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Masteroftheplane 14th Jun 2023 09:03

Ryanair chief pilot fired
 
Yesterday evening RYANAIR DAC chief pilot was fired with immediate effect, the decision follows an investigation which identified a pattern of repeated "innapropiate and unacceptable behaviour towards a number of female pilots"...

Timmy Tomkins 14th Jun 2023 09:51

I suppose it had to hit the airline world sooner or later

BobsCousin 14th Jun 2023 10:52

I'm sure he's not the first to do this, but it's good to see people feel empowered enough to come forward now and report this kind of behaviour.

A big congratulations to the people who stood up against this vile being (assuming the allegations are true, which I'm sure they are).

Ruddyrum 14th Jun 2023 10:55

Just goes to show what sort of outfit it is, when you have individuals like that at the top.

I sincerely hope the authorities use this as an opportunity to take a good look at Ryanair and the questionable Learjet operation they run.

lfc84 14th Jun 2023 12:22

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...al-harassment/

rotorwills 14th Jun 2023 12:29

Word from one insider is he was arrested last Friday for questioning. I am sure we are into a Weinstein type of situation

Right20deg 14th Jun 2023 12:47

This is very bad. That it has come to someone in such a leadership position over a huge and diverse workforce is shocking. I have never heard of anything like this in 40 years in harness.

Brian Pern 14th Jun 2023 12:51

According to The Telegraph he has been altering rosters of young Female Pilots for 18 months so he could get close to them and no one from the company every suspected anything........I call bull...

MechEngr 14th Jun 2023 12:58


I have never heard of anything like this in 40 years in harness.
A lot of the reason for that is the likelihood anyone saying any such thing in the past feared being blackballed from the industry and a general acceptance that it was acceptable. In my career I started in offices where pinup calendars were widespread. Definitely a boys club. I think now anyone trying it would get a single warning if not a march to HR to get their separation papers.

Globally Challenged 14th Jun 2023 13:00

This thread won’t hang around long. They seem to be fairly effective in keeping mud off this website

hobbit1983 14th Jun 2023 13:00


Originally Posted by Globally Challenged (Post 11450898)
This thread won’t hang around long. They seem to be fairly effective in keeping mud off this website

Isn't it in the UK national press already?

rotorwills 14th Jun 2023 13:48


Originally Posted by Globally Challenged (Post 11450898)
This thread won’t hang around long. They seem to be fairly effective in keeping mud off this website


I think this situation they find themselves in RyanAir will have to be extremely careful in trying to moderate this situation. It’s a PR nightmare and the best they can hope for will be a very quick resolution. However that’s seems to be unlikely as this will attract massive media attention and as we have seen inappropriate actions by senior management with regards to possible career enhancement for favours will be a hot topic. If criminal charges occur then it will be more than a storm. Turbulence can be guaranteed.

RichardJones 14th Jun 2023 18:03

It just upsets me to hear of people, using their position to take advantage of young women. No, means no. A second time a no its harassment.
At least the outfit set a good example and got rid of him.
Is this sort of behaviour not a criminal offence? If not, why not?

travelpro 14th Jun 2023 18:25

Harassment doesn't just cover "sexual". There is a toxic management style and it should open up many other scenarios that will allow Cabin crew and Flight deck crew to talk up about incidents where they have felt "Harassed" by management.
Filing fatigue reports, not wanting to go into discretion, reporting unfit for duty simple things that I'm aware crews feel like they will be black balled for doing so. I know some crews on the LearJ operation and the stories from there would raise a lot of questions. The management need to change their attitude, and sharpish now that this has surfaced.

Klimax 14th Jun 2023 18:42

What a predator! He is being shamed in living daylight by photos and name - kudos to those who spoke up - real woMEN!

meleagertoo 14th Jun 2023 19:00

As a matter of interest what was his career path/background?
Was he civvy trained or ex AAC?

Right20deg 14th Jun 2023 19:13


Originally Posted by MechEngr (Post 11450896)
A lot of the reason for that is the likelihood anyone saying any such thing in the past feared being blackballed from the industry and a general acceptance that it was acceptable. In my career I started in offices where pinup calendars were widespread. Definitely a boys club. I think now anyone trying it would get a single warning if not a march to HR to get their separation papers.

I think that you make good points. But a gross misuse of his position. Idiotic.

The Nr Fairy 14th Jun 2023 20:41


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11451053)
As a matter of interest what was his career path/background?
Was he civvy trained or ex AAC?

That makes f**k all difference.Still wrong.

BFSGrad 14th Jun 2023 21:55


Originally Posted by RichardJones (Post 11451023)
Is this sort of behaviour not a criminal offence? If not, why not?

Based on what’s been reported so far, what would be considered criminal activity under Irish law? If the same happened in the U.S., it would be subject to administrative and civil penalty.

The bigger PR nightmare for Ryanair may be trying to provide a plausible explanation for how this activity continued undetected for 18 months.

From the Irish Sun:

The senior airline source added: “No sexual acts came up in the investigation and there has been no police or Gardai investigation as yet.

"But Ryanair is understood to have told the women affected that if they wanted to pursue anything further with authorities they had the airline's full support."

A Dublin-based Irish Gardai source said there was currently no record of any complaints having been made relating to the alleged incidents.

Ryanair Sacks Chief Pilot


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