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China Eastern 737-800 MU5735 accident March 2022

Old 16th Jun 2022, 16:22
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Surprising there is no English language translation of the Chinese update 10th June, despite it basically being no information: 民航局介绍“3·21”东航MU5735航空器飞行事故最新进展 (yicai.com)

‎At the meeting, Dong Zhiyi, deputy director of the Civil Aviation Administration of China, said that after the "3.21" China Eastern Airlines MU5735 aircraft flight accident, in accordance with the relevant laws and regulations of China and the relevant provisions of the Convention on International Civil Aviation, the Civil Aviation Administration of China launched the technical investigation of the accident, and on April 20, the preliminary report and information circular of the accident investigation were announced to the public. At present, the accident investigation department is strictly following the investigation procedures and is still continuing to carry out in-depth wreckage and data evidence inspection, flight data analysis, experimental verification and other related work. Subsequently, with the advancement of the investigation work, the Civil Aviation Administration will release the progress and relevant information of the technical investigation of the accident in a timely and accurate manner in accordance with laws and regulations.‎ - Google Translate

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"Surprising there is no English language translation of the Chinese update 10th June, despite ..."

The consequence of not giving an english translation next to the national language (either an official ICAO language or not) is that thousands of professionals in the aerospace community are forced to get their own translations or give up. This will only lead to confusion, next to the normal interpretation discussions that you will already have with a formal translation. Making your own translations can be very time consuming, introduces translation and (serious) interpretation errors, and will reduce the time available for other safety work. I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that this is a systemic safety weakness in the global system.

A good translation has access to the actual investigation.



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Old 23rd Jul 2022, 13:02
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Is there anything else expected on this, or are we essentially finished with this event except for the eventual formal report? Deliberate act, nothing more to learn?
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Old 23rd Jul 2022, 23:30
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Originally Posted by Lake1952 View Post
Is there anything else expected on this, or are we essentially finished with this event except for the eventual formal report? Deliberate act, nothing more to learn?
China has promised full compliance with international law. Which means a proper and good report. So prelim after 30 days with factual information, annual updates with more factual information and preliminary analysis … And a final complete report with full analysis, conclusions and recommendations. Until that sequence finishes everything is open. So who said it was a deliberate act? No report or a flimsy report would constitute a serious loss of face I am told.
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Originally Posted by Lake1952 View Post
Is there anything else expected on this, or are we essentially finished with this event except for the eventual formal report? Deliberate act, nothing more to learn?
I can only hope that you are never in command of a passenger aircraft !
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 08:21
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Originally Posted by phylosocopter View Post
I can only hope that you are never in command of a passenger aircraft !
Lol; good to see the classic "I don't like your viewpoint on the internet so you're basically a danger to aviation and others"

From where I sit in China the rumour is that the entire investigation so far has been thrown out the window as the results don't make the party happy so the entire investigation is being restarted with fresh, keen faces eager to please.
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 03:10
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Indeed, I haven't a clue as to where phylocopter is coming from with that remark. I asked a simple question after noting over a month without so much as a mention of this accident.
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Old 29th Jul 2022, 04:03
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Originally Posted by Boeingdriver999 View Post
Lol; good to see the classic "I don't like your viewpoint on the internet so you're basically a danger to aviation and others"

From where I sit in China the rumour is that the entire investigation so far has been thrown out the window as the results don't make the party happy so the entire investigation is being restarted with fresh, keen faces eager to please.
The NTSB has looked at the recorders. Someone who isn’t connected to the Chinese government knows what happened. If the Chinese aren’t telling the truth about the incident I’m sure the information will be “unofficially” leaked to the press in some fashion.
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Originally Posted by A0283 View Post
China has promised full compliance with international law. Which means a proper and good report. So prelim after 30 days with factual information, annual updates with more factual information and preliminary analysis … And a final complete report with full analysis, conclusions and recommendations. Until that sequence finishes everything is open. So who said it was a deliberate act? No report or a flimsy report would constitute a serious loss of face I am told.
No requirement for the various reports to be made public, they only need to submit to icao. That is what happened to the prelim report.
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The NTSB has looked at the recorders. Someone who isn’t connected to the Chinese government knows what happened. If the Chinese aren’t telling the truth about the incident I’m sure the information will be “unofficially” leaked to the press in some fashion.
China knows this, but there is a timing problem. Later this year the 20th Congress of the Chinese Communist Party is to be held, where it is expected that Xi will be elected to the 3rd term, breaking serious party and political precedents and going against considerable internal party opposition. Negative news will not be released ahead of the party congress to avoid marring the occasion.
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No requirement for the various reports to be made public, they only need to submit to icao.
Huh? Where does this come from?
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