Ukraine and associated airspace
All Aeroflot flights to the United Kingdom have been canceled for now. I'm not a fan of Boris Johnson, but his decision was right and well timed, the Russian carrier is banned there. Now... what about the rest of the world? Nobody wants to take any decisive steps in this regard?
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All Aeroflot flights to the United Kingdom have been canceled for now. I'm not a fan of Boris Johnson, but his decision was right and well timed, the Russian carrier is banned there. Now... what about the rest of the world? Nobody wants to take any decisive steps in this regard?
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Let's not forget that Putin's henchmen shot down a civil airliner over Donbas, the Malaysian B777-200, MI-17. The missile was supplied by Russia, and the operation was supported by Russians. Why any airline would consider it reasonable to overfly Russia is lost upon me. Consider it akin to flying overhead North Korea. Belarus also recently conducted state-sponsored piracy, which is in fact an act of war, and the rest of NATO just sat back and went tut tut.
Today, a ballistic conventional warhead missile was launched against Ukraine, from Belarus, so the word of Alexi Grigoryevich Lukashenko has the same value as Putin. "we are withdrawing..." yeah, right comrade.
Today, a ballistic conventional warhead missile was launched against Ukraine, from Belarus, so the word of Alexi Grigoryevich Lukashenko has the same value as Putin. "we are withdrawing..." yeah, right comrade.
Will that apply to Brit crews on EK et al?
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Let’s keep this thread on topic with discussion of the airspace and events in the Ukraine, please.
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Russia bans British airlines from its airspace
It is still noticeable that not all Eu Countries have banned Russian aircraft from their airspace,ie Estonia,Latvia Lithuania,Poland Germany.Kalingrad airspace should be `blockaded as well....Seems the EU speaks with `forked tongue`....
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ICAO Council Condemnation - Press Release from ICAO
MONTRÉAL, 25 February 2022 – The 36 States composing the ICAO Council discussed today the situation unfolding in Ukraine, during a scheduled meeting of the ICAO Governing Body’s 225th Session.
A representative of Ukraine also participated in the Council meeting on the basis of the State’s stake in the situation.
The topic was considered by the Council on the basis of an oral statement delivered by the President of the Council, Salvatore Sciacchitano, together with a presentation from ICAO Secretary General, Juan Carlos Salazar, which updated Representatives on the operational aviation context.
Council States condemned the violation of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of a United Nations Member State, including its airspace, as being inconsistent with the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and Article 1 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation (Chicago Convention).
The Council also expressed grave concerns on the latest developments in Ukraine, and solidarity with its people, in direct alignment with the sentiments expressed by the United Nations Secretary General in his statements to the UN General Assembly on 23 and 24 February 2022. States representatives also recalled the preamble to the Convention on International Civil Aviation (Chicago Convention), which identifies the need to avoid friction and instead promote cooperation and friendship among nations and peoples, on which the peace of the world depends.
The Council further underscored the paramount importance of preserving the safety and security of international civil aviation and the related obligations of Member States, and in this context, urged the Russian Federation to cease its unlawful activities to ensure the safety and security of civil aviation in all affected areas, and to respect its obligations under the Chicago Convention as well as other relevant international air law treaties. It called upon all concerned parties to seek to resolve the crisis through peaceful dialogue and diplomatic channels.
The Council also recalled with deep sorrow the human suffering that was caused as a result of the downing of flight MH17 in the east of Ukraine on 17 July 2014, and underlined that such a tragedy should never happen again.
In the same context the Council reconfirmed its support to the “Safer Skies” initiative led by Canada relating to improving international efforts to safeguard civilian flight operations over or in the vicinity of conflict zones.
The Council requested the Secretariat to continue to monitor the situation in Ukraine and provide support to the States involved.
A representative of Ukraine also participated in the Council meeting on the basis of the State’s stake in the situation.
The topic was considered by the Council on the basis of an oral statement delivered by the President of the Council, Salvatore Sciacchitano, together with a presentation from ICAO Secretary General, Juan Carlos Salazar, which updated Representatives on the operational aviation context.
Council States condemned the violation of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of a United Nations Member State, including its airspace, as being inconsistent with the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and Article 1 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation (Chicago Convention).
The Council also expressed grave concerns on the latest developments in Ukraine, and solidarity with its people, in direct alignment with the sentiments expressed by the United Nations Secretary General in his statements to the UN General Assembly on 23 and 24 February 2022. States representatives also recalled the preamble to the Convention on International Civil Aviation (Chicago Convention), which identifies the need to avoid friction and instead promote cooperation and friendship among nations and peoples, on which the peace of the world depends.
The Council further underscored the paramount importance of preserving the safety and security of international civil aviation and the related obligations of Member States, and in this context, urged the Russian Federation to cease its unlawful activities to ensure the safety and security of civil aviation in all affected areas, and to respect its obligations under the Chicago Convention as well as other relevant international air law treaties. It called upon all concerned parties to seek to resolve the crisis through peaceful dialogue and diplomatic channels.
The Council also recalled with deep sorrow the human suffering that was caused as a result of the downing of flight MH17 in the east of Ukraine on 17 July 2014, and underlined that such a tragedy should never happen again.
In the same context the Council reconfirmed its support to the “Safer Skies” initiative led by Canada relating to improving international efforts to safeguard civilian flight operations over or in the vicinity of conflict zones.
The Council requested the Secretariat to continue to monitor the situation in Ukraine and provide support to the States involved.
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for the AF and LH they simply are coming back home.. For the QF it is more arguable., What they do in the next days will be the interesting part to watch, as the old polar route is controlled by the 3 Siberian FIRS ( Murmansk, Krasnoyarsk and Magadan) but being international airspace delegated by ICAO in theory the Russians cannot refuse its use.. in theory that is .
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I read that Poland closed their airspace to Russian flights.
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