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Trump to suspend all travel from Europe to U.S. for 30 days amid coronavirus pandemic
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/corona...-ban-1.5494748
How does this work? Allowing travel from the UK surely nullifies the whole 30 day ban as Europeans can move into the UK without getting passports stamped and are then free to go to the USA from there? What confuses me is that the USA seems to be a hotspot of uncontrolled spread, the most recent cases in Australia are ALL people who traveled from the USA so WHY no travel ban on travel from the USA.
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It has to be a huge loophole. They’re also saying that US citizens and permanent residents are going to be allowed to return home. Thing is though that cargo is subject to the same restrictions so non UK airlines, and US airlines in routes other than UK, are going to want to suspend flights - how are these people going to return? CNN were just saying maybe there’ll be evac flights like China did, with the people going into immediate 14 day quarantine - my thinking is that’s what they’re saying without actually saying it yet.
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The ban only applies to the Schengen area. A proclamation to that effect has been issued:
https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject...nts-1842280740
https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject...nts-1842280740
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I would imagine that the UK will now have to stamp the passports of visitors from Schengen countries. Otherwise they will have no way to prove to the US authorities that they left Schengen at least 14 days prior.
And it does not apply to cargo.
And it does not apply to cargo.
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It has to be a huge loophole. They’re also saying that US citizens and permanent residents are going to be allowed to return home. Thing is though that cargo is subject to the same restrictions so non UK airlines, and US airlines in routes other than UK, are going to want to suspend flights - how are these people going to return? CNN were just saying maybe there’ll be evac flights like China did, with the people going into immediate 14 day quarantine - my thinking is that’s what they’re saying without actually saying it yet.
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Ban only for Non-US Residents, Citizens
This is being further clarified now. Trump should have said the ban is for non US citizens and residents and immediate families.
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By my understanding it is not based on nationality but where you have been in the past 14 days. For example If you are Canadian but have been in France earlier this week you can not enter. If you are French but have been traveling through New Zealand for the past month you can enter.
Mr. Trump imposed a 30-day ban on foreigners who have been in the 26 countries that make up the European Union’s Schengen Area in the previous two weeks.
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By my understanding it is not based on nationality but where you have been in the past 14 days. For example If you are Canadian but have been in France earlier this week you can not enter. If you are french buy have been traveling through new Zealand for the past month you can enter.
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https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/...l-proclamation
Homeland Security Acting Secretary Chad F. Wolf’s Statement on Presidential Proclamation To Protect the Homeland from Travel-Related Coronavirus Spread
Release Date: March 11, 2020
(WASHINGTON) Today President Donald J. Trump signed a Presidential Proclamation, which suspends the entry of most foreign nationals who have been in certain European countries at any point during the 14 days prior to their scheduled arrival to the United States. These countries, known as the Schengen Area, include: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. This does not apply to legal permanent residents, (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens, and other individuals who are identified in the proclamation.
Statement from DHS Acting Secretary Chad F. Wolf:
“Protecting the American people from threats to their safety is the most important job of the President of the United States. The actions President Trump is taking to deny entry to foreign nationals who have been in affected areas will keep Americans safe and save American lives. I applaud the president for making this tough but necessary decision. While these new travel restrictions will be disruptive to some travelers, this decisive action is needed to protect the American public from further exposure to the potentially deadly coronavirus.
“In January and February, the Administration issued similar travel restrictions on individuals who had been in China and Iran. That action proved to be effective in slowing the spread of the virus to the U.S., while public health officials prepared. In the next 48 hours, in the interest of public health, I intend to issue a supplemental Notice of Arrivals Restriction requiring U.S. passengers that have been in the Schengen Area to travel through select airports where the U.S. Government has implemented enhanced screening procedures.”
Homeland Security Acting Secretary Chad F. Wolf’s Statement on Presidential Proclamation To Protect the Homeland from Travel-Related Coronavirus Spread
Release Date: March 11, 2020
(WASHINGTON) Today President Donald J. Trump signed a Presidential Proclamation, which suspends the entry of most foreign nationals who have been in certain European countries at any point during the 14 days prior to their scheduled arrival to the United States. These countries, known as the Schengen Area, include: Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland. This does not apply to legal permanent residents, (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens, and other individuals who are identified in the proclamation.
Statement from DHS Acting Secretary Chad F. Wolf:
“Protecting the American people from threats to their safety is the most important job of the President of the United States. The actions President Trump is taking to deny entry to foreign nationals who have been in affected areas will keep Americans safe and save American lives. I applaud the president for making this tough but necessary decision. While these new travel restrictions will be disruptive to some travelers, this decisive action is needed to protect the American public from further exposure to the potentially deadly coronavirus.
“In January and February, the Administration issued similar travel restrictions on individuals who had been in China and Iran. That action proved to be effective in slowing the spread of the virus to the U.S., while public health officials prepared. In the next 48 hours, in the interest of public health, I intend to issue a supplemental Notice of Arrivals Restriction requiring U.S. passengers that have been in the Schengen Area to travel through select airports where the U.S. Government has implemented enhanced screening procedures.”
Well since there currently there is no wall between the US and Canada, I guess folks from all countries, will be able to fly into Canada and then cross into the US by Rail , Road and walking. Perhaps a little like how the refugees have been entering Canada for the past few years fleeing from the US.
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Well since there currently there is no wall between the US and Canada, I guess folks from all countries, will be able to fly into Canada and then cross into the US by Rail , Road and walking. Perhaps a little like how the refugees have been entering Canada for the past few years fleeing from the US.
Last edited by marchino61; 12th Mar 2020 at 04:42. Reason: Corrected typo
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This is a supremely stupid action. The virus is already here.
Whatever, they'll figure that out in a couple weeks.
Anyone questioning why they did this? Sheer incompetence, nothing else.
Whatever, they'll figure that out in a couple weeks.
Anyone questioning why they did this? Sheer incompetence, nothing else.
