nature of his relationship with his former in law family, but if it ain't terrorism, let's give him a break.
A smart lawyer is not sufficient in France in terrorism matters, I suspect he couldn't choose his lawyer after being arrested but was given one.
As islamic terrorism is not a new problem here in France, am sure the investigators had good reason to release him.
The anti-terrorism team filed the case, and the victim is now a plaintif against his former in law family.
Just to remind you some facts : the french intelligence department warned the FBI (or CIA ? ) against possible planes Hijacking in the US (that was in summer 2001 ) .
Trace of Explosives in his locker ? well, my former experience of Chemistry analyst, reminds me that you can virtually find anything you want to find ... Molecular analysis is a bit more complex than breath testing, so many factors can affect the sampling and therefore the accuracy of the test.
Phone calls to known islamic activist ...let's wait until those facts are confirmed and proved . And even if it's true, it's not a crime.
The bagagist was never involved in any police related event (a rare case for people living around CDG
) So, I guess he would have been monitored since long if he had called "wanabe terrorist"I don't know the nature of his relationship with his former in law family, but if it ain't terrorism, let's give him a break.
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It would appear that these days you just have to mention the word "terrorism" or "terrorist" and almost everybody goes of on a tangent, and regardless of the evidence, the verdict is "guilty until proven innocent".
In this case, weapons and explosives were "found" in a car in a parking lot and NOT on airside. Still most comments where to the tune of "What do you expect, it's CDG" "Security is a joke" and so on.
All of these comments were based on newspaper reports. The same newspapers that, with amazing regularity, gets hammered for being full of 'you know what' here on PPRuNe. Go figure!!!.
In this case, weapons and explosives were "found" in a car in a parking lot and NOT on airside. Still most comments where to the tune of "What do you expect, it's CDG" "Security is a joke" and so on.
All of these comments were based on newspaper reports. The same newspapers that, with amazing regularity, gets hammered for being full of 'you know what' here on PPRuNe. Go figure!!!.
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In law family of the bagage handler reckoned it was a family plot !
The ex mother in law is presently heard by french investigators. Initially denying the plot, she finally reckoned the facts.
Her Brother is actively searched by authorities, since he is thought to have provided the explosives and guns. It seems he is hiding in Algeria.
The main witness, a foreign legion soldier, also alleged he lied to the investigators.
It's not well known yet, who was the "brain" of this plot, but the Bagage handler is definitely "clean".
Well, question
Same story in USA in the afternath of Sept the 11 th , what would happen to the bloke ?
Am asking this because of the sad story of the french FA on the virgin flight, who told the crew he found a graph in the lavatories "american must die". The flight was diverted, and the FA, a witness, was soon a suspect !
2 links to figure out the story
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...threadid=75987
http://www.michaelphilippe.com/indexanglais.htm
And no, i's not anti-american oriented.
The ex mother in law is presently heard by french investigators. Initially denying the plot, she finally reckoned the facts.
Her Brother is actively searched by authorities, since he is thought to have provided the explosives and guns. It seems he is hiding in Algeria.
The main witness, a foreign legion soldier, also alleged he lied to the investigators.
It's not well known yet, who was the "brain" of this plot, but the Bagage handler is definitely "clean".
Well, question
Same story in USA in the afternath of Sept the 11 th , what would happen to the bloke ?
Am asking this because of the sad story of the french FA on the virgin flight, who told the crew he found a graph in the lavatories "american must die". The flight was diverted, and the FA, a witness, was soon a suspect !
2 links to figure out the story
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...threadid=75987
http://www.michaelphilippe.com/indexanglais.htm
And no, i's not anti-american oriented.
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So the plastic explosive traces in his locker can be found in anybody's and the in-laws went and planted two pistols on him and five cakes of explosives just to make extra sure they framed him. Why? Surely one cake of PE would have been enough. The cell phone calls were misreported.
The flight attendant topic was done to death on the last thread. Obviously he was framed and the finger prints and hand writing samples fabricated evidence, like his confession.
Not anti-US? Oh no.
The flight attendant topic was done to death on the last thread. Obviously he was framed and the finger prints and hand writing samples fabricated evidence, like his confession.
Not anti-US? Oh no.
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The "foreign legion soldier" was not from the legion, just an usual ex-soldier of paratroopers-marines... but the medias (and many people here...) tagged him as " former foreign legion soldier" to make the picture more palatable for readers.
When learning about desinformation in specific courses, you are warned against this sort of fog - it's always a pleasure to watch this.
When learning about desinformation in specific courses, you are warned against this sort of fog - it's always a pleasure to watch this.
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So the plastic explosive traces in his locker can be found in anybody's and the in-laws went and planted two pistols on him and five cakes of explosives just to make extra sure they framed him.
Did they just buy these in a local supermarket in the aisle next to the baguettes and fois gras ?
Some supermarket ! Some family !
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The Explosives and the weapons were provided by the uncle in law of the guy.
No idea were he could get this, maybe from eastern countries, shouldn't be that hard if you ask to the appropriate person, especially around Paris.
Plastic is not only used by terrorist, but also by thieves to blast secured lockers and so on.
Some contacts in Corsica would help
The Bagage handler was returned his pass and duty at CDG since.
No idea were he could get this, maybe from eastern countries, shouldn't be that hard if you ask to the appropriate person, especially around Paris.
Plastic is not only used by terrorist, but also by thieves to blast secured lockers and so on.
Some contacts in Corsica would help
The Bagage handler was returned his pass and duty at CDG since.
