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Originally Posted by Ian W
This is explained via the link below
#FlattenTheCurve
The idea is that reducing the peak load on the health services they will not break down.
#FlattenTheCurve
The idea is that reducing the peak load on the health services they will not break down.
Shame they had to devalue the message with the stupid comment that "it's just like a cold or flu".
Ireland exempt....I expect that to change obviously, but if anything other countries should be banning US flights, there's been virtually no testing in the States, they have no idea where it is in reality, there'll be an explosion over there in the coming weeks, and given the appalling cost of healthcare and testing, there'll be thousands of people with it not reporting.
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Originally Posted by BRE
Except that we can enter the UK with our ID cards which physically look just like driver's licences or credit cards. Hard to stamp.
"Italian passport Sir? Step this way Sir."
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Travel to US.
Without a valid ESTA , visa, or Canadian passport you are not permitted to board an aircraft to the US.
So the Border agency have little or no problem in restricting travel from designated areas.
Could be I am oversimplifying but that is my understanding of the rules.
Canada has similar pre travel documentation requirements and if you intend to enter the US from a major Canadian airport
you have to pre clear US customs and immigration in Canada..
So the Border agency have little or no problem in restricting travel from designated areas.
Could be I am oversimplifying but that is my understanding of the rules.
Canada has similar pre travel documentation requirements and if you intend to enter the US from a major Canadian airport
you have to pre clear US customs and immigration in Canada..
Originally Posted by procede
As a lot of widebodies will need to be parked, airport congestion is going to be a whole different problem.
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Originally Posted by alfaman
According to your own map, number 9 on the hit parade - fewer than: Italy, France, Germany, Norway, Switzerland, Denmark, the Netherlands, & Sweden, and a third of the number known in the US...
Number 15 in the world
Numer 9 in EU (27 contries)
I confirm, one of the most infected in the world and in Europe.
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Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot
Its meant to be a stupid comment hes making: its an animated GIF illustrating the effects of different attitudes to the disease, but that doesnt show up in the version as quoted.
Originally Posted by zoigberg
The virus is here. On the island already. Wont make a jot of difference
Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc
And in two weeks Cheltenham attendees will fill your hospitals to bursting. Utter stupidity them going ahead with that.
We're told that transmission of the virus is related to your proximity to a carrier, so common sense would suggest that it's less likely in the open air than in confined spaces.
That's supported by the fact that countries such as Austria and France are banning smaller indoor gatherings than outdoor ones.
What would the Cheltenham attendees be doing, and where, if they weren't at the meeting ? Would they then be more or less at risk ?
Originally Posted by DieselOx
This is a supremely stupid action. The virus is already here.
Whatever, they'll figure that out in a couple weeks.
Anyone questioning why they did this? Sheer incompetence, nothing else.
Whatever, they'll figure that out in a couple weeks.
Anyone questioning why they did this? Sheer incompetence, nothing else.
Read these articles and weep.
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US is not the only country shutting down borders. It seems Kuwait has & India has also done a 30 day ban of all foreigners as well as permanent residents who were out of the country at that time.
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Maybe. Maybe not.
We're told that transmission of the virus is related to your proximity to a carrier, so common sense would suggest that it's less likely in the open air than in confined spaces.
That's supported by the fact that countries such as Austria and France are banning smaller indoor gatherings than outdoor ones.
What would the Cheltenham attendees be doing, and where, if they weren't at the meeting ? Would they then be more or less at risk ?
We're told that transmission of the virus is related to your proximity to a carrier, so common sense would suggest that it's less likely in the open air than in confined spaces.
That's supported by the fact that countries such as Austria and France are banning smaller indoor gatherings than outdoor ones.
What would the Cheltenham attendees be doing, and where, if they weren't at the meeting ? Would they then be more or less at risk ?
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Austria has closed ski resorts from Sunday for the rest of the season and you cannot get much more outdoors than that. Having said that the first person I actually know, who tested positive and has had symptoms, picked it up last weekend on a ski trip with family friends, one of whom apparently got it on a business trip.
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Originally Posted by Ian W
This is explained via the link below
#FlattenTheCurve
The idea is that reducing the peak load on the health services they will not break down.
#FlattenTheCurve
The idea is that reducing the peak load on the health services they will not break down.
" but the W.H.O. has repeatedly warned that international [travel] bans can block needed resources, or delay aid and technical support. Such restrictions are justified only at the beginning of an outbreak to buy nations time to prepare, the agency said. Beyond that, they are more likely to cause significant economic and social harm."
I stand by my statement that the ban is a supremely stupid action. We need to listen to the actual experts if we want a half a chance. We are way past the point where containment mode will do anything. All we can do now is mitigate, but the US is still trying to contain. Idiotic.
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Lufthansa will seek government assistance, according to the Handelsblatt, the German business paper.
https://www.handelsblatt.com/unterne.../25642214.html
They are probably just trying to be first in line, it will be a very long list of applicants.
https://www.handelsblatt.com/unterne.../25642214.html
They are probably just trying to be first in line, it will be a very long list of applicants.
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Lufty talked very openly about applying for short work (Kurzarbeit) grants from the government already weeks ago. Of course they want to be the first to apply for government grants, they are still seen by many in the government as the nationalized local airline, so they will get pretty much everything they want until someone complains to the EU commission.
