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I remember well all the horrible experiences I had with those princes of darkness abusing their power. Now it's a thing of the past and I'm still flying, not in the UK or Ireland.
I will never ever fly with this airline.
I will never ever fly with this airline.
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It took sexual harassment to bring this creep down, but now I hope that a spotlight will be shined on the rest of the management setup there. The company is littered with bullying managers as these are the kind of people who rise up through the ranks in that place.
Ruthless self serving company arse lickers willing to step all over their colleagues and enforce intimidation are the types who usually become base captains/base cabin crew managers and onwards and upwards in the organisation.
Truly awful company, hopefully the chief pilot won't be the last to fall.
Ruthless self serving company arse lickers willing to step all over their colleagues and enforce intimidation are the types who usually become base captains/base cabin crew managers and onwards and upwards in the organisation.
Truly awful company, hopefully the chief pilot won't be the last to fall.
This is the Chief Pilot of one of the world's biggest airlines, and highlights an issue that is a major one with a growing number of the pilot pool. Even though I am not female I would like to see more discussion and reporting around these issues of workplace harassment which would adversely affect the employment of some of my colleagues.
And I believe it is a safety issue. These women were subject to flying with a known harasser, someone who could affect their career. What if they resisted the CP's advances and then he denied them a promotion? What if they became afraid to speak up on safety issues in his presence? What if being subject to harassment distracted them from their jobs? Lots of issues at play there.
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It took sexual harassment to bring this creep down, but now I hope that a spotlight will be shined on the rest of the management setup there. The company is littered with bullying managers as these are the kind of people who rise up through the ranks in that place.
Ruthless self serving company arse lickers willing to step all over their colleagues and enforce intimidation are the types who usually become base captains/base cabin crew managers and onwards and upwards in the organisation.
Truly awful company, hopefully the chief pilot won't be the last to fall.
Ruthless self serving company arse lickers willing to step all over their colleagues and enforce intimidation are the types who usually become base captains/base cabin crew managers and onwards and upwards in the organisation.
Truly awful company, hopefully the chief pilot won't be the last to fall.
And just to make sure, the answer is NO, NOT ACCEPTABLE.
And we would have "virtue signaled" that as well, and the same if the CP had been female. Sexual harassments is not confined to gender in any way. It is about abuse of power.
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a bad idea to rearrange the roster so as to fly with attractive female pilots.
A chief will sometimes arrange to fly with a questionable pilot, to see for himself, or herself, if the negative
report from line captains have merit, or not.
I have flown with numerous female pilots, but female attributes, or charm did not influence anything on the flight deck, none.
I was also married to a pilot. (female in case somebody wondered.)
A chief will sometimes arrange to fly with a questionable pilot, to see for himself, or herself, if the negative
report from line captains have merit, or not.
I have flown with numerous female pilots, but female attributes, or charm did not influence anything on the flight deck, none.
I was also married to a pilot. (female in case somebody wondered.)
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Why is it that the perpetrators of such behaviour don't really get that what they are doing is both threatening and offensive to others? To have such an imbalance between strong sexual drive and an absence of empathy with a victim is something that is beyond the understanding of most people. Is this simply another manifestation of bullying or an indication that the perpetrator lies on the spectrum between normality and Psychopathy. Similar cases appear often manifested in well-qualified, ambitious, high achieving individuals who appear to give little thought to the consequences of their actions.
I have seen a willingness to manipulate others in pursuit of one's ambitions quite frequently amongst airline managers..... It does make me wonder?
I have seen a willingness to manipulate others in pursuit of one's ambitions quite frequently amongst airline managers..... It does make me wonder?
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Well, as with many things in life, love, and flying, there are matters of degree.
The misconduct here was egregious in its manipulative character. It isn't a case - as far as I have seen reported - of rape, or attempted rape or sexual assault of any type in a physical sense. But my view (based on having advised clients in many cases akin to this fact pattern, and conducted many client organization training programs as outside legal counsel) is that in this specific instance, the egregious conduct is just as severe as physical conduct -- why?
Because in this day and age this misconduct is the exact opposite, or nearly the exact opposite, of what a Chief Pilot ought to be doing with regard to less senior (and correct me if I'm mistaken, significantly less senior in this matter) women aviators seeking to conduct their careers. That is, being a resource to aid in their progressing in proficiency, developing and sharpening flying instincts, rolling up flight hours. Instead of mentoring, he was not only abusing the authority of his position of employment and official role, but doing so in a way deliberately calculated to restrain, limit, or otherwise retard or delay these pilots' career progression.
What I'm driving at is that I'm willing to be called a bit naive for saying that I believe 100 percent of these women aviators wanted to fly airline aircraft and to do so utterly and solely professionally, with no invitation, express, implied, located by divining rod or otherwise perceived, to open their personal lives (romance, relationship, intimacy) to anyone simply because they happen to work for the company. The misconduct resulted in a kind of opportunity cost forced upon them. And it's especially inexcusable precisely because as CP this person should have been seeking constantly to provide, or to suggest at least, opportunities instead for these women aviators to enhance their careers. A pathetic, and sad, story, alas.
The misconduct here was egregious in its manipulative character. It isn't a case - as far as I have seen reported - of rape, or attempted rape or sexual assault of any type in a physical sense. But my view (based on having advised clients in many cases akin to this fact pattern, and conducted many client organization training programs as outside legal counsel) is that in this specific instance, the egregious conduct is just as severe as physical conduct -- why?
Because in this day and age this misconduct is the exact opposite, or nearly the exact opposite, of what a Chief Pilot ought to be doing with regard to less senior (and correct me if I'm mistaken, significantly less senior in this matter) women aviators seeking to conduct their careers. That is, being a resource to aid in their progressing in proficiency, developing and sharpening flying instincts, rolling up flight hours. Instead of mentoring, he was not only abusing the authority of his position of employment and official role, but doing so in a way deliberately calculated to restrain, limit, or otherwise retard or delay these pilots' career progression.
What I'm driving at is that I'm willing to be called a bit naive for saying that I believe 100 percent of these women aviators wanted to fly airline aircraft and to do so utterly and solely professionally, with no invitation, express, implied, located by divining rod or otherwise perceived, to open their personal lives (romance, relationship, intimacy) to anyone simply because they happen to work for the company. The misconduct resulted in a kind of opportunity cost forced upon them. And it's especially inexcusable precisely because as CP this person should have been seeking constantly to provide, or to suggest at least, opportunities instead for these women aviators to enhance their careers. A pathetic, and sad, story, alas.
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MissChief, you need to decide on which side of the fence you wish to walk on. In this post First ever all female Hajj flight makes history you complained that a middle eastern country were or are executing Sri Lankan maids/slaves and how outrageous it was. Yet on this post your commenting "is this really so important" that an alleged "repeat inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour towards a number of female pilots" abuser was terminated.
